bubbashow

Any idea on catering on PP ORD-HNL. Will it be upgraded catering from Y?

Unitedloyalflyer

has been same as J for all domestic PP routes

This is the first post on here wondering if PP will last. It has proven to be a popular offering

findark

At a macro level (reading from earnings reports and presentations), it would seem that the naming is working very well on international routes, getting people to pay substantial fares because it's "only nicer Economy, not some crazy lavish expense like J" to the point where RASM adjusted for cabin footprint is actually higher than J (forget how much of that is UA specific versus other airlines reporting on PE).

Unitedloyalflyer

which is why the O cabin needs to be greatly expanded, and J reduced in size

WineCountryUA

While I would like to see that, one needs to be careful about that as increased PremPlus would undoubtedly lower its RASM.

I wonder how much of PresPlus success is about an improved seat versus an improved upgrade priority. Suspect it is some of both and upgrade priority move was a very clever step.

Unitedloyalflyer

Couldn't we also implement only single cabin upgrades? Y-O and O-J. Force people to buy O if they want to sit into J

Make O 42 inch pitch to match ANZ and 2-3-2 on the 777? That would at least provide a meaningful upgrade moving from Y-O

jamesinclair

Did nice pillows and headphones ever make their way to PP domestic (EWR-LAX/SFO)?

zeus2120

Flew OGG-ORD earlier this week. Not sure if it's the same as HNL but catering was breaded chicken or tofu. 14 chicken trays loaded and 10 tofu trays. Only had 7 people in PP so no issue getting what I wanted. Chicken came with rice, another dish of a cold rice & spam (I think), a packaged small cookie, and an inedible packaged dinner roll. Breakfast was a protein bowl or scrambled eggs, yogurt, and croissant with butter and jelly. Y doesn't get breakfast.

econ

Have you seen the waitlists? Often that's exactly what's necessary in order for upgrades to clear.

Unitedloyalflyer

I wouldn't allow GS to go from Y-J. No 2 cabin upgrades (which is the reason why I'd make O a bit nicer as not to totally annoy GS and definitely not annoy a CC)

stupidhead

I think UA could get away with increasing the Premium Plus cabin by maybe a row or two without a material decrease in RASM especially if they cannibalize the Economy seats behind that cabin to accomplish that.

Personally for me, the biggest value prop is space, with priority services on the ground and nicer amenities being a distant secondary consideration. Since I don't hold MP status upgrade priority isn't even a consideration. Upgrade priority probably sweetens the pot for people who have a realistic chance at one.

Also the marginal premium for Premium Plus over Economy/Economy Plus is easier to swallow than the premium for Business imo. It's my go-to cabin for transoceanic flights. I actually find that in some cases the Economy Plus buy-up is the most overpriced (e.g. $250+ each way on international flights).

kss5555

I realize my handle is outdated, however, I now live in Oahu. Grandparents (70s) are flying FNT-ORD-HNL next month. I can get them economy plus on the 789-10 but I can also upgrade them to premium Plus (I think that's what's United site called it) for $349 per on flight to HNL, we don't have a return date set. Is it worth it? It looks like they get extra leg room, enhanced meal service, complimentary drinks, and the seats does appear to redline similar or more than a standard domestic first class seat?? Thoughts on if I should upgrade them or stick with the economy plus. This is the first time I will have seen them in person since 2019 pre COVID. Want to have them enjoy experience. They are connecting from an early AM CRJ from FNT. Thanks flyertalk community for any insight.

findark

These discussions are always personal and highly variable.

I would happily pay $349 to move from Economy to what is effectively a domestic F seat for a 9-hour flight and consider it a good deal.

zeus2120

Your money is better spent buying them an extra seat in an E+ row (2 seats with the middle open). PP is definitely not as good as typical domestic First.

8MiHi

Advantages over E+ include
a wider seat, but not as wide as most domestic F
A premium meal service
2 bags
a footrest
a wider screen TV
Premier access
Greater legroom and recline

If it were my parents I would do it for that price. Buying 3 E+ seats is not as appealing to me. YMMV