Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
May 21, 2023, 1:46 pm
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1. (1965) From your home base in Merida, Mexico you’ve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? You’ve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.
2. (1986) It’s spring breakand this year you’re taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you’ll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there’s no way you’re making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
3. (1995) Who'd’ve thought Durango, Mexico was just a single connection via two nonstop flights away from Winnipeg, Canada? Not you! Two airlines will be involved, each operating a different aircraft type. Heck, you’ll even get a snack and lunch along the way. Compralo, Danno! Identify the two airlines, the connection point and the two aircraft types.
4. (1974) Family business has you traveling later this week between Ciudad Obregon, Mexico and your home base in Colorado Springs. The thought of traveling between these two secondary cities leads you to believe it will be a long and convoluted journey, but you’re pleased to discover that you can do so via just two flights – the first a one stopper to your connection point followed by a nonstop into Colorado Springs. Of course, two airlines are involved and each operates a different type of aircraft. Identify if you can all the usual stuff involved in these questions.
6. (1986) Business calls in the form of a sales presentation in Rockford, Illinois next week. From your home base in Philadelphia, you’ve found a convenient itinerary involving two nonstop flights on two different airlines. Both airlines will be operating the same equipment, and First Class is available on both flights. Book it, Danno. Please provide all the usual particulars.
8. (1974) This is gonna be fun! From your home in St. Louis, MO you’ll be flying to Montreal, Quebec where you’ll be boarding a riverboat for a two day cruise up the St. Laurence River to beautiful Quebec City. Your trip will involve three flights aboard three airlines, each of them operating equipment built by a different manufacturer. Two widebody jets will be flown. No non U.S. airlines will be flown. TWA will not be flown. Given these clues, can you determine the three airlines, the routing and the three aircraft types?
10. (1986) It’s vacation time again and this year you and the love of your life are off to San Juan, Puerto Rico. There are, however, a couple of caveats. First, she refuses to travel through New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport ever again. Second, if it can be arranged, she’d love to see what it would be like to travel in First Class. Happy wife, happy life - so you promise to see what you can do. Alas, there are no nonstops from anywhere in Canada to San Juan. However, with a little help from your travel agent sister, you think you’ve found a suitable option. You’ll depart out of Montreal’s Mirabel Airport on a one stop flight to a connection point where you’ll overnight before boarding a nonstop flight the next morning to San Juan. Two airlines will be involved, utilizing two different aircraft with a total of seven engines. Identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the aircraft types.
12. (1986) You’ve recently received an offer to invest in a new resort being built in Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. From your corporate headquarters in Mexico City, you’re surprised to find that you can fly to Puerto Plata via a single connection involving two nonstop flights. Both aircraft involved are built outside of the United States, though both are also built in the same country. Identify the airlines, the route and the two aircraft.
13. (1995) From the heat and humidity of the bayou to the cold dry air of the Canadian Arctic – you’re not sure if you should look forward to the change or try to find a way not to make this trip. Still, if things go well your business could make a lot of money. Additionally, you’ll be able to fly all the way from New Orleans to Yellowknife in a single day. And, you’ll even be served breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. You’ll start with a one stop flight direct to your connection point. Following a four hour layover, you’ll fly nonstop to Yellowknife. Two airlines – each flying a different type of aircraft – will be involved. Please identify the airlines, the routing including the enroute stop of the first flight and the two aircraft types involved.
15. (1965) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.
16. (1986) It’s April and you’re off to visit Death Valley National Park before it gets too hot! From your home in Kenosha, Wisconsin you’ve found a good deal departing from your closest airport. An online connection involving two nonstop flights aboard the same airline will be involved, with one of them being a widebody. The widebody flight will be the shortest distance one can fly a widebody into Las Vegas from any airport east of Las Vegas. A total of six engines will be employed on both jets, all of the engines supplied by the same manufacturer. Given these parameters, can you determine the airline, the two jet types to be flown and the connecting airport?
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17. (1986) If you want to fly in First Class on a through fare from Allentown, PA to Montreal, QB, only one airline can accommodate you via a single connection and two nonstop flights – both of them being operated with the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the routing and the aircraft type.
18. (1995) You’ll be flying from Hartford, Connecticut to Orlando, Florida next week. You try to place a call to Eastern Airlines only to find out they’re no longer flying. Whaaaaat?!! When did that happen? A quick call to your trusty travel agent reveals not one but FIVE different airlines operating nonstop between Hartford and Orlando. Even more amazing, each airline operates a jet type unique and different from each of the other four. Identify each of the five airlines and the aircraft type each operates. Complete guesses only please, meaning ALL five airlines and aircraft.
19. (1974 If in early 1974 you wanted to fly from the west coast of the U.S. all the way to Miami, Florida via only three nonstop DC-9-30 flights, there is only one possible way to do so. I know. I spent about an hour researching this question. Aside from one well known airline, DC-9-30 flights by US airlines are rare west of the Midwest. And, you can only do this trip eastbound. It doesn’t work westbound due to one airline’s choice of aircraft on a particular route. Anyway, three airlines are involved – as noted each operating nonstop flights. For you mathematically challenged types, that means there’ll be two connections. So – are you up for it? I’ll start you off with a hint: You’ll start from San Jose, California. Routing and airlines, please.
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20. (1965) Your favorite cousin’s getting married next month in Roanoke. From your home in San Diego, getting to Roanoke is gonna be quite a challenge. Fortunately your travel agent has found you an interesting itinerary involving three nonstop flights, each of them on different airlines utilizing three different aircraft types. However, each of the aircraft types was built by the same aircraft manufacturer. As an added bonus, you’ll be served dinner on the final leg into Roanoke. Can you identify the three airlines, routes and aircraft types?
A N S W E R E D
21. (1986) It’s been a great week of sun and fun on Maui. You almost hate to go home to Tucson, especially after the three flight nightmare you endured on the outbound trip. Thankfully the return looks much more promising – two nonstop flights via a single online connection. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types involved.
22. (1974) Your company has won a bid to install air conditioning in an office building being built in Culiacan, Mexico. From your headquarters in Nashville, Tennessee – this is going to involve a long day of flying. First, you’ll board a one-stop flight to Memphis. Next you’ll board a five stopper from Memphis to Mexico City. Finally, you’ll board a one stopper from Mexico City to Culiacan. Three airlines will be flown, all of them operating the same type and variant of aircraft. Identify each of the airlines, all of the enroute stops and the aircraft type common to each flight.
23. (1965) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1965, there were four states west of the Mississippi River that had scheduled flights with Lockheed Constellations of any variant. Identify the four states and, if you’re up for it, which state had the most airports served with Connies.
24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?
25. (1974) From one island paradise to another - This retirement gig is starting to look pretty good! You’ll depart Honolulu mid-morning aboard a one stop flight to your connection point where you’ll then board a nonstop to your second connection point. Following a three hour layover during which you’ll enjoy lunch with an old school chum, you’ll fly nonstop to Antigua. All flights will be aboard the same airline, but your final flight to Antigua will be on a different aircraft type than your first two flights. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types.
26. (1965) You are sat at the head of the runway, poised to take off aboard the only twin turbo jet powered aircraft in scheduled service out of San Francisco. There’s only one destination for this flight and the flight operates once daily. Identify the airline, aircraft type and destination
27. (1986) You need to fly from Chicago to Nassau next week for a wind surfing competition. Being self employed, you’ve got plenty of time to enjoy and employ your other passion in flying to Nassau – that being flying aboard different airlines and aircraft. To that end, you’ve found a great itinerary involving two enroute connections via three airlines, each operating a nonstop flight utilizing different twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer. All of the aircraft are configured in an all-economy class layout. No 757s are involved. Nor is US Air. From this, can you determine the complete routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types?
28. (1974) Next week, you and your wife will be flying from Seattle to Indianapolis to attend your daughter’s wedding to a nice young man whose family has lived in Indiana for over 150 years. Unfortunately there are no nonstop or even direct flights between Seattle and Indy but your travel agent has found you a convenient itinerary involving a single connection via two nonstop flights. Your wife wryly noted that the two airlines involved couldn’t be more opposite from one another. Can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types involved?
29. (1965) Life in Anchor Point, Alaska in 1965 is just heavenly. As such, the idea of traveling down to Los Angeles for a family reunion with the in-laws is none too palatable. Still, happy wife, happy life and your wife is definitely a keeper! You’ve found an interesting itinerary departing out of the nearest airport, located just a few miles down the road. It involves three flights on three airlines, with all of the aircraft built in Southern California by different manufacturers. The first flight has one enroute stop, the second is nonstop and the third has one enroute stop. So, can you break it all down? Airlines, route including enroute stops and the three aircraft types.
30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
2. (1986) It’s spring breakand this year you’re taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you’ll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there’s no way you’re making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
3. (1995) Who'd’ve thought Durango, Mexico was just a single connection via two nonstop flights away from Winnipeg, Canada? Not you! Two airlines will be involved, each operating a different aircraft type. Heck, you’ll even get a snack and lunch along the way. Compralo, Danno! Identify the two airlines, the connection point and the two aircraft types.
4. (1974) Family business has you traveling later this week between Ciudad Obregon, Mexico and your home base in Colorado Springs. The thought of traveling between these two secondary cities leads you to believe it will be a long and convoluted journey, but you’re pleased to discover that you can do so via just two flights – the first a one stopper to your connection point followed by a nonstop into Colorado Springs. Of course, two airlines are involved and each operates a different type of aircraft. Identify if you can all the usual stuff involved in these questions.
6. (1986) Business calls in the form of a sales presentation in Rockford, Illinois next week. From your home base in Philadelphia, you’ve found a convenient itinerary involving two nonstop flights on two different airlines. Both airlines will be operating the same equipment, and First Class is available on both flights. Book it, Danno. Please provide all the usual particulars.
8. (1974) This is gonna be fun! From your home in St. Louis, MO you’ll be flying to Montreal, Quebec where you’ll be boarding a riverboat for a two day cruise up the St. Laurence River to beautiful Quebec City. Your trip will involve three flights aboard three airlines, each of them operating equipment built by a different manufacturer. Two widebody jets will be flown. No non U.S. airlines will be flown. TWA will not be flown. Given these clues, can you determine the three airlines, the routing and the three aircraft types?
10. (1986) It’s vacation time again and this year you and the love of your life are off to San Juan, Puerto Rico. There are, however, a couple of caveats. First, she refuses to travel through New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport ever again. Second, if it can be arranged, she’d love to see what it would be like to travel in First Class. Happy wife, happy life - so you promise to see what you can do. Alas, there are no nonstops from anywhere in Canada to San Juan. However, with a little help from your travel agent sister, you think you’ve found a suitable option. You’ll depart out of Montreal’s Mirabel Airport on a one stop flight to a connection point where you’ll overnight before boarding a nonstop flight the next morning to San Juan. Two airlines will be involved, utilizing two different aircraft with a total of seven engines. Identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the aircraft types.
12. (1986) You’ve recently received an offer to invest in a new resort being built in Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. From your corporate headquarters in Mexico City, you’re surprised to find that you can fly to Puerto Plata via a single connection involving two nonstop flights. Both aircraft involved are built outside of the United States, though both are also built in the same country. Identify the airlines, the route and the two aircraft.
13. (1995) From the heat and humidity of the bayou to the cold dry air of the Canadian Arctic – you’re not sure if you should look forward to the change or try to find a way not to make this trip. Still, if things go well your business could make a lot of money. Additionally, you’ll be able to fly all the way from New Orleans to Yellowknife in a single day. And, you’ll even be served breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. You’ll start with a one stop flight direct to your connection point. Following a four hour layover, you’ll fly nonstop to Yellowknife. Two airlines – each flying a different type of aircraft – will be involved. Please identify the airlines, the routing including the enroute stop of the first flight and the two aircraft types involved.
15. (1965) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.
16. (1986) It’s April and you’re off to visit Death Valley National Park before it gets too hot! From your home in Kenosha, Wisconsin you’ve found a good deal departing from your closest airport. An online connection involving two nonstop flights aboard the same airline will be involved, with one of them being a widebody. The widebody flight will be the shortest distance one can fly a widebody into Las Vegas from any airport east of Las Vegas. A total of six engines will be employed on both jets, all of the engines supplied by the same manufacturer. Given these parameters, can you determine the airline, the two jet types to be flown and the connecting airport?
A N S W E R E D
17. (1986) If you want to fly in First Class on a through fare from Allentown, PA to Montreal, QB, only one airline can accommodate you via a single connection and two nonstop flights – both of them being operated with the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the routing and the aircraft type.
18. (1995) You’ll be flying from Hartford, Connecticut to Orlando, Florida next week. You try to place a call to Eastern Airlines only to find out they’re no longer flying. Whaaaaat?!! When did that happen? A quick call to your trusty travel agent reveals not one but FIVE different airlines operating nonstop between Hartford and Orlando. Even more amazing, each airline operates a jet type unique and different from each of the other four. Identify each of the five airlines and the aircraft type each operates. Complete guesses only please, meaning ALL five airlines and aircraft.
19. (1974 If in early 1974 you wanted to fly from the west coast of the U.S. all the way to Miami, Florida via only three nonstop DC-9-30 flights, there is only one possible way to do so. I know. I spent about an hour researching this question. Aside from one well known airline, DC-9-30 flights by US airlines are rare west of the Midwest. And, you can only do this trip eastbound. It doesn’t work westbound due to one airline’s choice of aircraft on a particular route. Anyway, three airlines are involved – as noted each operating nonstop flights. For you mathematically challenged types, that means there’ll be two connections. So – are you up for it? I’ll start you off with a hint: You’ll start from San Jose, California. Routing and airlines, please.
A N S W E R E D
20. (1965) Your favorite cousin’s getting married next month in Roanoke. From your home in San Diego, getting to Roanoke is gonna be quite a challenge. Fortunately your travel agent has found you an interesting itinerary involving three nonstop flights, each of them on different airlines utilizing three different aircraft types. However, each of the aircraft types was built by the same aircraft manufacturer. As an added bonus, you’ll be served dinner on the final leg into Roanoke. Can you identify the three airlines, routes and aircraft types?
A N S W E R E D
21. (1986) It’s been a great week of sun and fun on Maui. You almost hate to go home to Tucson, especially after the three flight nightmare you endured on the outbound trip. Thankfully the return looks much more promising – two nonstop flights via a single online connection. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types involved.
22. (1974) Your company has won a bid to install air conditioning in an office building being built in Culiacan, Mexico. From your headquarters in Nashville, Tennessee – this is going to involve a long day of flying. First, you’ll board a one-stop flight to Memphis. Next you’ll board a five stopper from Memphis to Mexico City. Finally, you’ll board a one stopper from Mexico City to Culiacan. Three airlines will be flown, all of them operating the same type and variant of aircraft. Identify each of the airlines, all of the enroute stops and the aircraft type common to each flight.
23. (1965) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1965, there were four states west of the Mississippi River that had scheduled flights with Lockheed Constellations of any variant. Identify the four states and, if you’re up for it, which state had the most airports served with Connies.
24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?
25. (1974) From one island paradise to another - This retirement gig is starting to look pretty good! You’ll depart Honolulu mid-morning aboard a one stop flight to your connection point where you’ll then board a nonstop to your second connection point. Following a three hour layover during which you’ll enjoy lunch with an old school chum, you’ll fly nonstop to Antigua. All flights will be aboard the same airline, but your final flight to Antigua will be on a different aircraft type than your first two flights. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types.
26. (1965) You are sat at the head of the runway, poised to take off aboard the only twin turbo jet powered aircraft in scheduled service out of San Francisco. There’s only one destination for this flight and the flight operates once daily. Identify the airline, aircraft type and destination
27. (1986) You need to fly from Chicago to Nassau next week for a wind surfing competition. Being self employed, you’ve got plenty of time to enjoy and employ your other passion in flying to Nassau – that being flying aboard different airlines and aircraft. To that end, you’ve found a great itinerary involving two enroute connections via three airlines, each operating a nonstop flight utilizing different twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer. All of the aircraft are configured in an all-economy class layout. No 757s are involved. Nor is US Air. From this, can you determine the complete routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types?
28. (1974) Next week, you and your wife will be flying from Seattle to Indianapolis to attend your daughter’s wedding to a nice young man whose family has lived in Indiana for over 150 years. Unfortunately there are no nonstop or even direct flights between Seattle and Indy but your travel agent has found you a convenient itinerary involving a single connection via two nonstop flights. Your wife wryly noted that the two airlines involved couldn’t be more opposite from one another. Can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types involved?
29. (1965) Life in Anchor Point, Alaska in 1965 is just heavenly. As such, the idea of traveling down to Los Angeles for a family reunion with the in-laws is none too palatable. Still, happy wife, happy life and your wife is definitely a keeper! You’ve found an interesting itinerary departing out of the nearest airport, located just a few miles down the road. It involves three flights on three airlines, with all of the aircraft built in Southern California by different manufacturers. The first flight has one enroute stop, the second is nonstop and the third has one enroute stop. So, can you break it all down? Airlines, route including enroute stops and the three aircraft types.
30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
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13. (1995) From the heat and humidity of the bayou to the cold dry air of the Canadian Arctic – you’re not sure if you should look forward to the change or try to find a way not to make this trip. Still, if things go well your business could make a lot of money. Additionally, you’ll be able to fly all the way from New Orleans to Yellowknife in a single day. And, you’ll even be served breakfast, lunch and dinner along the way. You’ll start with a one stop flight direct to your connection point. Following a four hour layover, you’ll fly nonstop to Yellowknife. Two airlines – each flying a different type of aircraft – will be involved. Please identify the airlines, the routing including the enroute stop of the first flight and the two aircraft types involved.
#13: Seems a UA 72S operating MSY-DEN-YYC would be a good candidate for the first flight. Then a CP 737 operating YYC-YZF?
A good guess, Herb - though per the schedule I reference, UA only had a couple flights per day to YYC - neither of them nonstop from Denver. In this case we're looking for two different airlines and routings, though it's no surprise that a 737-200 was indeed involved in part of the correct answer. We look forward to your next guess!
#13: Seems a UA 72S operating MSY-DEN-YYC would be a good candidate for the first flight. Then a CP 737 operating YYC-YZF?
A good guess, Herb - though per the schedule I reference, UA only had a couple flights per day to YYC - neither of them nonstop from Denver. In this case we're looking for two different airlines and routings, though it's no surprise that a 737-200 was indeed involved in part of the correct answer. We look forward to your next guess!
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2. (1986) It's spring break and this year you're taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you'll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there's no way you're making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. PA (this guess is partially based on their acquisition of National, which served both Baltimore and Orlando iirc)Incorrect!
4. AA (this replaces PE as my new weakest guess...but, at least I'm providing a complete answer
) Incorrect!
Way to dig in there, moondog! Think about airlines using BWI as a hub... In one instance major, in another minor... That should lead you to the two missing airlines...
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. PA (this guess is partially based on their acquisition of National, which served both Baltimore and Orlando iirc)Incorrect!
4. AA (this replaces PE as my new weakest guess...but, at least I'm providing a complete answer
) Incorrect!Way to dig in there, moondog! Think about airlines using BWI as a hub... In one instance major, in another minor... That should lead you to the two missing airlines...
4. TWA (I know they flew to a bunch of places, in addition to STL and MCI, from BWI...so maybe MCO was one of them)
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20. … Eastern … the aircraft of record was the Convair 440, which means the other two planes were the 880 and 990, which means this was my kind of itinerary:
Nicely done, J! You're almost there. All of your airlines and associated aircraft are correct! Where you've strayed askew is in one of your connection airports. I think you can quickly figure out which one, and I know I speak for us all (including the lurkers) when I say we eagerly anticipate your answer.
- SAN-ORD American 990
- ORD-PIT TWA 880
- PIT-ROA Eastern 440
Nicely done, J! You're almost there. All of your airlines and associated aircraft are correct! Where you've strayed askew is in one of your connection airports. I think you can quickly figure out which one, and I know I speak for us all (including the lurkers) when I say we eagerly anticipate your answer.
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2. (1986) It's spring break and this year you're taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you'll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there's no way you're making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
4. TWA (I know they flew to a bunch of places, in addition to STL and MCI, from BWI...so maybe MCO was one of them)
TWA is incorrect. The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
4. TWA (I know they flew to a bunch of places, in addition to STL and MCI, from BWI...so maybe MCO was one of them)
TWA is incorrect. The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
May 21, 2023, 11:03 pm
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20. … Eastern … the aircraft of record was the Convair 440, which means the other two planes were the 880 and 990, which means this was my kind of itinerary:
The first connection must have therefore been at JFK
Alas, it was not JFK. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Convair 990 never did fly transcontinental. Perhaps it did eastbound? In any case, it didn't do so per the correct answer to this question. Which means the connection point must've been
- SAN-ORD American 990
- ORD-PIT TWA 880
- PIT-ROA Eastern 440
The first connection must have therefore been at JFK
Alas, it was not JFK. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Convair 990 never did fly transcontinental. Perhaps it did eastbound? In any case, it didn't do so per the correct answer to this question. Which means the connection point must've been
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20- I don’t think TWA was running PHX-PIT nonstop in 1965, and I don’t recall AA operating SAN-STL … let’s try LAX
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16. (1986) It’s April and you’re off to visit Death Valley National Park before it gets too hot! From your home in Kenosha, Wisconsin you’ve found a good deal departing from your closest airport. An online connection involving two nonstop flights aboard the same airline will be involved, with one of them being a widebody. The widebody flight will be the shortest distance one can fly a widebody into Las Vegas from any airport east of Las Vegas. A total of six engines will be employed on both jets, all of the engines supplied by the same manufacturer. Given these parameters, can you determine the airline, the two jet types to be flown and the connecting airport?
19. (1974 If in early 1974 you wanted to fly from the west coast of the U.S. all the way to Miami, Florida via only three nonstop DC-9-30 flights, there is only one possible way to do so. I know. I spent about an hour researching this question. Aside from one well known airline, DC-9-30 flights by US airlines are rare west of the Midwest. And, you can only do this trip eastbound. It doesn’t work westbound due to one airline’s choice of aircraft on a particular route. Anyway, three airlines are involved – as noted each operating nonstop flights. For you mathematically challenged types, that means there’ll be two connections. So – are you up for it? I’ll start you off with a hint: You’ll start from San Jose, California. Routing and airlines, please.
19. Well, lets go with the "Top Banana in the West" for the departure from San Jose: Hughes Airwest with a nonstop DC-9-30 flight to Phoenix. And I do recall a quiz question awhile back concerning the westernmost destination served by Delta with the DC-9-30 back around this time: Phoenix. So we'll connect to Delta in PHX and fly nonstop to Dallas/Fort Worth. And for our third flight, I remember when Eastern was operating nonstop service from DFW to Miami so perhaps the equipment on the flight in question was a DC-9-30 as well.
May 22, 2023, 10:24 am
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20. … Eastern … the aircraft of record was the Convair 440, which means the other two planes were the 880 and 990, which means this was my kind of itinerary:
I don’t think TWA was running PHX-PIT nonstop in 1965, and I don’t recall AA operating SAN-STL … let’s try LAX
LAX is Correct! Here's the itinerary...
American AA 232 San Diego (SAN) 730a-759a Los Angeles (LAX) Convair 990 Daily
TWA Trans World TW 094 Los Angeles (LAX) 930a-445p L Pittsburgh (PIT) Convair 880 Daily
Eastern EA 737 Pittsburgh (PIT) 600p-709p D Roanoke (ROA) Convair 440 Daily
- SAN-ORD American 990
- ORD-PIT TWA 880
- PIT-ROA Eastern 440
I don’t think TWA was running PHX-PIT nonstop in 1965, and I don’t recall AA operating SAN-STL … let’s try LAX
LAX is Correct! Here's the itinerary...
American AA 232 San Diego (SAN) 730a-759a Los Angeles (LAX) Convair 990 Daily
TWA Trans World TW 094 Los Angeles (LAX) 930a-445p L Pittsburgh (PIT) Convair 880 Daily
Eastern EA 737 Pittsburgh (PIT) 600p-709p D Roanoke (ROA) Convair 440 Daily
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And yet another historical note in the annals of aviation....
Dassault Aviation is this month observing the 60th anniversary concerning the advent of its first business jet, the Mystere 20 which was later renamed the Falcon 20. And, of course, there is an airline connection here.....
At least one small U.S. based air carrier operated the Falcon 20 in scheduled passenger service.
Thus, a Bonus Question: Name that air carrier.
It wasn't Golden West or Ultimate Air Shuttle and neither of the airports served by the Falcon 20 was located in California. Hints: the air carrier in question operated four roundtrip flights with the Falcon 20 every weekday between just two U.S. airports. One of these airports was served by a number of airlines with mainline jets but the other airport was only served by the small air carrier we are looking for. And this service was being operated in 2001 quite a bit to the east of California. This passenger service wasn't flown between EWR and BKL or between MMU and DTW nor was it operated by a Falcon 20 freight operator. More hints: the service was operated between airports located in two major metropolitan areas, one of which is in the vicinity of New York City. And the name of the air carrier in question closely resembles the name of a large scheduled passenger airline that is currently operating mainline jet equipment in Asia.
Dassault Aviation is this month observing the 60th anniversary concerning the advent of its first business jet, the Mystere 20 which was later renamed the Falcon 20. And, of course, there is an airline connection here.....
At least one small U.S. based air carrier operated the Falcon 20 in scheduled passenger service.
Thus, a Bonus Question: Name that air carrier.
It wasn't Golden West or Ultimate Air Shuttle and neither of the airports served by the Falcon 20 was located in California. Hints: the air carrier in question operated four roundtrip flights with the Falcon 20 every weekday between just two U.S. airports. One of these airports was served by a number of airlines with mainline jets but the other airport was only served by the small air carrier we are looking for. And this service was being operated in 2001 quite a bit to the east of California. This passenger service wasn't flown between EWR and BKL or between MMU and DTW nor was it operated by a Falcon 20 freight operator. More hints: the service was operated between airports located in two major metropolitan areas, one of which is in the vicinity of New York City. And the name of the air carrier in question closely resembles the name of a large scheduled passenger airline that is currently operating mainline jet equipment in Asia.
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May 22, 2023, 10:43 am
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16. (1986) It’s April and you’re off to visit Death Valley National Park before it gets too hot! From your home in Kenosha, Wisconsin you’ve found a good deal departing from your closest airport. An online connection involving two nonstop flights aboard the same airline will be involved, with one of them being a widebody. The widebody flight will be the shortest distance one can fly a widebody into Las Vegas from any airport east of Las Vegas. A total of six engines will be employed on both jets, all of the engines supplied by the same manufacturer. Given these parameters, can you determine the airline, the two jet types to be flown and the connecting airport?
Wild guess time: Northwest operating a 727-200 from Milwaukee nonstop to Phoenix with a connection to a Northwest DC-10-40 in PHX on to Las Vegas. And, of course, both of these aircraft were powered by Pratt & Whitney turbofan engines.
Excellent guess, Sir.
Here's the itinerary -
Northwest NW 263 Milwaukee (MKE) 515p-745p D Phoenix (PHX) 727-200 Daily
Northwest NW 65 Phoenix (PHX) 925p-923p Las Vegas (LAS) DC-10-40 Daily
19. (1974 If in early 1974 you wanted to fly from the west coast of the U.S. all the way to Miami, Florida via only three nonstop DC-9-30 flights, there is only one possible way to do so. I know. I spent about an hour researching this question. Aside from one well known airline, DC-9-30 flights by US airlines are rare west of the Midwest. And, you can only do this trip eastbound. It doesn’t work westbound due to one airline’s choice of aircraft on a particular route. Anyway, three airlines are involved – as noted each operating nonstop flights. For you mathematically challenged types, that means there’ll be two connections. So – are you up for it? I’ll start you off with a hint: You’ll start from San Jose, California. Routing and airlines, please.
Well, lets go with the "Top Banana in the West" for the departure from San Jose: Hughes Airwest with a nonstop DC-9-30 flight to Phoenix. And I do recall a quiz question awhile back concerning the westernmost destination served by Delta with the DC-9-30 back around this time: Phoenix. So we'll connect to Delta in PHX and fly nonstop to Dallas/Fort Worth. And for our third flight, I remember when Eastern was operating nonstop service from DFW to Miami so perhaps the equipment on the flight in question was a DC-9-30 as well.
Way to flesh it all out! You are correct! on all three flights. Aside from Delta to PHX and RW's operations, the DC-9-30 was a rare bird in the west prior to deregulation. OZ and NC ran DC-9-30s into Denver and a couple years later Frontier had an interchange flight with Hughes Airwest SNA-LAS-DEN using RW's D9S but until deregulation, the formation of Republic Airlines and the CO/TI merger. we just didn't see many of the -30s.
Hughes Airwest RW 003 San Jose (SJC) 835a-1005a B Phoenix (PHX) DC-9-30 Daily
Delta Airlines DL 520 Phoenix (PHX) 1140a-335p L Dallas (DAL) DC-9-30 Daily
Eastern Airlines EA 523 Dallas (DAL) 515p-842p D Miami (MIA) DC-9-30 Daily
BONUS QUESTION: Name two other U.S. airlines that operated DC-9-30s west of Colorado prior to 1974
Wild guess time: Northwest operating a 727-200 from Milwaukee nonstop to Phoenix with a connection to a Northwest DC-10-40 in PHX on to Las Vegas. And, of course, both of these aircraft were powered by Pratt & Whitney turbofan engines.
Excellent guess, Sir.
Here's the itinerary -Northwest NW 263 Milwaukee (MKE) 515p-745p D Phoenix (PHX) 727-200 Daily
Northwest NW 65 Phoenix (PHX) 925p-923p Las Vegas (LAS) DC-10-40 Daily
19. (1974 If in early 1974 you wanted to fly from the west coast of the U.S. all the way to Miami, Florida via only three nonstop DC-9-30 flights, there is only one possible way to do so. I know. I spent about an hour researching this question. Aside from one well known airline, DC-9-30 flights by US airlines are rare west of the Midwest. And, you can only do this trip eastbound. It doesn’t work westbound due to one airline’s choice of aircraft on a particular route. Anyway, three airlines are involved – as noted each operating nonstop flights. For you mathematically challenged types, that means there’ll be two connections. So – are you up for it? I’ll start you off with a hint: You’ll start from San Jose, California. Routing and airlines, please.
Well, lets go with the "Top Banana in the West" for the departure from San Jose: Hughes Airwest with a nonstop DC-9-30 flight to Phoenix. And I do recall a quiz question awhile back concerning the westernmost destination served by Delta with the DC-9-30 back around this time: Phoenix. So we'll connect to Delta in PHX and fly nonstop to Dallas/Fort Worth. And for our third flight, I remember when Eastern was operating nonstop service from DFW to Miami so perhaps the equipment on the flight in question was a DC-9-30 as well.
Way to flesh it all out!
You are correct! on all three flights. Aside from Delta to PHX and RW's operations, the DC-9-30 was a rare bird in the west prior to deregulation. OZ and NC ran DC-9-30s into Denver and a couple years later Frontier had an interchange flight with Hughes Airwest SNA-LAS-DEN using RW's D9S but until deregulation, the formation of Republic Airlines and the CO/TI merger. we just didn't see many of the -30s.Hughes Airwest RW 003 San Jose (SJC) 835a-1005a B Phoenix (PHX) DC-9-30 Daily
Delta Airlines DL 520 Phoenix (PHX) 1140a-335p L Dallas (DAL) DC-9-30 Daily
Eastern Airlines EA 523 Dallas (DAL) 515p-842p D Miami (MIA) DC-9-30 Daily
BONUS QUESTION: Name two other U.S. airlines that operated DC-9-30s west of Colorado prior to 1974
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2. (1986) It's spring break and this year you're taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you'll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there's no way you're making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
4. TWA (I know they flew to a bunch of places, in addition to STL and MCI, from BWI...so maybe MCO was one of them)
TWA is incorrect. The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
4. TWA (I know they flew to a bunch of places, in addition to STL and MCI, from BWI...so maybe MCO was one of them)
TWA is incorrect. The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
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2. (1986) It's spring break and this year you're taking the family to Disney World. From your home in nearby Glen Burnie, Baltimore (BWI) would be the most convenient departure airport but you'll probably have to drive down to Washington to get a nonstop because there's no way you're making a connection with four kids! Imagine then your surprise and delight to learn that there are not one but FOUR airlines offering nonstop flights between Baltimore and Orlando. Only one of them offers First Class. Identify each of the four airlines as well as indicating which one offers First Class. Please submit only complete guesses containing all four airlines.
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
I'm going to toss Republic out there as a potential #4, but I don't like this answer, and I'm running out of ideas.
Here are some more hints - The airline we're looking for served two destinations across the Atlantic from Baltimore. The Orlando flight started in Honolulu, stopped on the coast and then had a "change of gauge" at BWI for the leg down to MCO
For this iteration, I propose the following:
1. EA, also my new first-class nominee (since EA was the "Official Airline of WDW" at the time, I am moving it up to #1) Correct!
2. US (I am keeping them, instead of Delta, because I know they still had many single-class airplanes in 1986) Correct!
3. Piedmont (I think BWI was a "major" hub for them) Correct!
The final airline we're looking for was quite a bit smaller than TWA, though they did serve a couple of international destinations from BWI in addition to MCO and a couple other domestic airports...
I'm going to toss Republic out there as a potential #4, but I don't like this answer, and I'm running out of ideas.
Here are some more hints - The airline we're looking for served two destinations across the Atlantic from Baltimore. The Orlando flight started in Honolulu, stopped on the coast and then had a "change of gauge" at BWI for the leg down to MCO