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Daily data:
Cases 2,412 (2,474 last Tuesday) Deaths 7 (20) Patients admitted 116 (116 on the 5th) Patients in hospital 932 (1,112 on the 9th) Patients on ventilator 125 (149 on the 10th) People vaccinated up to and including 16 May 2021: First dose: 36,811,405 Second dose: 20,546,452 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now down 2.7% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is down 27.9%. A general improvement in the data today, after a few days of rises. The weekly fall of deaths is helped by a high figure moving out of the weekly total. That also means the seven day daily average for deaths is now 8.9. |
A couple of good bits of news in those stats. Firstly this means that today we have reached 70% of the UK adult population for their first vaccination, yesterday's figure being 69.92%. And for both vaccines we will be on 40% tomorrow, yesterday being 39.02%.
On the death rate, it's actually fallen to the lowest level since 7 September 2020, with the rolling 7 day figure at 9, or with the extra decimal places 8.86. It's going to be quite difficult to get much lower than this, given the way the figures are collected. The lowest figure we had, since the start of the Pandemic in the UK was 6.71 on 21 August 2020. Because we are dealing with small numbers the figure will probably go up and down with high figures if seen via percentages. |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33260810)
A couple of good bits of news in those stats. Firstly this means that today we have reached 70% of the UK adult population for their first vaccination, yesterday's figure being 69.92%. And for both vaccines we will be on 40% tomorrow, yesterday being 39.02%.
On the death rate, it's actually fallen to the lowest level since 7 September 2020, with the rolling 7 day figure at 9, or with the extra decimal places 8.86. It's going to be quite difficult to get much lower than this, given the way the figures are collected. The lowest figure we had, since the start of the Pandemic in the UK was 6.71 on 21 August 2020. Because we are dealing with small numbers the figure will probably go up and down with high figures if seen via percentages. Is the rumour that is kicking around that those in Bolton that have been hospitalised were all eligible for the vaccination but for one reason or another did not have it? Again, if that is true then that is another reason to put out there for people to get jabbed. |
Originally Posted by Silver Fox
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Is the rumour that is kicking around that those in Bolton that have been hospitalised were all eligible for the vaccination but for one reason or another did not have it? Again, if that is true then that is another reason to put out there for people to get jabbed.
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Speaking of the SA Variant... what happened to it? I remember an article from the British Heart Foundation (I know, not exactly pulmonology but it’s close enough) saying that they still needed further research into its “powers” against vaccination. Did anything come out of that? (And ditto for the Manaus/Brazil variant while I’m at it).
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Originally Posted by 13901
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Speaking of the SA Variant... what happened to it? I remember an article from the British Heart Foundation (I know, not exactly pulmonology but it’s close enough) saying that they still needed further research into its “powers” against vaccination. Did anything come out of that? (And ditto for the Manaus/Brazil variant while I’m at it).
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33261106)
Basically they both got squashed, at least within the UK and Portugal, by the evolutionary advantages of B.1.1.7, the Kent variant. This was first hinted at in this thread around Christmas time incidentally. We still don't have enough evidence about whether B.1.617.2 has the edge on B.1.1.7 or not, and there are actually two other Indian variants as well. We will probably know by the end of the week. But for SA and Manaus, that's not really an issue in the UK any more, even though there continues to be a few cases every so often.
So from a super simplistic depiction of genetic supremacy, Kent > Brazil and Kent > SA. Could Covid go the same way as SARS, which if memory doesn’t deceive me had a dominant mutation that made it basically harmless? |
Originally Posted by 13901
(Post 33261181)
So from a super simplistic depiction of genetic supremacy, Kent > Brazil and Kent > SA. Could Covid go the same way as SARS, which if memory doesn’t deceive me had a dominant mutation that made it basically harmless?
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I wonder how long it will be until the Pfizer–BioNTech gets approved for those under 16 in the UK. It has already happened in a few countries including the US and Singapore.
I find it very interesting that Singapore has already changed their strategy of vaccination to 6-8 weeks apart instead of the 3-4 they were doing before. They announced that they were considering it only a day or two after the paper that has been discussed here before was published in the BMJ. This is quite the contrary to (at least the press there) that was saying before that the delayed approach done by the UK was a bad idea. |
Speaking of the SA variant, what I'd give for a green or even amber! Try being a red, :(:(
From a couple of visits a year to KNP and sometimes Eswatini, to zero, zilch, nada, nothing. I'm fast losing the will.... I genuinelly can't see a way out for travel down to SA again, it just seems so hopeless. Sorry, just having a wallowing moment. #FoodForTheSoul |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33260810)
A couple of good bits of news in those stats. Firstly this means that today we have reached 70% of the UK adult population for their first vaccination, yesterday's figure being 69.92%. And for both vaccines we will be on 40% tomorrow, yesterday being 39.02%.
On the death rate, it's actually fallen to the lowest level since 7 September 2020, with the rolling 7 day figure at 9, or with the extra decimal places 8.86. It's going to be quite difficult to get much lower than this, given the way the figures are collected. The lowest figure we had, since the start of the Pandemic in the UK was 6.71 on 21 August 2020. Because we are dealing with small numbers the figure will probably go up and down with high figures if seen via percentages. |
Originally Posted by ahmetdouas
(Post 33261662)
Ok great, but why then all the doom and gloom about the restrictions not ending June 21 and the governement saying 'all options open' and 'we rule nothing out'
And if these are things which are under active consideration, far better to be open and honest about that from the start, than to be relentlessly positive and gung-ho, only to change course with no notice at the last minute. Perhaps in that latter regard Johnson has been burned too many times and has learned lessons about what has engendered far greater trust in the handling of the pandemic - even if ultimately little difference in actions taken - in Scotland and Wales. |
In Scotland, the numbers are still not going the right way. Glasgow is still a basketcase, and it is spreading to nearby areas. I imagine staying at level 3 will continue for Glasgow and if anything, some that just went to L2 this week will go back up to L3, which of course involves a legal requirement to not leave your council (which I really wish was a thing of the past by now).
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Robert Peston reports:
Here is the point. As I mentioned on Monday, if the Indian variant escapes the vaccine in a modest way, if the vaccine is less effective on the Indian variant than on the Kent one, that reduced efficacy seems to apply to the AstraZeneca/Oxford vaccine, not the Pfizer and Moderna ones, scientists tell me.And just to clarify, they say there may be a 10 or 15 percentage point reduction in the efficacy of AstraZeneca vaccine on serious disease, which means the vaccine still works pretty effectively, but just not quite as well. That's a pretty steep drop off. If its that much with serious disease, imagine the % on transmission or even mild disease, and given AZ is our main vaccine, that doesn't bode well for future numbers if we can't somehow clamp on the Indian variant. I do hope this proves to be wrong, though... More info here: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...s-now-unlikely |
Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
(Post 33257367)
That is all within the normal range of side effects, you can use the Yellow Card system to report this in, if you wish. There is an App for that, of course. The tiredness is often of the non sleepy variety, so if you try to sleep it off it doesn't always work. Did you try paracetemol? That is often effective and doesn't wreck the vaccine.
Anecdotally that sort of reaction on Pfizer1 suggests that you have previously had COVID-19. Pfizer2 won't normally be so bad. The arm issue is a strange one, we don't get it with AZ, but people report being almost unable to move their arm for a few days, or even carry anything more than a cup with it. But yes, it's nothing to worry about other than total proof that you have had a correct dose of Pfizer and that you will be powerfully protected going forward. I will be curious to see how the second dose goes. |
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