Old (Classic) Slogan, "Come Fly the Friendly Skies Again", Returns to the New UNITED.
#136
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 372
I too am one in the minority, I see UA moving in the right direction. 15 year 1K, Million Miler the hard way, and 75 flights in this year with just a few negative experiences. The two last flights, ORD/PDX round trip, in First, were the two best flights yet. One PMUA crew and one PMCO crew, both fantastic. professional, friendly, attentive. Not a fan of Smisek but I see a lot of positives from the customer-facing personnel. I could always find some way I was wronged, but it's exhausting to generate so much energy to the negative. If 80-90% of my travels are stress free, which they are, I count myself lucky. If I go in to every encounter expecting to be disappointed I imagine I could find something to be disappointed about. But then again, I'm bring a positive attitude to every flight experience, and surprisingly, getting one back.
#137
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: Continental
Posts: 1,589
Yeah...
Is it just me or is UAL getting seriously pimped by the Times recently? This has got to be the 3rd or 4th article in which they have featured prominently in the past month or so...
FWIW I like the commercial. And about 2/3 of the people I interact w/ a United are friendly. I think Meatloaf said that ratio ain't bad...
FWIW I like the commercial. And about 2/3 of the people I interact w/ a United are friendly. I think Meatloaf said that ratio ain't bad...
#138
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I would imagine BF (two and three cabin) has a much higher % of paid traffic than GF.
#139
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Other crews and flight attendants are not so good. Trying to engage them is difficult. I don't try anymore. Last week DEN-LAS (sCO), a veteran (27-year) flight attendant told me: "I love flying, it's the passengers I hate." Not very friendly! An ad campaign is not going to overcome that attitude, that surely comes across to passengers.
DL (1980s): "We love to fly and it shows."
UA (2010s): "We hate our passengers and it shows."
#140
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: SEA
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I like the campaign (and know I will be attacked for my opinion). This helps re-build the brand and allows United to promote areas where it adds value for frequent fliers (network, mainline hard product, employees) under a common tag line. As noted in the article, this is aspirational and there is real risk under delivers (as opposed to Delta, which literally has to not climb to fail at delivering on its tag line).
It is disappointing (but not unexpected) that so many are quick to disparage new branding - the very thing they've been demanding for so long.
It is disappointing (but not unexpected) that so many are quick to disparage new branding - the very thing they've been demanding for so long.
#141
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I like the new ads, and I like the bigger idea as well.
I do think the natural inclination is to take the word "friendly" and connect it to friendly flight attendants, gate agents, etc., but to me "flyer friendly" is more about delivering an experience that has been optimized for the frequent flyer. Customer service is part of that for sure - but the focus of the ads is much more on route network, flatbed seats, wifi, etc., etc.
I think it's actually a pretty creative and logical way to tie together all of those disparate investments and functional benefits. It's not dripping in emotion and nostalgia, but does connect the dots quite nicely IMO.
Rhapsody works really well with this campaign. It's grand and impressive - just like the world's largest airline should be, especially one that (in theory) uses that scale to deliver an experience that is "flyer friendly".
Here's my full take: http://first2board.com/foodwineandmi...w-ad-campaign/
I do think the natural inclination is to take the word "friendly" and connect it to friendly flight attendants, gate agents, etc., but to me "flyer friendly" is more about delivering an experience that has been optimized for the frequent flyer. Customer service is part of that for sure - but the focus of the ads is much more on route network, flatbed seats, wifi, etc., etc.
I think it's actually a pretty creative and logical way to tie together all of those disparate investments and functional benefits. It's not dripping in emotion and nostalgia, but does connect the dots quite nicely IMO.
Rhapsody works really well with this campaign. It's grand and impressive - just like the world's largest airline should be, especially one that (in theory) uses that scale to deliver an experience that is "flyer friendly".
Here's my full take: http://first2board.com/foodwineandmi...w-ad-campaign/
I particularly like how they changed the "fly the friendly skies" theme to be a tad more, well, realistic. When I heard they were going back to that theme, I laughed: while often competent, nobody would say that their typical interaction with a UA employee was "friendly." Domestic airlines like Southwest and Alaska would have more credibility in this regard. But the way UA has re-defined "friendly," it works.
My favorite of the commercials is the int'l taxi ad. It speaks to me -- although I doubt there's any airport in the world served by UA that you can really take a pedicab to! And, of course, the reality is that when I'm overseas I'm RARELY flying UA. And that's because I know that, in the real world, I'm better off flying UA's international partners than flying UA.
#142
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Texas
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Hi anc-ord772,
Yes, it’s true. We’re proud to welcome back “Fly the Friendly Skies” as a cherished but updated part of our brand, and excited to share even more about it with you tomorrow and in the coming days. Keep an eye on the United Hub starting late morning for more details, and sneak previews of what’s to come…
Aaron Goldberg
Sr. Manager - Customer Experience Planning
United Airlines
Yes, it’s true. We’re proud to welcome back “Fly the Friendly Skies” as a cherished but updated part of our brand, and excited to share even more about it with you tomorrow and in the coming days. Keep an eye on the United Hub starting late morning for more details, and sneak previews of what’s to come…
Aaron Goldberg
Sr. Manager - Customer Experience Planning
United Airlines
Again, great move!
I too am one in the minority, I see UA moving in the right direction. 15 year 1K, Million Miler the hard way, and 75 flights in this year with just a few negative experiences. The two last flights, ORD/PDX round trip, in First, were the two best flights yet. One PMUA crew and one PMCO crew, both fantastic. professional, friendly, attentive. Not a fan of Smisek but I see a lot of positives from the customer-facing personnel. I could always find some way I was wronged, but it's exhausting to generate so much energy to the negative. If 80-90% of my travels are stress free, which they are, I count myself lucky. If I go in to every encounter expecting to be disappointed I imagine I could find something to be disappointed about. But then again, I'm bring a positive attitude to every flight experience, and surprisingly, getting one back.
Here is what I posted here in July this year:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ally-back.html
Prophetic vision or just a coincidence?
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#143
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: CMH
Programs: UA 1K, 1MM, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 745
I like the return of the slogan. Let's hope it is taken to heart by the employees and help turn around the last few years of ill-will and damage.
Plus, if they want to keep the tulip, they'll still be set for the comeback in downtown Sydney!
Plus, if they want to keep the tulip, they'll still be set for the comeback in downtown Sydney!
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#144
Join Date: Jan 2005
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A recent sCO flight crew thanked us for "flying the friendly skies" at the top of descent. May have been a former UA furloughee who crossed over (737 flight) but was interesting to hear on sCO metal nonetheless. Made me think that I would be happy to see that slogan return... and here it is!
An old football coach of mine used to tell us, "You get what you emphasize, you get what you tolerate." I think the return of the Friendly Skies slogan goes to the emphasis part... if management places an emphasis on friendliness, it would logically follow that we should see more of it.
An old football coach of mine used to tell us, "You get what you emphasize, you get what you tolerate." I think the return of the Friendly Skies slogan goes to the emphasis part... if management places an emphasis on friendliness, it would logically follow that we should see more of it.
#145
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It looks like they featured the 767 for for all the new commercials. Guess an orchestra would be too cramped in 3-3-3 The 2-3-3 767 config is definitely nice for couples traveling together. Was also hoping they would use the 787 for the flyby scene at the end of each, no Dreamliner love!
#146
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I like the rah rah videos myself. Once I even paid for a set of those self help tapes I like them so much.
#147
Join Date: May 2013
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It looks like they featured the 767 for for all the new commercials. Guess an orchestra would be too cramped in 3-3-3 The 2-3-3 767 config is definitely nice for couples traveling together. Was also hoping they would use the 787 for the flyby scene at the end of each, no Dreamliner love!
#148
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#149
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Our Nation's Capital
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All kidding aside, in 2012, yes -- there was a large disconnect. But the ship has started to right itself.
This campaign, while initially delayed, was sorely needed. Employees are excited. It's big. It's bold. It's even classy.
Operations are improving. The website is about to relaunch. Aero is up and running and will be getting up to speed in functionality. More improvements on the hard and soft product will be forthcoming in the next year as well.
I just completed a round trip from IAD to LHR in Global First and the entire crew was absolutely fantastic. Everyone was full of smiles and had a welcoming attitude to all pax, paid or NRSA. Both flights were even early.
It's been a long arduous road the past few years, but I am optimistic. While there is still much to be done and there have been changes that I'm less than thrilled with, the pieces are slowly coming into place.
Yes, much like the 17.2 inch wide seats on the 737, 747, and 757!
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#150
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 124
As an employee, I think the company is turning the corner. There's a great deal of work to be done but I think we're moving forward. I do see more effort, more accountability and the operation has improved a great deal. Give this thing a chance, I think we're getting better.