Premium Plus (Premium Economy) seats and Experience
#571
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 376
I sat in 21G (aisle, 2nd row of PP cabin, in center section) on a 777-200 v5 due to last minute equipment change last week. I've searched the internet but couldn't figure out:
1. Armrest retraction : how do I?
2. Footrest (not legrest) - does it only swing down a few inches from the folded up position? Or am I missing some secret button? It seems awfully high up in that case.
Thank you!
1. Armrest retraction : how do I?
2. Footrest (not legrest) - does it only swing down a few inches from the folded up position? Or am I missing some secret button? It seems awfully high up in that case.
Thank you!
#572
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: United 1K, Frontier 100K, Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond/ Ambassador/ Milestoner
Posts: 569
The footrests have a high and a low position. You need to push them all the way up to the top and then they (sometimes) will bypass the first (high) position and go to the lower (actual useful) position.
#573
Join Date: Nov 2012
Programs: BA Bronze, United 1K, HH Gold, SPG Platinum, Marriott Platinum
Posts: 3,477
It did not help me when I got 3 plane configuration swaps in the last 2 days. I had a good seat in the booked configuration. Then, a good seat in the Polarized version. Then, an extremely good seat in the booked configuration: I had managed to get a seat in the former First Class area. Then, five hours before the flight, the swap to the pmCO 772 configuration ended my streak of good luck.
Thinking that I have to repeat this in one month annoys me. I just chose the wrong time to start flying United.......Or, maybe I'll be lucky and my bulkhead seat in Economy+ on the pmUA 772 for the inbound will get me a Premium Plus seat on the Polarized version.
Thinking that I have to repeat this in one month annoys me. I just chose the wrong time to start flying United.......Or, maybe I'll be lucky and my bulkhead seat in Economy+ on the pmUA 772 for the inbound will get me a Premium Plus seat on the Polarized version.
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#574
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,219
I do like Premium Plus but wish the leg rest in the bulkhead row went higher.
The bathroom is a huge issue and many of us just went to Polaris. I tried going back but between the tiny aisles with folks having the feet and arms and pillows out (do not sit in E if you can avoid it - 10 across is a killer and I think I would choose the back row of two seats where possible as more room) it was much easier to go forward and more toilets available. Think United should rethink the directive on Premium Plus not allowed to use Polaris bathrooms.
Wish they have the cool gel pillow in Premijm Plus.
Also, wish the armrest next to the window went down - would provide a couple of extra inches.
Would recommend and fly again, but there are some issues.
I was in 20A - great seat!
The bathroom is a huge issue and many of us just went to Polaris. I tried going back but between the tiny aisles with folks having the feet and arms and pillows out (do not sit in E if you can avoid it - 10 across is a killer and I think I would choose the back row of two seats where possible as more room) it was much easier to go forward and more toilets available. Think United should rethink the directive on Premium Plus not allowed to use Polaris bathrooms.
Wish they have the cool gel pillow in Premijm Plus.
Also, wish the armrest next to the window went down - would provide a couple of extra inches.
Would recommend and fly again, but there are some issues.
I was in 20A - great seat!
#576
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: SAN
Programs: 1K (since 2008), *G (since 1990), 1MM
Posts: 3,219
Oh yes, in 20A on SFO-FRA I wrapped the blanket round my feet. The cold was from the vents at floor level.
#577
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Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, UA Gold, WN, Global Entry; +others wherever miles/points are found
Posts: 14,422
UA seems to be outrageously stingy with RN space.. I wonder if they are training the algorithm still? SFO-FRA this Sunday is J7 IN2 I0, but O9 R8 RN0.
#578
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
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They don't seem to be having much trouble selling P+, so suppose this is not surprising. They're also getting tight with R on many routes.
#579
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SFO
Posts: 4,916
It seems that R fares are the sweet spots not more than $100 per way than a W fare on the routes I buy. But once that R bucket is gone, the A bucket is outrageously more expensive more than $500-$700 per way more.
#580
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#581
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: West
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 167
This is my ranking of PP vs. E+ seats, in the order of my most desired to least desired:
1) PP bulkhead window
2) PP bulkhead aisle
3) PP non-bulkhead window
4) PP non-bulkhead aisle
5) PP bulkhead middle
6) PP non-bulkhead middle
7) E+ non-bulkhead window
8) E+ non-bulkhead aisle
9) E+ bulkhead window
10) E+ bulkhead aisle
11) E+ bulkhead middle
12) E+ non-bulkhead middle
Yes, I have rated PP ahead of E+ in every single seat scenario, including middle over window/aisle. Comparative speaking, I have had better experience in PP bulkhead seating vs. PP non-bulkhead seating than E+ bulkhead seating vs. non-bulkhead seating, thus the higher ranking of PP bulkhead over PP non-bulkhead and E+ non-bulkhead over E+ buckhead.
Based on PP seat time of 787-10 (2-3-2), 772 (2-4-2),, and 77W (2-4-2).
1) PP bulkhead window
2) PP bulkhead aisle
3) PP non-bulkhead window
4) PP non-bulkhead aisle
5) PP bulkhead middle
6) PP non-bulkhead middle
7) E+ non-bulkhead window
8) E+ non-bulkhead aisle
9) E+ bulkhead window
10) E+ bulkhead aisle
11) E+ bulkhead middle
12) E+ non-bulkhead middle
Yes, I have rated PP ahead of E+ in every single seat scenario, including middle over window/aisle. Comparative speaking, I have had better experience in PP bulkhead seating vs. PP non-bulkhead seating than E+ bulkhead seating vs. non-bulkhead seating, thus the higher ranking of PP bulkhead over PP non-bulkhead and E+ non-bulkhead over E+ buckhead.
Based on PP seat time of 787-10 (2-3-2), 772 (2-4-2),, and 77W (2-4-2).
And no way in hell would I burn a GPU unless I could clear at booking because I've never failed to get an E+ aisle.
#582
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 332
Pe ua 179 ewr-hkg
Never flown on PE on this route. Is there any difference in the leg rest and foot rest between the bulkhead row and the other rows in PE? Specifically is the leg rest and leg rest as a single piece where the foot rest is extendible from the leg rest? I find that specific design helps me to get to sleep better as it provides more support overall.
#583
Moderator: United Airlines
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: SFO
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Bulkhead row is the combined version. The non-bulkhead the foot rest is built in the seat in front. Numerous pictures in this thread.
#585
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,153
There is no bathroom in the Premium Plus cabin, so most used Polaris.
Took my first flight in the Premium Plus seat (21E middle on a 777). A few thoughts from a 6ft 2, 200lb, reasonably broad shouldered person:
- I easily prefer a PP middle over any kind of E+ seat. Unless you really need to spill your body parts over into an aisle, the PP width and double wide arm rests were sufficient for me to not be rubbing shoulders with my neighbor. Obviously leg room is also adequate in PP.
- Leg/bag space is slightly annoying with the way the seats are aligned. Didnt happen to me, but you may end up in a fight.with your neighbor if storing baggage under seat.
- Larger screen is really nice
- Leg rest and foot rest are 98% useless someone my height. I used both briefly but there aren't something I can use for any length of time and be comfortable. They were only good for a very temporary bit of leg positioning relief.
- Headphones are a huge pain in the ... to plug in. Many,.myself included, had to use cell phone flashlight to be able to see when plugging it in. That said, the position does have some merit, but I would prefer it be more accessible.
- Seat recline is good.
- Bendable headrest is good and helped me a lot to nod off occasionally. I dont normally get any sleep on planes (unless on a lie flat)
Last edited by WineCountryUA; May 26, 2019 at 10:38 am Reason: merging consecutive posts by same member