UA Temporarily Grounds Boeing 772 (PW Power); returning to service: late May 2022
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Wow, I'm headed EWR-SFO-OGG on Tues and BOTH of my flights were impacted, fortunately with no downsides (if it holds). EWR-SFO goes from 777 Polaris to 767 Polaris and SFO-OGG gets the 777 Polaris that is being ferried out to Maui tomorrow (no change in aircraft type, but lucked out in timing that it will be on rotation in time for my flight). Fingers crossed.
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And this engine has been one of the safest engines ever. One might assume that the fact that there was another similar engine incident on the same day (in EU) with the similar engine type surely influenced the FAA decision.
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If it's something that an inspection can turn up, probably a matter of weeks, if that. If a fix requires any real changes that would need to be designed, fabricated, and tested, I'd expect PW, Boeing, and/or insurance to just pay out the fair market value (prior to yesterday, of course ) for the remaining airframes and the planes wouldn't fly revenue service again.
These planes are mostly 20+ years old. With only 69 in service at the moment and what will likely be a depressed 2nd hand market due to COVID removing demand for the foreseeable future, I'd expect those could be bought in total for a billion USD or so. The 59 stored probably even less per frame. I don't think there are a ton of ER models in there, but if they make up more than I'm thinking, probably a bit more, but not considerably more.
These planes are mostly 20+ years old. With only 69 in service at the moment and what will likely be a depressed 2nd hand market due to COVID removing demand for the foreseeable future, I'd expect those could be bought in total for a billion USD or so. The 59 stored probably even less per frame. I don't think there are a ton of ER models in there, but if they make up more than I'm thinking, probably a bit more, but not considerably more.
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You can see the entire 772 fleet here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...et=true#gid=12
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...et=true#gid=12
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Some of the PW’s are Polaris and PP so I hope it is just stepped up inspection and not a permanent grounding. The more PP/Polaris options the better.
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Focus on the positive, you had a nice visit on Maui. This isn't an Ugh moment, but a when do I come back to Maui moment. I barely sleep on this flight, and while true Polaris would be great, the 752's aren't that bad IMO.
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hmmmm what to do
I’m booked on tomorrow’s HNL-SFO 372 (in F) which has been swapped to a 788 Polaris and delayed by 2 hours.
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
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I’m booked on tomorrow’s HNL-SFO 372 (in F) which has been swapped to a 788 Polaris and delayed by 2 hours.
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
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I’m booked on tomorrow’s HNL-SFO 372 (in F) which has been swapped to a 788 Polaris and delayed by 2 hours.
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
Now scheduled to land and have me miss my connection to SBA by 10 mins...
With UA’s leaned back schedule into SBA and tomorrow nights HNL-SFO red eye cancelled in not sure what to do...
The soonest i can get into SBA if i reschedule will be Wednesday midday.
If i fly on 372 tomorrow will they put me up when I misconnect? There is always the good chance we catch tailwind and get in with just enough time for me to catch the SBA leg...?
If your plane is fast, you could try your luck with SDC once you're at SFO. But assuming you want to get into SBA the quickest, your best bet is to reroute, or if no UA options are good for you, could try to invoke rule 240.
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mhmm tomorrow nights LAX bound red-eye is is a 773 which would be nice but i’d still get to SBA at the same time as if i go via SFO and overnight.
trying to steer clear of the L.A. area, although the covid intensity has cooled considerably. Also trying to steer clear of a bus.. >_>
Mahalo for the advice, as of now the SBA leg is still there. I bought the F ticket to travel in a lie-flat and to distance BUT i do want to get where i’m going.
trying to steer clear of the L.A. area, although the covid intensity has cooled considerably. Also trying to steer clear of a bus.. >_>
Since your itin already says miss connection by 10 minutes then it's an illegal connection. I think UA will reschedule you automatically or when you check in, either way I think it's highly unlikely you will still have the original SFO-SBA on your ticket by the time you leave HNL. I doubt they'll put you up in a hotel in that case.
If your plane is fast, you could try your luck with SDC once you're at SFO. But assuming you want to get into SBA the quickest, your best bet is to reroute, or if no UA options are good for you, could try to invoke rule 240.
If your plane is fast, you could try your luck with SDC once you're at SFO. But assuming you want to get into SBA the quickest, your best bet is to reroute, or if no UA options are good for you, could try to invoke rule 240.
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UA 1580 OGG-SFO now delayed to 2:50p departure - 5 hour delay, but at least they keep the 772!