Aug 3, 2019, 1:19 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
2019 GS Timeline:
- First requalification notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
- First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
- Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
- Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
- First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
If you have received notification about your 2020 GS status, please post in
Global Services 2020 Notifications (ONLY) -- "no discussion" (and as title suggests, this is just for notifications, use this thread for discussions / queries
and
Form Link to collect this years qualification (or rejection) information
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1F...rm?usp=sf_link
You can view the results: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
Last year's thread
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
GS Qualifying for 2020 Discussion / Questions
Apr 6, 2020, 6:09 pm
#1126
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
I had an email exchange with GS today where I suggested "say something" to the current GS members even if the something is -- "we don't know what we're going to do; please be patient".
Their reply to my email was only "We plan on providing more information on the 2021 Global Services program later in the year."
Their reply to my email was only "We plan on providing more information on the 2021 Global Services program later in the year."
Apr 6, 2020, 6:34 pm
#1127
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
I have a pal who says Kirby plans to use this crisis to eliminate the GS program. Plausible?
Apr 6, 2020, 6:34 pm
#1128
Join Date: Nov 2019
Programs: United Global Services
Posts: 54
All of this is very frustrating. I will not soon forget the feeling of UA granting better concessions (and timelier communication) to Premier Silvers than to GS.
Please write to UA if you are similarly frustrated. We need to speak up.
Please write to UA if you are similarly frustrated. We need to speak up.
Apr 6, 2020, 6:35 pm
#1129
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Between AUS, EWR, and YTO In a little twisty maze of airline seats, all alike.. but I wanna go home with the armadillo
Programs: CO, NW, & UA forum moderator emeritus
Posts: 35,432
t at all.
Apr 6, 2020, 6:43 pm
#1130
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,858
Apr 6, 2020, 6:47 pm
#1131
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
At least he wouldn’t be copying Delta. A+ for boldness, D- for competence
Apr 6, 2020, 7:28 pm
#1132
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
Apr 6, 2020, 7:30 pm
#1133
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
Apr 6, 2020, 7:32 pm
#1134
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Plat 1.997MM, Hyatt Discoverist, Marriott Plat/LT Gold, Hilton Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 66,858
Apr 6, 2020, 8:27 pm
#1135
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: New York City
Programs: UA GS 1MM
Posts: 390
What amazes me the most is how disastrous it is on a communication standpoint.
Manage to upset your best customers after making everyone else happy.
I could see why they are not extending but in that case at least they could communicate saying that invitations will be reviewed keeping in mind the exceptional circonstances of the year and that they are counting on the exceptional loyalty of their GS flyers to write a new chapter of United’s history.
Anyways, we’ll see what’s left of the service/benefits/amemities/perks when we get back in the air but I feel it will be a new opportunity to cut cut cut even more !
Manage to upset your best customers after making everyone else happy.
I could see why they are not extending but in that case at least they could communicate saying that invitations will be reviewed keeping in mind the exceptional circonstances of the year and that they are counting on the exceptional loyalty of their GS flyers to write a new chapter of United’s history.
Anyways, we’ll see what’s left of the service/benefits/amemities/perks when we get back in the air but I feel it will be a new opportunity to cut cut cut even more !
Apr 6, 2020, 9:27 pm
#1136
Join Date: Aug 2019
Programs: United 1K, AA Million Miler, Marriott Lifetime Platinum,
Posts: 7
ei124, you said it perfectly. I did the same thing and sent an email to Global Services. More people need to complain. The fact that they treat Silvers better than Global Services is extremely disappointing.
Apr 7, 2020, 6:33 am
#1137
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Bucks County
Programs: UAL GS & Million Miler; Delta Lifetime Gold; Hilton Diamond; Marriott Platinum; Legion Etrangere
Posts: 1,609
It is reflected in the actions UA has taken since Kirby came on board to devalue the GS program. Pick your poison: death by a thousand cuts or turning up the temp on the frog but the message is the same; elites are a nuisance and top-of-the-tier elites are a special nuisance. Can anyone say that GS at the beginning of 2020 was better than it was in 2018? 2016?
Apr 7, 2020, 8:03 am
#1138
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
You guarantee me 1K? I've already earned it myself! ...and see people on FT talking about end-year mileage runs to get it for half the "price" now. The optics of this stink.
Apr 7, 2020, 8:55 am
#1139
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Tampa
Programs: UA Global Services and 3MM, Lifetime Hilton Diamond/Marriott Titanium Ambassador, Hertz PC
Posts: 250
That's exactly what I pointed out in my reply to them: "This is extremely disappointing news, where United has chosen to provide certainly and clarity to lower-status members, while ignoring its most valuable customers. I have talked to several other GS colleagues over the past two days, and while we expect United will eventually do the right thing the optics of this towards your best customers has not gone unnoticed."
You guarantee me 1K? I've already earned it myself! ...and see people on FT talking about end-year mileage runs to get it for half the "price" now. The optics of this stink.
You guarantee me 1K? I've already earned it myself! ...and see people on FT talking about end-year mileage runs to get it for half the "price" now. The optics of this stink.
Apr 7, 2020, 9:06 am
#1140
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: anywhere and everywhere
Programs: UA GS, AS MVP 100K, DL Diamond, Marriot Lifetime Titanium, AmEx Centurion
Posts: 5,528
I agree. I am very disappointed with this. I received no communication directly as others it appears. I guess they felt no reason to email me since I reached 3MM last month so I will have 1K regardless. I cherish my hard earned Global Services status which I have had for 8 consecutive years. I was well on my way for 2021 when traveling halted. I hope United "does the right thing"...