Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
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N767BA, the first jet off the line remained in Boeing colors, and eventually served as the platform for the Airborne Optical Adjunct (AOA) / Airborne Surveillance Testbed (AST), both programs being run by the U.S. Army Space and Missile Defense Command
the next three, all in United colors and with a three-crew flight deck configuration, made up the Pratt & Whitney flight test fleet (N601UA, N602UA, N603UA)
the first Delta jet (N101DA, Line Number 6, also three-crew) was a the first GE-powered bird (it’s still active in cargo service with ABX Air, N740AX)
from what I remember, L/N 5 (N604UA, three-crew) made a brief appearance in the flight test program and was the first to enter the flight deck conversion line; L/N 7 (N605UA) was the first built with a two-crew flight deck
the first AA jet was L/N 8
L/N 9 (N606UA) flew the inaugural revenue flight; L/N 10 (N607UA) flew the First-of-Model certification test flight on 11 Aug 1982 (I was Test Director) … I think these two were ceremonially delivered together
L/N 12, “Spirit of Delta” N102DA, flew the First-of-Model for the GE-powered variant (17 Sep 1982; I was also in the TD seat) and is now on display at the Delta Flight Museum in Atlanta
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Currently posting from aboard another flight.
Can anyone guess which one based upon the pictured evidence?
We've got a nice tailwind so we are rippin' along with considerable alacrity! Seven hours since departing Newark and we're already past Vienna. Only 11 more hours to go.
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Currently posting from aboard another flight.
Can anyone guess which one based upon the pictured evidence?
We've got a nice tailwind so we are rippin' along with considerable alacrity! Seven hours since departing Newark and we're already past Vienna. Only 11 more hours to go.
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1983, Rio
Departing for Miami on a Friday night initially sounds routine, but to your surprise, both nonstops — Varig’s DC-10 and Pan Am’s 747 — are sold out.
Well, you’re always looking for more interesting options than a three-stop direct flight, and you find four alternative ways to get to MIA. Three of them utilize a 630pm departure on a one-stop flight to a connecting airport.
A- a one-hour interline connection to a nonstop flight, arriving at 615am. Each jet has a different number of engines.
B- a 1+10 online connection to a one-stop flight (same equipment type), arriving at 740am
C- a 1+50 online connection to a one-stop flight via a different city (also the same equipment type), arriving at 845am.
D- This option is a 5pm departure on a nonstop flight, with a one-hour connection to a two-stop flight arriving a 605am. Both airlines and equipment types are different from the prior three options.
Please identify all the usual information for each itinerary (airline, equipment, intermediate stop/s, and connecting points). Bonus points for the relevant info about the direct flight.
E- You decide instead to spend Saturday in Rio, and find an itinerary that allows you to travel mostly in the daytime on Sunday rather than taking a redeye. It involves nonstop flights on three airlines and two aircraft types. The details, please.
Well, you’re always looking for more interesting options than a three-stop direct flight, and you find four alternative ways to get to MIA. Three of them utilize a 630pm departure on a one-stop flight to a connecting airport.
A- a one-hour interline connection to a nonstop flight, arriving at 615am. Each jet has a different number of engines.
B- a 1+10 online connection to a one-stop flight (same equipment type), arriving at 740am
C- a 1+50 online connection to a one-stop flight via a different city (also the same equipment type), arriving at 845am.
D- This option is a 5pm departure on a nonstop flight, with a one-hour connection to a two-stop flight arriving a 605am. Both airlines and equipment types are different from the prior three options.
Please identify all the usual information for each itinerary (airline, equipment, intermediate stop/s, and connecting points). Bonus points for the relevant info about the direct flight.
E- You decide instead to spend Saturday in Rio, and find an itinerary that allows you to travel mostly in the daytime on Sunday rather than taking a redeye. It involves nonstop flights on three airlines and two aircraft types. The details, please.
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https://www.flightradar24.com/data/f.../sq21#2e54f7c9
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60 years ago — 27 Nov 1962
rollout of E001, the first of 1832 727s
following several years of restoration at Paine Field in Everett, N7001U currently resides at the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field, Seattle
I flew LAX-MDW aboard this jet in Apr 1986
following several years of restoration at Paine Field in Everett, N7001U currently resides at the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field, Seattle
I flew LAX-MDW aboard this jet in Apr 1986
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Originally Posted by jrl767
Following several years of restoration at Paine Field in Everett, N7001U currently resides at the Museum of Flight at Boeing Field, Seattle
I flew LAX-MDW aboard this jet in Apr 1986
I flew LAX-MDW aboard this jet in Apr 1986
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That's the one, JL A 4 year old A350-941ULR - Ultra Long Range. According to the Sky Map as we were descending into SIN, the total distance flown was 17,295km - or 10,740 miles.
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Good Friday Afternoon All!
It's been rather quiet here on the OTAQ&D as of late. So I thought I would offer a "six pack" of new quiz questions. And here we go...
Please limit your response to no more than two quiz questions per day so that all may participate. Please also limit your guesses to three attempts per day per quiz question. I believe this will avoid a "shot gun" approach concerning guesses. So if you have not correctly guessed the complete answer for a specific quiz question after three attempts in any given day, you can then try again the next day. And as always, please try to be as specific as possible when guessing aircraft types. Thanks!
The first five quiz questions all have a time line of 1981......
1. You are at your home in Newport Beach in southern California and it's time for a business trip that will take you to three cities in North America. First stop: Atlanta. Now you could take a nonstop out of LAX to ATL. However, you would very much prefer to fly out of Orange County John Wayne Airport as this very convenient airfield is located less than 20 minutes by car from your home. There are no nonstop flights from SNA to ATL.....but there is a direct flight that makes four stops en route. Ah, a milk run flight! Perfect! Identify the airline, all four stops in the order in which they will be made and the equipment. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S SNA-LAS-DEN-ICT-FSM-ATL
2. Your meeting in Atlanta went very well. And now it's time to fly to your second stop: Vancouver, BC. There is no nonstop service from ATL to YVR....but there is a direct two stop flight. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S ATL-DEN-GEG-YVR
3. Another great meeting! So you're now off to your third and final stop: Tucson. And nope, there's no nonstop service from YVR to TUS....but there is a direct three stop flight. Identify the airline, the three stops and the equipment. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S YVR-GEG-DEN-PHX-TUS
4. Your third meeting has also gone well. So now it's time to fly home arriving into Orange County John Wayne Airport on the one and only daily nonstop flight from Tucson. Name the air carrier and the aircraft. ANSWERED - It was Republic operating a D9S
5. Your back on the road on business in Columbia, South Carolina where you've just completed a project assignment. Old friends in Sonoma County in northern California have just called wanting to know if you would be interested in joining them at their new second home located on the shores of Lake Tahoe near Emerald Bay. And, oh by the way, the snow conditions on the slopes at the Heavenly ski resort are currently darn near perfect! So you're now on your way to the Lake Tahoe Airport (TVL) via flights on two different airlines operating different aircraft types. Your first flight will make two stops en route to your connecting airport and your second flight will be nonstop. Identify both airlines, both stops made by the first flight, the airport where the connection will be made and the different equipment operated on each flight. PARTIALLY ANSWERED - The first flight was operated by Eastern CAE-ATL-LAS-RNO....but not with a 72S. The second flight from RNO to TVL was operated with a DHC-7 Dash 7....but not by Golden West or Wings West.
6. Now it's 1988 and you have been visiting with good friends in Montauk on the eastern tip of Long Island in New York. Your old sailing buddy has just arrived in Key West on board his 60 foot catamaran and is preparing to sail around the western tip of Cuba to Cayman Brac in the Cayman Islands. And he wants to know if you would like to join him and his lady friends on this sailing excursion. Well, why the heck not! You will depart from the nearest commercially served airport which, of course, is Long Island MacArthur with a connection being required for your trip to Key West. Your first flight will make one stop en route and your second flight will be nonstop. The same airline operating the same aircraft type will operate both flights. Identify the air carrier, the stop made by the first flight, the airport where the connection will be made and the equipment operated on both flights.
It's been rather quiet here on the OTAQ&D as of late. So I thought I would offer a "six pack" of new quiz questions. And here we go...
Please limit your response to no more than two quiz questions per day so that all may participate. Please also limit your guesses to three attempts per day per quiz question. I believe this will avoid a "shot gun" approach concerning guesses. So if you have not correctly guessed the complete answer for a specific quiz question after three attempts in any given day, you can then try again the next day. And as always, please try to be as specific as possible when guessing aircraft types. Thanks!
The first five quiz questions all have a time line of 1981......
1. You are at your home in Newport Beach in southern California and it's time for a business trip that will take you to three cities in North America. First stop: Atlanta. Now you could take a nonstop out of LAX to ATL. However, you would very much prefer to fly out of Orange County John Wayne Airport as this very convenient airfield is located less than 20 minutes by car from your home. There are no nonstop flights from SNA to ATL.....but there is a direct flight that makes four stops en route. Ah, a milk run flight! Perfect! Identify the airline, all four stops in the order in which they will be made and the equipment. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S SNA-LAS-DEN-ICT-FSM-ATL
2. Your meeting in Atlanta went very well. And now it's time to fly to your second stop: Vancouver, BC. There is no nonstop service from ATL to YVR....but there is a direct two stop flight. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S ATL-DEN-GEG-YVR
3. Another great meeting! So you're now off to your third and final stop: Tucson. And nope, there's no nonstop service from YVR to TUS....but there is a direct three stop flight. Identify the airline, the three stops and the equipment. ANSWERED - It was Frontier operating a 73S YVR-GEG-DEN-PHX-TUS
4. Your third meeting has also gone well. So now it's time to fly home arriving into Orange County John Wayne Airport on the one and only daily nonstop flight from Tucson. Name the air carrier and the aircraft. ANSWERED - It was Republic operating a D9S
5. Your back on the road on business in Columbia, South Carolina where you've just completed a project assignment. Old friends in Sonoma County in northern California have just called wanting to know if you would be interested in joining them at their new second home located on the shores of Lake Tahoe near Emerald Bay. And, oh by the way, the snow conditions on the slopes at the Heavenly ski resort are currently darn near perfect! So you're now on your way to the Lake Tahoe Airport (TVL) via flights on two different airlines operating different aircraft types. Your first flight will make two stops en route to your connecting airport and your second flight will be nonstop. Identify both airlines, both stops made by the first flight, the airport where the connection will be made and the different equipment operated on each flight. PARTIALLY ANSWERED - The first flight was operated by Eastern CAE-ATL-LAS-RNO....but not with a 72S. The second flight from RNO to TVL was operated with a DHC-7 Dash 7....but not by Golden West or Wings West.
6. Now it's 1988 and you have been visiting with good friends in Montauk on the eastern tip of Long Island in New York. Your old sailing buddy has just arrived in Key West on board his 60 foot catamaran and is preparing to sail around the western tip of Cuba to Cayman Brac in the Cayman Islands. And he wants to know if you would like to join him and his lady friends on this sailing excursion. Well, why the heck not! You will depart from the nearest commercially served airport which, of course, is Long Island MacArthur with a connection being required for your trip to Key West. Your first flight will make one stop en route and your second flight will be nonstop. The same airline operating the same aircraft type will operate both flights. Identify the air carrier, the stop made by the first flight, the airport where the connection will be made and the equipment operated on both flights.
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my questions from last week, pertaining to a 1983 Rio-to-Miami trip (Post 27004), are still out there
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The first five quiz questions all have a time line of 1981......
2. Your meeting in Atlanta went very well. And now it's time to fly to your second stop: Vancouver, BC. There is no nonstop service from ATL to YVR....but there is a direct two stop flight. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft.
2. Your meeting in Atlanta went very well. And now it's time to fly to your second stop: Vancouver, BC. There is no nonstop service from ATL to YVR....but there is a direct two stop flight. Name the air carrier, both stops and the aircraft.
3. Another great meeting! So you're now off to your third and final stop: Tucson. And nope, there's no nonstop service from YVR to TUS....but there is a direct three stop flight. Identify the airline, the three stops and the equipment.
And my first guess for #3: RC D9S operating YVR-SEA-RNO-LAS-TUS
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my questions from last week, pertaining to a 1983 Rio-to-Miami trip (Post 27004), are still out there
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2. The first stop was indeed Denver. However, it wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the second stop wasn't Seattle. But I have the feeling this question will now be answered in the very near future.
3. Alas, I do not believe Republic nor its predecessor Hughes Airwest ever served Vancouver....although both air carriers did serve Calgary and Edmonton. So it wasn't RC, the flight in question did not stop in Seattle, Reno or Las Vegas and the equipment wasn't a DC-9-30.
Please guess again, sir!
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1983, Rio to Miami
CCS as the connection point is INCORRECT
GRU and EZE as the intermediate stop on the first flight are also INCORRECT; however, one of them is extremely close
GRU and EZE as the intermediate stop on the first flight are also INCORRECT; however, one of them is extremely close