Kacee

That display has been buggy the last several weeks, the "booked" number for PP is not correct.

jmastron

If it was a 777, the bins in the center are not as deep by a couple inches, and don't fit a legal carryon (mine at least, which I've carefully measured) wheels first. That was true before the retrofit and I don't think they were modified. The bins on the sides are deep enough for a full size carryon.

drewguy

Why do airlines do this (YQ, I assume you mean) rather than just build into the fare?

WineCountryUA

Not sure if still true but at one time the base fares had to be formally filed in some countries and during the oil / fuel crisis in the 70's YQ was allowed to reflect those rapidly fluctuating costs and could be adjusted in real-time. Additionally, for some time, taxes were only applied to the base and not YQ.

Beleive neither of the above is still true and then the DOT total airlines the term "fuel surcharges" had to actually reflect fuel expenses, so the term was changed to "international surcharges" and in reality today it is just a base fare pricing component.

Why don't they giveit up? Not sure but some systems still rank fares by base without YQ

findark

There was also a time when YQ was non-chargeable for agency commissions whereas base fare was. Many airlines do not waive YQ on award tickets (this is a bight spot in US carriers' mileage programs).

That being said, it's anachronistic and I don't know why carriers don't move to eliminate it, if only because the application of YQ to a ticket with three or more coupons is haphazard at best and is clearly something carriers don't really understand either.

Kacee

A definitive positive to UA's program. AA and DL both pass along surcharges from certain carriers.

SFHokie

I'm on the phone right now with 1K desk; they said "Due to weakness in HKG market and China, PP configured planes are being temporarily removed from some flights". Sounded like the guy was reading from a script.

The reason I'm on the phone is that my 12/18 flight #858 PVG-SFO was one of those planes affected. I purchased an R fare for PP seating and was downgraded to a B fare and sitting in regular old economy. No thank you. Working with them on reroutings right now. (#890 on 12/19 still has PP, so switching to that...)

--- fast forward about 10 minutes ---

Phone call with agent ended and was told that no changes can be made at this time to itineraries as they are making more schedule changes over the next week. Affected passengers will be notified with chances for refunds, reroutes, and other changes. (My paraphrasing, not their words verbatim.)

So looks like next week another phone call will need to happen.

What I don't like about this is that I received no notification email about the downgrade in cabin. Hoping this is a glitch they're aware of and will fix in the future; others might be paying for PP but only getting Y if they don't watch their itineraries closely.

secretalcoholic

In PP because UA hasn't started selling them yet, so snatched it as part of Economy Plus.

I'm assuming because of this the full PP service offering doesn't exist on these flights, still get the amenity kit, but nothing fancy like saks bedding or non-plastic flatware.

fumje

To what route are you referring?

secretalcoholic

EWR-LHR

WineCountryUA

You get standard E+ service if PP is not being marketed for that flight.

restlessinRNO

Which means no amenity kit.

WineCountryUA

Does not EWR-LHR go to an all PP route soon, like now? 15 Sept 2019

narvik

Your contribution has a very pertinent post count number!
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secretalcoholic

In that case, call me lucky cause I still got mine I’m still on the flight, Sept 14. So they definitely still haven’t made PP purchasable yet.