Oct 22, 2018, 3:44 pm
Last edit by: WineCountryUA
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion
This will be a discussion thread, for discussing the needed qualifications and timing of notification.
For posing formal notifications (but no discussion), use this thread Global Services 2019 Notifications (ONLY)
2019 GS Timeline
First requal notifications came out on 6 Dec 2018
First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For discussion of GS benefits, please use Consolidated Global Services Thread: Benefits, Questions 2018First-time notifications started about 3 Jan 2019
Numerous reports that all regular notifications will be out by 11 Jan 2019
Initial successful reconsideration appeals reported 15 Jan 2019
First reports of challanges15 Jan 2019
For 2017 qualifications, see the 2017 thread and for 2018, see the 2018 thread
To find your PQDs if >than $12K
Go to
MileagePlus activity since my last statement and it is in the "Account summary" table at the top of the page.
Note this is not just the UA operated PQDs (which is commonly believed to be what matters for GS) but rather your total PQDs.
Definitions
BIS is actual scheduled flight distance (Great Circle Mileage Distance -- GCM) between airports with 500 mile minimum for elites. This is the standard used for Lifetime miles also. Those flying mostly sub-500 segments sometimes prefer to not use the minimum rule.
The definition for CPM is a bit vaguer, especially since CPM is used in multiple different situations.
Believe for the purpose of this thread, GS qualification, folks are using
PQD CPM = UA PQDs / UA BIS
Note there is no direct evidence UA uses this CPM number for GS Qualification but it is a number FTers like to use.
As for BIS, UA does not report this number your account and it needs to be manually tracked.
One way is to make use that PQMs are based on BIS but there may be a multiplier / bonus for high end fares. If always in 2x PQMs, you could divide by 2 to get BIS.
rwsteelers had a good method for determining UA BIS -- the change in Lifetime Miles from the first of the year.
Hello:
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
To help with collection of qualification metrics for global services, I created a Google Doc. This will be useful for future members. For ease of use, I created a form which feeds into a spreadsheet. The spreadsheet and form does not require a google account and is free to use.
Similar spreadsheets were created in years past, so I'm hoping to continue this tradition. Please take the time to enter your stats into the spreadsheet. Many thanks
LINK to entry form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SYm...xRKZ_EUD8/edit
View responses here ( read only ):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
GS Qualifying for 2019 Discussion / Questions
Mar 10, 2019, 7:00 am
#796
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: EWR
Programs: UA MM GS, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 520
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Mar 10, 2019, 7:39 am
#797
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SJC/SFO (previously BNE, SIN, SHA/PVG)
Programs: UA GS/MM, Marriott TE, National EE, Global Entry/TSA-Pre, APEC BTC
Posts: 162
Mar 10, 2019, 4:50 pm
#798
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYD
Programs: UA GS, BA Gold, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, IHG Gold, National Exec Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,419
Last edited by WineCountryUA; Mar 16, 2019 at 3:24 pm
Mar 21, 2019, 9:31 pm
#799
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SJC/SFO (previously BNE, SIN, SHA/PVG)
Programs: UA GS/MM, Marriott TE, National EE, Global Entry/TSA-Pre, APEC BTC
Posts: 162
thanks to flyerbjorn I'm now EE on national. It worked. And also at $13k of my $15k GS challenge with the rest of the month to go. I have a business class flight to Asia this weekend so that will get me there. Now just need 60 more Marriott nights for the rest of the year to get the trifecta with ambassador elite.
Mar 22, 2019, 5:07 am
#800
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: LBB
Programs: UA 1K 1MM ★G | Marriott LTT | Hilton ♦ | Hertz PC | Global Entry TSA Pre ✓
Posts: 2,820
Maybe if I get some steal rates on Travelocity for National (doesn't happen often) for personal travel, I will do this and make the best of it.
Thanks for sharing!
Mar 26, 2019, 12:52 pm
#801
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: SF Bay Area
Programs: UA 1K MM, Marriott Life Plat, various others of little note
Posts: 2,763
One chart that would be interesting to me would be showing the distribution of qualifiers and non qualifiers, with the qualifiers in blue and the nonqualifiers in red. I would be just like the ones at the end of the charts now, but with new and requal combined and the total number of nonqualifiers added as a red bar on top of the blue ones (or below, doesn't matter).
Mar 26, 2019, 6:08 pm
#802
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYD
Programs: UA GS, BA Gold, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, IHG Gold, National Exec Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,419
I found out that a friend of mine, who also lives in Sydney, had a higher PQD than me last year, with fewer segments. I'm GS, but he's not.
As we dug into the details, his United mailing address is his parent's house in SF. I told him to change that to Australia, so he'd qualify next year.
As we dug into the details, his United mailing address is his parent's house in SF. I told him to change that to Australia, so he'd qualify next year.
Mar 26, 2019, 8:00 pm
#803
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chicago
Posts: 11,513
I found out that a friend of mine, who also lives in Sydney, had a higher PQD than me last year, with fewer segments. I'm GS, but he's not.
As we dug into the details, his United mailing address is his parent's house in SF. I told him to change that to Australia, so he'd qualify next year.
As we dug into the details, his United mailing address is his parent's house in SF. I told him to change that to Australia, so he'd qualify next year.
Mar 26, 2019, 8:11 pm
#804
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SYD
Programs: UA GS, BA Gold, Marriott Titanium/LT Plat, IHG Gold, National Exec Elite, Hertz PC
Posts: 1,419
Yield and revenue over multiple consecutive years could be a complicating factor; I assume you are talking about UA PQD's as that's all that count. MP address may or may not play a role, but I have seen no evidence of that. I have seen evidence that yield matters, and that revenue over multiple consecutive years matters, too. (And United has stated as much in public).
Mar 26, 2019, 9:11 pm
#805
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 489
PQDs are based on home airport, and SFO is one of the biggest GS hubs.
Mar 28, 2019, 6:32 am
#806
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: SJC/SFO (previously BNE, SIN, SHA/PVG)
Programs: UA GS/MM, Marriott TE, National EE, Global Entry/TSA-Pre, APEC BTC
Posts: 162
Just to close loop on my $15k challenge. I met the number and the next day I was made GS again.
Mar 31, 2019, 12:57 pm
#807
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Round Lake, IL
Programs: UA GS, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 1,064
Will requesting eu261 compensation affect GS renewal
Hey there,
Not sure this was discussed elsewhere (or if there is any real evidence one way or the other) but will requesting eu261 compensation for a 3+ hour mx delay for 4 people on an award ticket affect their decision to requal me for GS next year?
Not sure this was discussed elsewhere (or if there is any real evidence one way or the other) but will requesting eu261 compensation for a 3+ hour mx delay for 4 people on an award ticket affect their decision to requal me for GS next year?
Mar 31, 2019, 1:05 pm
#808
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 21,422
However, I'd be astonished if it had a negative effect, as those rights are protected by law. I hardly think the EC would look kindly on an airline taking retribution against a passenger for requesting the compensation laid out in the law.
Mar 31, 2019, 1:13 pm
#809
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: PHX
Programs: AS 75K; UA 1MM; Hyatt Globalist; Marriott LTP; Hilton Diamond (Aspire)
Posts: 56,484
I doubt that simply requesting comp would impact that. If you were to threaten to sue them following a denial, that might impact how they view the relationship.
Mar 31, 2019, 1:19 pm
#810
Suspended
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,262
Nobody here can say with any certainty because the guidelines are not published.
But, I would find it astonishing if pursuing a valid legal claim affected anything.
But, I would find it astonishing if pursuing a valid legal claim affected anything.