Premier Phone Line Delays During Current Winter Storm IROPS
#92
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Programs: UA-1k, 1mm, Marriott-LT Platinum, Hertz-Presidents Circle
Posts: 6,355
Called 3 times today to the 1k line
1st call 70 minutes on hold 10 am CST
2nd call 118 minutes on hold 11:30 CST
3rd call less than 2 minutes on hold 22:00 CST (am i lucky or what?)
I was told 1200 callers on hold this past Thursday and 900 this morning, down to 369 just now.
1st call 70 minutes on hold 10 am CST
2nd call 118 minutes on hold 11:30 CST
3rd call less than 2 minutes on hold 22:00 CST (am i lucky or what?)
I was told 1200 callers on hold this past Thursday and 900 this morning, down to 369 just now.
Last edited by iluv2fly; Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 pm Reason: elite number
#93
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,393
Last night, a personal friend of mine (and also FTer) called me and pretty much begged me to call the 1K line on his behalf to get his flight fixed. Of course, I obliged. But I got a busy signal 3 straight times, got mad, and started this thread instead. (Though I guess if I kept trying, I'd eventually get through, just like a GM.)
Maybe there is a business opportunity here. Since COdbaUA can't seem to prioritize their 1K/GS passengers anymore, maybe I should implement a queue for FTers (for a nominal fee, of course)
I call UA, wait on hold for X hours and finally get through. Then I start having FTers IM me stating that they need to speak to an agent. When it is their turn, I have them dial my conference line and then connect them with the UA agent. When they are done, I don't hang up, but rather IM the next FTer to have him call into my conference line. Wonder how many 'friends' the UA agent would be willing to help on a single call? Maybe we could get her entire shift?
So, what would you pay for this service right now?
(Note: I'm just theorizing here. I'm not offering to do this. Yet.)
Maybe there is a business opportunity here. Since COdbaUA can't seem to prioritize their 1K/GS passengers anymore, maybe I should implement a queue for FTers (for a nominal fee, of course)
I call UA, wait on hold for X hours and finally get through. Then I start having FTers IM me stating that they need to speak to an agent. When it is their turn, I have them dial my conference line and then connect them with the UA agent. When they are done, I don't hang up, but rather IM the next FTer to have him call into my conference line. Wonder how many 'friends' the UA agent would be willing to help on a single call? Maybe we could get her entire shift?
So, what would you pay for this service right now?
(Note: I'm just theorizing here. I'm not offering to do this. Yet.)
#95
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: PDX
Programs: United, SPG, Hyatt
Posts: 167
I've been trying all weekend as well on the Premier line. I just received a new message just now for the first time, telling me what my wait time is. I hadn't received that before. It said 3 minutes, and after about 8 minutes I actually got connected to an agent! Looks like United has been upgrading the system?! Seems like the worst time to do it, but at least they're making progress.
#96
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: SCE, GRU
Programs: UA MP Premier Gold (Life), Hyatt Explorer, Various other hotel FS pgms
Posts: 195
I am UA Gold in Sao Paulo: working to change a flight through PHL in two days. I gave up earlier this evening after 2.5 hours waiting (gotta have a life, ya know). Now it is 2:54 AM here Monday morning (11;54 pm EST Sunday evening) and I have been waiting on two lines for one hour and 45 minutes. Will they ever pick-up or am I stuck on hold forever?
#97
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: SAN
Programs: AS MVP 100K, Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite, UA 1MM,
Posts: 1,710
I call UA, wait on hold for X hours and finally get through. Then I start having FTers IM me stating that they need to speak to an agent. When it is their turn, I have them dial my conference line and then connect them with the UA agent. When they are done, I don't hang up, but rather IM the next FTer to have him call into my conference line. Wonder how many 'friends' the UA agent would be willing to help on a single call? Maybe we could get her entire shift?
So, what would you pay for this service right now?
(Note: I'm just theorizing here. I'm not offering to do this. Yet.)
So, what would you pay for this service right now?
(Note: I'm just theorizing here. I'm not offering to do this. Yet.)
#98
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,393
If you paid attention to this thread, you would see that the prioritization system is failing right now. Otherwise there would be no need for such a service!
#99
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Philadelphia, PA USA
Programs: CO Silver, HHonors Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 982
Not really, it is called competent management (or in this case, lack thereof). You anticipate demand, and react accordingly.
Amazon tests servers to ensure they don't crash on cyber Monday (or whatever the busiest day is)
New stadiums test bathroom flushing simultaneously to simulate halftime
Retailers hire extra help and require all hands on deck for Black Friday
Airlines - know in advance there will be peak demand yet don't upgrade telecom or assign additional resources
The reason there is so much regulation of airlines is that management is incapable of meeting basic customer service needs. Proven yet again.
To be fair this is not only a UA issue, WN is known for better service (at least on the phone) and is experiencing similar issues. But then again WN does not have 1Ks or GS.
Amazon tests servers to ensure they don't crash on cyber Monday (or whatever the busiest day is)
New stadiums test bathroom flushing simultaneously to simulate halftime
Retailers hire extra help and require all hands on deck for Black Friday
Airlines - know in advance there will be peak demand yet don't upgrade telecom or assign additional resources
The reason there is so much regulation of airlines is that management is incapable of meeting basic customer service needs. Proven yet again.
To be fair this is not only a UA issue, WN is known for better service (at least on the phone) and is experiencing similar issues. But then again WN does not have 1Ks or GS.
I'd give them a pass for an event like an earthquake or similar event that is, in fact, unpredictable. But on the whole the weather is relatively predictable in the short run (hey - it's probably going to snow in the northeast in 2-3 days) as well as in the long run (it's cold and snowy in January in North America and warm with thunderstorms in July and August). There's simply no good excuse for not having well-planned processes (with the supporting technology) for managing IRROPS.
#101
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Programs: ua mm, aa plat, starriott LTPP, ihg plat, hh gold.
Posts: 13,017
was able to get into premier line, told there'd be a 15 minute hold. 30 minutes later, still waiting. (not terribly upset about it, just another data point.) got a very competent houston-based agent at the 35 minute mark.
Last edited by karenkay; Jan 6, 2014 at 8:35 am
#102
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: BWI, MNL
Programs: UA*G, 1MM
Posts: 172
I spent three days trying to get ahold of an agent. Waiting about 1.5 to 2 hours each attempt. Finally got through yesterday, spoke to an agent for at least 30 minutes (maybe 45) and just checked the total call time: 3h32m.
All in all, I'm not upset. It was a storm that caused IRROPS across half of America. That's thousands of people stranded somewhere. I'm glad I wasn't one of them!(today, that is, because at some point in the future I will be one of those stranded)
All in all, I'm not upset. It was a storm that caused IRROPS across half of America. That's thousands of people stranded somewhere. I'm glad I wasn't one of them!(today, that is, because at some point in the future I will be one of those stranded)
#103
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
This is pretty much spot on. The airlines KNOW IRROPS happen. They know it's cold and it snows in the winter. They know when hurricane season occurs.
I'd give them a pass for an event like an earthquake or similar event that is, in fact, unpredictable. But on the whole the weather is relatively predictable in the short run (hey - it's probably going to snow in the northeast in 2-3 days) as well as in the long run (it's cold and snowy in January in North America and warm with thunderstorms in July and August). There's simply no good excuse for not having well-planned processes (with the supporting technology) for managing IRROPS.
I'd give them a pass for an event like an earthquake or similar event that is, in fact, unpredictable. But on the whole the weather is relatively predictable in the short run (hey - it's probably going to snow in the northeast in 2-3 days) as well as in the long run (it's cold and snowy in January in North America and warm with thunderstorms in July and August). There's simply no good excuse for not having well-planned processes (with the supporting technology) for managing IRROPS.
United needs trained representatives to handle this sort of demand. How many of these people do you want to be sitting around the rest of the year just to offer lower hold times in case of severe weather? Also, how do we know that the system isn't working as designed? Let's say the hold times got to be 4 hours plus. What's better - having people sit on hold this time, or simply offering a busy signal which means - we're too busy to take your call!
I would actually much prefer getting kicked out with a busy signal than sitting on hold for hours on end with no actual certainty you'll ever get through.
And by the way, even Amazon didn't meet their forecasted demand. UPS couldn't handle the volume of orders and thus some delays in getting people their packages on time occurred.
#105
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Programs: UA GS
Posts: 2,438
Was better on Sunday morning but not until about 7am EST.