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Dan1113 May 14, 2021 3:37 pm

Those in level 3 areas of Scotland cannot travel to the rest of the UK, and vice versa.


From 17 May 2021
Unrestricted travel is allowed both within Scotland and between Scotland and England, Wales, Northern Ireland, the Channel Islands, and the Isle of Man – with the exception of any areas of Scotland in Level 3* or Level 4.

* From 17 May the following areas will be in Level 3:

Glasgow
Moray

HB7 May 14, 2021 4:26 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33251879)
It is possible to get Covid-19 between dose1 and dose2, with the risk greatest in the first few days, but then declining from 10 days or so. Also, and this is less well researched, the impact of any Covid infection is going to reduce with time too. By all means try out a LFD test if you wish. It is best to try and steer clear of infection if you can during the first week, which if you are maintaining social distancing and wearing masks should be pretty unlikely, the risk of infection has never gone away from being someone you live with or someone who visits you at home. A few occupations are risk (food processing, taxi drivers, healthcare) but mostly that's less of a risk. If you do get positive - and that is confirmed by PCR - then you should still get the second dose at the same time, but as mentioned above some countries would say don't bother with dose2. There is a case for that, but the UK approach is to stick to dose2 at the usual 8 week timelag. After dose2 your immune level will be as high as it can be, and the side effects of dose2 may be off the scale too, but the advice is to go ahead with dose2.

Later on, say day 15 from dose1 onwards the chances of infection are lower, and there is some evidence that it can be so mild that it is easily missed (e.g. a mild headache or a small arm rash). You would still need to self isolate as per the usual guidance. It's also worth pointing out that it is easy to confuse one of the common side effects of the vaccines - temperature chills and fever - for Covid.

Thanks for that CWS. Work was hoping I could travel to Manchester and Birmingham next week, but I was successful in pushing it out to about 9 days from my vaccine. I just wanted to build up as much immunity as possible, even though I'll be masking up and continuing social distance as best I can. On construction sites and in meetings however it is difficult when most people don't mask up in meetings.

liquidtoast May 14, 2021 7:52 pm


Originally Posted by Scots_Al (Post 33251751)
Tip for anyone 40+ in Scotland still waiting for their blue envelope - I gave up waiting patiently today as yet more younger than me were busy boasting of their jags, and filled out the contact form on nhsinform.scot for those missing an invitation.

Within an hour or so, I received a text message with an appointment two weeks away at a close (as the crow flies) but inconvenient location. No idea if that was always my intended slot or whether it was generated by my action. It also gave log in details for a website to rearrange if you couldn’t make it.

Well, I thought I would have a look and see if there was anything sooner, and was able to get an appointment tomorrow at the Louisa Jordan (and actually could have selected pretty much any time I wanted). Bit galling to see so many available appointments though - unless of course they were new ‘surge’ appointments to deal with the outbreak on the south side.

​​​​I had a similar experience actually. I was given an inconvenient appointment so I also went online to rearrange and was able to rebook for the very next day, with availability wide open. My closest centre would have been the Louisa Jordan but I was sent away to a random leisure centre in Bearsden. I'm 24 and was vaccinated as a household contact of an immunosuppressed individual so my only assumption is that they had to assign me somewhere that would guarantee Pfizer/Biontech or Moderna - I wanted to rebook for the Louisa Jordan but they had almost nothing available (presumably because I was limited to no AZ) so I stuck with Bearsden. This was a couple weeks ago and it seemed like the majority of people around me were there for second doses.

I believe the Hydro/Louisa Jordan is also the only place around here doing Moderna.

Dan1113 May 15, 2021 2:43 am

There's not been any moderna vaccines given out in Scotland for the past couple weeks now.


[However, the government's scientific advisory group for emergencies (Sage) says there is a "realistic possibility" it could spread 50% faster, which is a lot. There are some higher estimates of 60% coming out of India, but these are based on published genetic sequences from viral samples and its not clear how representative of the overall picture they are. Sage estimates the problems would really start with a variant that was 40% more transmissible as it "would lead to a substantial resurgence of hospitalisations" and put pressure on the NHS.

Scots_Al May 15, 2021 3:11 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33252810)
There's not been any moderna vaccines given out in Scotland for the past couple weeks now.

It was Pfizer for me this morning at the Louisa Jordan.

GregWTravels May 15, 2021 7:51 am

After yesterday's announcement of moving the time between the two vaccine shots from 12 to 8 weeks, I did a little math and realised that I am now 8 1/2 weeks since my first vaccination. Checked the NHS site, as I couldn't find anything in the news reports of what that would mean - i.e. do I need to change my appointment, or will I be contacted, and looks like it's a wait for them to contact you situation.
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I did look to see if that was an ability to change the appointment, but it's not possible unless you cancel and rebook. Seeing as I have an appointment only 2 1/2 weeks away, figured I wouldn't risk it and keep that appointment, and if they contact me to move it earlier then I'll take that as and when.

VSLover May 15, 2021 7:56 am


Originally Posted by GregWTravels (Post 33253215)
After yesterday's announcement of moving the time between the two vaccine shots from 12 to 8 weeks, ...

I did look to see if that was an ability to change the appointment, but it's not possible unless you cancel and rebook. Seeing as I have an appointment only 2 1/2 weeks away, figured I wouldn't risk it and keep that appointment, and if they contact me to move it earlier then I'll take that as and when.


i checked this morning and because i was messaged to rebook yesterday due to a supply issue, i knew there were plenty of appointment around my original 12 week date. and i re-booked into jun 15....there was no 8 week option last night when i did this.

so this morning though, i saw the NHS site said the second dose should be 8-12 weeks (actually listed on the page) so i took the chance and i cancelled and it gave me loads of options at exactly the 8 week mark--which is 10 days away from now. but i dont think there is any way to see the options.

bluemoon68 May 15, 2021 8:53 am

Anyone in England waiting for their second Astra Zeneca vaccine may well be able to go to a mass vaccination centre without an appointment. Local MVCs near me (Herts.) have been told to take walk ins without appointment for anyone 8 weeks post their first vaccine.

13901 May 15, 2021 9:04 am


Originally Posted by VSLover (Post 33253220)
i checked this morning and because i was messaged to rebook yesterday due to a supply issue, i knew there were plenty of appointment around my original 12 week date. and i re-booked into jun 15....there was no 8 week option last night when i did this.

so this morning though, i saw the NHS site said the second dose should be 8-12 weeks (actually listed on the page) so i took the chance and i cancelled and it gave me loads of options at exactly the 8 week mark--which is 10 days away from now. but i dont think there is any way to see the options.

I double-checked as well just out of curiosity. I had my first jab on May 11th and the soonest I can book a jab is still July 27th.

DaveS May 15, 2021 9:05 am

Daily data:

Cases 2,027 (2,047 last Saturday)
Deaths 7 (5)
Patients admitted 103 (101 on the 4th)
Patients in hospital 991 (1,156 on the 6th)
People vaccinated up to and including 14 May 2021:
First dose: 36,320,867
Second dose: 19,698,121

The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 8.3% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 8.9%. The number of people in hospital was last below 1,000 on the 14th September. Data for cases/deaths in NI is not available today.

PxC May 15, 2021 9:49 am

First doses have picked up, thankfully. The sooner we can smash the 45m mark the better

Dan1113 May 15, 2021 10:51 am

400 in Scotland alone so we're a basketcase it seems.

Incidence rate in Glasgow southside in one neighbourhood is 1300 per 100k. Surely this is the single highest incidence rate ever reported in the UK? Some London ones in Jan were about 1000 but I've never seen 1300.

Scots_Al May 15, 2021 11:14 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 33253535)
400 in Scotland alone so we're a basketcase it seems.

Incidence rate in Glasgow southside in one neighbourhood is 1300 per 100k. Surely this is the single highest incidence rate ever reported in the UK? Some London ones in Jan were about 1000 but I've never seen 1300.

Today’s 400+ in Scotland includes cases not properly reported on Friday, so isn’t a true 24 hour picture.

As for the rate on the south side - very high, sure, but what size of community is it based on? If it’s basically just Pollokshields West, the reported epicentre, that’s not even one council ward out of 23 in a city of 600k citizens - wouldn’t take too much of a spike to distort the figures in such a small sample.

Having said that, seeing the pictures of the idiotic Rangers fans today - with many, many more Union Jacks than masks (and apparently planes full of them coming from Belfast), makes me think we’ll have a bigger problem in Glasgow soon.

Dan1113 May 15, 2021 11:39 am

Told my southside friend about the fact that there seems to be appts booked for people in Glasgow southside without them knowing (read it on Twitter), and he phoned and sure enough, he has an appt on the 25th he didn't know about. Mid 30s guy. He is right in the heart of the area though so it being the 25th doesn't feel too...responsive tbh, like how they are doing it in Bolton etc.

If anyone knows anyone in the southside of Glasgow, I suggest phoning the Scottish appt hotline and asking them to check your details to see if you have one you don't know about.

HB7 May 15, 2021 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by PxC (Post 33253422)
First doses have picked up, thankfully. The sooner we can smash the 45m mark the better

Agreed. If we can get Novavax online soon then we can also pick up the pace as well, and hopefully well and truly beat the end of July target for all adults being offered a vaccine.


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