WineCountryUA

if on the same PNR -- 0% chance unless PNR is split

764toHI

Appreciate the heads up.

PV_Premier

after splitting i think the chances are semi-reasonable in this case.

your fare class will hurt you of course. all silvers on higher fare classes will be ahead of you, and the E+ load doesn't help you distinguish the amount of silver level competition.

of course, TODs are also an outstanding possibility when you see a flight load like this, and those won't help your cause either.

big V

I am a Platinum, flying on a B fare from IAD to DXB 4/17. Put in for an upgrade with miles about two weeks ago. It's showing J6 at this point.

I snagged an upgrade on this same route with miles as a lowly silver last July but am getting nervous about this one. I know B is up there, but it's going to be a battlefield upgrade if it happens at all. Any recent experiences on this route? Especially with miles?

I am returning on a Y DEL-EWR May 1, which is too far out to try to read the tea leaves on. I did manage an u/g on this route last April with a gifted GPU on a B fare. Which goes first in priority: the GPU or the miles? I will be within striking distance of 1K this year and may buy some PQMs if the GPUs are ranked higher than miles in the priority of who snags that precious upgrade.

Thanks for helping me figure it out as I get back into heavier traveling.

Kacee

Whether there is any priority between a GPU and a mileage upgrade is a subject of debate. Some assert UA will take the miles + co-pay first. I personally don't believe either has priority over the other, but that priority is determined by the published criteria, which are (1) status, (2) fare class, and (3) time of waitlisting.

In any event, status comes first. So a 1K on the cheapest discount fare will be prioritized ahead of a Plat on a Y or B fare. So the answer to your question is, if you hit 1K, your upgrades will have higher priority regardless whether you use miles or a GPU.

behtyas

Hi all! Very new to trying to figure all of these things out as I rarely fly, so any help would be incredibly appreciated.

I'll be flying DEN-NRT-TPE next month with 0 status. This is my second time flying DEN-NRT (previously did DEN-NRT-PVG a few years ago) and looks like i'll be on UA 787-8s both out/back.

For reference, I'm on an M fare (default for company booking on flexibles).

Here's my questions..
1) I put in for a MP Upgrade Award with sponsored miles and an OOP copay (due to Int'l I guess?) for the DEN-NRT leg. The flights about four weeks out with 0 R/RN, 12 BF seats available and booked 26/36 (I'm guessing there's a few others already WL?).

Realistically, what are my chances? This is for a Saturday flight.. only option.

I'm guessing anyone with any status will kick me to the curb when the lists are cleared.. My only hope is fare (M).

2) If I don't get cleared for the MUA on DEN-NRT, will that automatically roll to NRT-DEN on the return? (NRT-TPE is UA by JA, TPE-NRT is ANA).

3) If I (hopefully..) clear for the MUA, I put in for a E+ seat and paid the fee.. is it safe to assume I'll eat that E+ fee?

Thanks!

WineCountryUA

Probably best to hear from those more familiar with the route. However, a generic answer would be, chances are poor. The waitlist priority is status, fare, time of request. So any elite would out rank you.

no, that would take a separate request.

In the past UA explicit stated on upgrades, E+ fee would be refunded -- those statements have been removed from the website. Some have reported they still received the refund automatically -- see recent discussions in http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...es-merged.html

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behtyas

So for a round-trip, when UA mentions it's automatically applied to the next leg, those are only legs of a single direction? Just want to make sure I understand that right.

WineCountryUA

The standard upgrade request will applied to all UA operated flights in one direction.

Stud

Anyone familiar with EWR-BCN (764)? Flight is in about 2 weeks, and R is showing 0. J/C is showing 7. Do you think R will open up? If so, any idea when it's most likely?

Off topic, but somewhat related: what about an OLCI upgrade/buy-up offer?

Thank you.

PV_Premier

2 weeks out, J7, is probably not all that promising for upgrades to clear.

OLCI cash offers, if available, are typically in the range of $899-1299 for TATL flights. rare are the TOD offers that are 'common' on shorter domestic segments.

Kacee

Without knowing more specifics, can't really say, except that DEN-NRT is a difficult upgrade. SFO-NRT is much easier (and SFO-HND easier still). SFO-TPE has also had lots of R lately. DEN-NRT-TPE is not a good routing for upgrade odds.

behtyas

Sorry! Is this helpful?
J9, JN9, C9, D9, Z9, ZN9, P9, PN0, R0, RN0, IN0, I0, Y9, YN9, B9, M9, E9, U9, H9, HN9, Q9, V9, W9, S7, T0, L0, K0, G0, N0, XN0, X0

I've been watching some flights for the last few days and it seems to be complete luck as suggested.

Ah well.. It'd be fantastic to get the upgrade, but I'll be happy with my E+ seats.

eflyte

Anyone want to speculate on my best options for getting UG (to C) to Europe two weeks from today? I've got lots of TATL options, none showing any R - SFO-FRA (903), IAH-FRA (46), IAH-LHR (921), IAH-MUC (104), and a bunch of routes out of ORD. I know routes like ORD-BRU are probably my top shot, but I'd greatly prefer the longer segments out of the other hubs. Everything except the 787 flights is showing open 9's in all business buckets down to P, and although I know SFO is a huge risk that flight's currently showing a ton of un-reserved premium seats (~31 C, 3 F). Thanks for your suggestions...

Kacee

It really isn't. I don't understand these requests for upgrade advice that don't include dates of travel.

As hinted in my earlier post, your best bet is to move to different flights. Do you have a change fee on that M fare?

That's only if you roll the waitlist dice. I've cleared all my RPUs and GPUs over the past three years. The key is extremely careful flight selection.

You mean May 9 departure?