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Old May 27, 2023, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by moondog
30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.

jrl767 coached me on this next guess, so he deserves credit if it's correct, though I'm changing the airplane from a 727 to a 737 because 727s (and DC9s) have been excluded. I also want to confess that I didn't realize that the second flight needs to stop somewhere between the connection point and MSY.

Airline: AA
Connection point: RDU
En-route stop between RDU and MSY: BNA
Airplane: 737-200


Certainly sounds plausible, moondog, but a quick check of the 1986 schedules verified that while American did indeed serve both MDT and MSY, service into Harrisburg was through Chicago and there was no one-stop service with AA ORD-MDT. It's worth noting here that the aircraft involved was not built in the Pacific Northwest
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Old May 27, 2023, 11:20 am
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31. (1966) Business requires you to fly from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Wichita, Kansas next week. Only one airline serves this route, operating three daily flights. One flight is operated with piston engine equipment, one with turbo prop equipment and one with turbofan equipment. Identify the airline and the three different aircraft types utilized here.

So given the fact the timeline is 1966 and thus not 1965, I'll go with Continental operating the Douglas DC-9-10 in addition to the DC-6B and Vickers Viscount.

You got it, JL! Apologies for the typo!

Continental CO 793 Tulsa (TUL) 700a-747a B Wichita (ICT) DC-6
Continental CO 241 Tulsa (TUL) 940a-1020a Wichita (ICT) Viscount
Continental CO 143 Tulsa (TUL) 325p-401p Wichita (ICT) DC-9-10
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1. (1966) From your home base in Merida, Mexico you’ve received an offer to pick up a yacht in Curacao and deliver it to Punta Gorda, Florida. The offer is quite reasonable, so now the only question is how soon can you get there? You’ve found an attractive one stop flight to a connection point, followed by a nonstop flight to Curacao. Two airlines and two different aircraft are involved here. Identify them both as well as the routing please.

3. (1995) Who'd’ve thought Durango, Mexico was just a single connection via two nonstop flights away from Winnipeg, Canada? Not you! Two airlines will be involved, each operating a different aircraft type. Heck, you’ll even get a snack and lunch along the way. Compralo, Danno! Identify the two airlines, the connection point and the two aircraft types.

4. (1974) Family business has you traveling later this week between Ciudad Obregon, Mexico and your home base in Colorado Springs. The thought of traveling between these two secondary cities leads you to believe it will be a long and convoluted journey, but you’re pleased to discover that you can do so via just two flights – the first a one stopper to your connection point followed by a nonstop into Colorado Springs. Of course, two airlines are involved and each operates a different type of aircraft. Identify if you can all the usual stuff involved in these questions.

6. (1986) Business calls in the form of a sales presentation in Rockford, Illinois next week. From your home base in Philadelphia, you’ve found a convenient itinerary involving two nonstop flights on two different airlines. Both airlines will be operating the same equipment, and First Class is available on both flights. Book it, Danno. Please provide all the usual particulars.

10. (1986) It’s vacation time again and this year you and the love of your life are off to San Juan, Puerto Rico. There are, however, a couple of caveats. First, she refuses to travel through New York’s John F. Kennedy International Airport ever again. Second, if it can be arranged, she’d love to see what it would be like to travel in First Class. Happy wife, happy life - so you promise to see what you can do. Alas, there are no nonstops from anywhere in Canada to San Juan. However, with a little help from your travel agent sister, you think you’ve found a suitable option. You’ll depart out of Montreal’s Mirabel Airport on a one stop flight to a connection point where you’ll overnight before boarding a nonstop flight the next morning to San Juan. Two airlines will be involved, utilizing two different aircraft with a total of seven engines. Identify the two airlines, the complete routing and the aircraft types.

12. (1986) You’ve recently received an offer to invest in a new resort being built in Puerto Plata in the Dominican Republic. From your corporate headquarters in Mexico City, you’re surprised to find that you can fly to Puerto Plata via a single connection involving two nonstop flights. Both aircraft involved are built outside of the United States, though both are also built in the same country. Identify the airlines, the route and the two aircraft.

15. (1966) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.

17. (1986) If you want to fly in First Class on a through fare from Allentown, PA to Montreal, QB, only one airline can accommodate you via a single connection and two nonstop flights – both of them being operated with the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the routing and the aircraft type.

18. (1995) You’ll be flying from Hartford, Connecticut to Orlando, Florida next week. You try to place a call to Eastern Airlines only to find out they’re no longer flying. Whaaaaat?!! When did that happen? A quick call to your trusty travel agent reveals not one but FIVE different airlines operating nonstop between Hartford and Orlando. Even more amazing, each airline operates a jet type unique and different from each of the other four. Identify each of the five airlines and the aircraft type each operates. Complete guesses only please, meaning ALL five airlines and aircraft.

21. (1986) It’s been a great week of sun and fun on Maui. You almost hate to go home to Tucson, especially after the three flight nightmare you endured on the outbound trip. Thankfully the return looks much more promising – two nonstop flights via a single online connection. Identify the airline, the routing and the two aircraft types involved.

23. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, there were four states west of the Mississippi River that had scheduled flights with Lockheed Constellations of any variant. Identify the four states and, if you’re up for it, which state had the most airports served with Connies.

24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?

26. (1966) You are sat at the head of the runway, poised to take off aboard the only twin turbo jet powered aircraft in scheduled service out of San Francisco. There’s only one destination for this flight and the flight operates once daily. Identify the airline, aircraft type and destination

27. (1986) You need to fly from Chicago to Nassau next week for a wind surfing competition. Being self employed, you’ve got plenty of time to enjoy and employ your other passion in flying to Nassau – that being flying aboard different airlines and aircraft. To that end, you’ve found a great itinerary involving two enroute connections via three airlines, each operating a nonstop flight utilizing different twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer. All of the aircraft are configured in an all-economy class layout. No 757s are involved. Nor is US Air. From this, can you determine the complete routing, the three airlines and the three aircraft types?

29. (1966) Life in Anchor Point, Alaska in 1966 is just heavenly. As such, the idea of traveling down to Los Angeles for a family reunion with the in-laws is none too palatable. Still, happy wife, happy life and your wife is definitely a keeper! You’ve found an interesting itinerary departing out of the nearest airport, located just a few miles down the road. It involves three flights on three airlines, with all of the aircraft built in Southern California by different manufacturers. The first flight has one enroute stop, the second is nonstop and the third has one enroute stop. So, can you break it all down? Airlines, route including enroute stops and the three aircraft types.
A N S W E R E D

30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
It's not on a Boeing...

31. (1966) Business requires you to fly from Tulsa, Oklahoma to Wichita, Kansas next week. Only one airline serves this route, operating three daily flights. One flight is operated with piston engine equipment, one with turbo prop equipment and one with turbofan equipment. Identify the airline and the three different aircraft types utilized here.
A N S W E R E D

32. (1986) Indianapolis, Indiana sure is nice in the spring, but who wouldn’t jump at the chance to spend a week on the sun kissed beaches of Puerto Vallarta, Mexico? Alas, American and Continental are sold out through their respective hubs. Fortunately another option is available – one that will allow you to travel in First Class all the way via a single connection and two nonstop flights. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type and breakfast will be served on both flights. Identify all the usual particulars please.

33. (1974) You’re off to visit your Abuelita in San Antonio, Texas. From way up in Ketchikan, Alaska that’ll take you most of the day via three nonstop flights on three airlines – each operating the same type of airplane. Identify the three airlines, the two connecting points and the single aircraft type.

34. (1966) Your company recently won a contract to install upgrades to a power plant located outside Monterrey, Mexico. From your home office in Dayton, Ohio you imagine the journey down to Mexico will be a convoluted one at best. A call to your trusty travel agent results in an intriguing itinerary involving three nonstop flights, each of them on different airlines with each airline operating a different foreign built aircraft type. Identify all the usual particulars, por favor.
A N S W E R E D

35. (1974) Business takes you from Philadelphia to Halifax next week. Your company travel agent has found you a convenient schedule involving two airlines each operating a nonstop flight via a single connection. Both aircraft involved are foreign built. Please provide all the usual particulars…
A N S W E R E D

36. (1965) You are flying aboard the longest scheduled flight listed in the North American OAG to be operated with a Boeing 720. Identify the route and the airline

37. (1974) Ever since your first flight aboard a DC-10 backin December of 1972,you just love that airplane. The design, the huge windows, the sound of the big GE engines on takeoff… they all combine to create the ultimate flying experience - at least per your tastes and sensibilities. Tomorrow starts The Big Day – an orgy of DC-10 flights between Miami and Honolulu that will involve five nonstop flights aboard five different airlines. That means four connection points, one of which will be Chicago. Your onward flight to Honolulu will be aboard a foreign airline, because after a week in Hawaii, you’ll be continuing on to that airline’s home country. Of all the foreign carriers that stop in Honolulu as part of their U.S. services, this is the only airline that does so with the DC-10. So then, you’ve got a lot of flying tomorrow. Can you remember your routing and the five airlines involved between Miami and Honolulu? What's your international destination after Honolulu?

38. (1974) You’ve always felt that the more engines an airplane has, the safer it is. As such, for your upcoming trip from Fresno, CA to Orlando, FL, you’ve come up with an itinerary involving four airlines – each of them operating four engined aircraft – each of those built by a different manufacturers. Whaaaaat?! OMG! That’s way too difficult! Maybe for the lurkers – but for our core participants – no worries. Solve it and be the envy of the FlyerTalk community. Heck – you might even earn mention in the monthly FlyerTalk news release. Yeah – right… By the way, this trip will involve an overnight stopover in Miami.

39. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, four U.S. states had no jet service at all. Identify each of the four states. Only complete guesses naming all four states will be accepted.

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Old May 27, 2023, 12:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
33. (1974) You’re off to visit your Abuelita in San Antonio, Texas. From way up in Ketchikan, Alaska that’ll take you most of the day via three nonstop flights on three airlines – each operating the same type of airplane. Identify the three airlines, the two connecting points and the single aircraft type.
33- pretty clearly the first leg was on Alaska to Seattle/SEA, and the second was to Dallas/DFW, most likely on Braniff; that points to American for the final leg … the jet was a 727, and I suspect AS was more likely flying the -100 out of KTN

Originally Posted by Seat 2A
34. (1966) Your company recently won a contract to install upgrades to a power plant located outside Monterrey, Mexico. From your home office in Dayton, Ohio you imagine the journey down to Mexico will be a convoluted one at best. A call to your trusty travel agent results in an intriguing itinerary involving three nonstop flights, each of them on different airlines with each airline operating a different foreign built aircraft type. Identify all the usual particulars, por favor.
34- I’m having difficulty coming up with a third non-U.S.-built type that fits the routing requirement for three nonstop flights, but maybe Braniff sneaked a One-Eleven on one Chicago/ORD-to-Dallas/DAL trip … DAY-ORD was a United Caravelle, and DAL-MTY was a Mexicana Comet IV-C
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Old May 28, 2023, 12:10 am
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33. (1974) You’re off to visit your Abuelita in San Antonio, Texas. From way up in Ketchikan, Alaska that’ll take you most of the day via three nonstop flights on three airlines – each operating the same type of airplane. Identify the three airlines, the two connecting points and the single aircraft type.

Pretty clearly the first leg was on Alaska to Seattle/SEA, and the second was to Dallas/DFW, most likely on Braniff; that points to American for the final leg … the jet was a 727, and I suspect AS was more likely flying the -100 out of KTN

Alaska is correct for the first leg (Well uh, d'uh don't ya think?!) but otherwise we're looking for different airlines, routing and aircraft aside from the 727. If anyone can figgur this'n out, it's you J. Or... NO! Gasp! jlemon!. And, as always - don't make me call WHBM !

34. (1966) Your company recently won a contract to install upgrades to a power plant located outside Monterrey, Mexico. From your home office in Dayton, Ohio you imagine the journey down to Mexico will be a convoluted one at best. A call to your trusty travel agent results in an intriguing itinerary involving three nonstop flights, each of them on different airlines with each airline operating a different foreign built aircraft type. Identify all the usual particulars, por favor.

I’m having difficulty coming up with a third non-U.S.-built type that fits the routing requirement for three nonstop flights, but maybe Braniff sneaked a One-Eleven on one Chicago/ORD-to-Dallas/DAL trip … DAY-ORD was a United Caravelle, and DAL-MTY was a Mexicana Comet IV-C

You Da Man, jrl767!! I dunno know how to say that in Spanish, so English'll have to suffice. Great call though - you be 100% correct-a-mundo. As such, you've earned an op-upgrade to First Class all the way through

United UA 393 Dayton (DAY) 800a-900a B Chicago (ORD) Caravelle Daily
Braniff BN 219 Chicago (ORD) 1030a-1137a L Dallas (DAL) BAC-111 Daily
Mexicana MX 701 Dallas (DAL) 340p-505p
S Monterrey (MRY) Comet 4 X7

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Old May 28, 2023, 12:40 am
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33- first of all, let’s promote the jet to a 72S … yes AS had the 737-200, but there’s no workable combination of other operators and routes to get SEA-XXX-SAT

based on the fact that DFW isn’t in the picture, let’s try United to LAX, thence Continental

34-
you've earned an op-upgrade to First Class all the way through”

wouldn’t have been an upgrade on UA, as their Caravelles were in a 64F configuration

also, did MX even have a two-cabin config on the Comet?
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Old May 28, 2023, 11:15 am
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33. (1974) You’re off to visit your Abuelita in San Antonio, Texas. From way up in Ketchikan, Alaska that’ll take you most of the day via three nonstop flights on three airlines – each operating the same type of airplane. Identify the three airlines, the two connecting points and the single aircraft type.

First of all, let’s promote the jet to a 72S … yes AS had the 737-200, but there’s no workable combination of other operators and routes to get SEA-XXX-SAT. Based on the fact that DFW isn’t in the picture, let’s try United to LAX, thence Continental

LAX and Continental in their respective orders are correct in their respective orders. However, the aircraft was not a 727-200, which BTW Alaska did not acquire until the late 1970s

34. - “You've earned an op-upgrade to First Class all the way through” Wouldn’t have been an upgrade on UA, as their Caravelles were in a 64F configuration. Also, did MX even have a two-cabin config on the Comet?

You're correct on United's Caravelle. However, Mexicana Comets were configured for 22 first class and 64 tourist class passengers. More here-

https://www.cometra.uk/?page_id=19983

https://live.staticflickr.com/3810/1...2dec6ba2_b.jpg
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Old May 28, 2023, 12:26 pm
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33- not UA for SEA-LAX, so that says Western, so that says a 720B (which, even approaching the 10th anniversary of my first Quiz post, I must admit I just don’t associate with AS)
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Old May 28, 2023, 1:03 pm
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38. (1974) You’ve always felt that the more engines an airplane has, the safer it is. As such, for your upcoming trip from Fresno, CA to Orlando, FL, you’ve come up with an itinerary involving four airlines – each of them operating four engined aircraft – each of those built by a different manufacturers. Whaaaaat?! OMG! That’s way too difficult! Maybe for the lurkers – but for our core participants – no worries. Solve it and be the envy of the FlyerTalk community. Heck – you might even earn mention in the monthly FlyerTalk news release. Yeah – right… G’wan now! Solve it anyway!
38- ok, I’ll start by dissecting this into smaller pieces and then reassembling

Aircraft and candidate airlines
  • Lockheed Electra — Air Florida
  • Douglas DC8/D8S — United
  • Convair 880 — Delta
  • Boeing 707/720 — American, Braniff, Continental, Northwest, TWA, Western
  • Boeing 747 — American, Continental, National, TWA
Route segments
QH — MIA-MCO
UA — FAT-SFO/LAX; lots of others, but this was the only four-engine option at FAT

so we need to get LAX/SFO-MIA on a DL 880 and a Boeing jet

there wasn’t any other way to get to ATL besides Eastern, and as noted by their absence from the aircraft list they can’t be part of the answer

how about a standard 8 on FAT-LAX, the 880 to New Orleans/MSY, and a National 747 into MIA before the Electra
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30. (1986) Per your tastes at least, the world’s greatest party is the New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival, otherwise known as Jazz Fest. From your home in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania you’ve got several air travel options. Over the years, you’ve employed most of them including those from Allegheny and TWA. This year, you’re looking forward to a new routing and a different airline all the way through from MDT to MSY. You’ll fly nonstop to the connection point, then on to New Orleans via a one-stop flight. Both flights will be operated by the same aircraft type. Identify the airline, the complete routing and the aircraft type.
It's not on a Boeing...
Non-Boeing options at Harrisburg would have been very limited back then. Maybe USAir counts as a different airline from Allegheny, but this was before the Piedmont acquisition so they wouldn't have been flying through CLT/BWI at that point. I'll throw out a US BAC 111 MDT-PIT / PIT-ATL-MSY.
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39. (1966) A thorough perusal of the OAG has revealed that as of autumn 1966, four U.S. states had no jet service at all. Identify each of the four states. Only complete guesses naming all four states will be accepted.
I will throw out Delaware, Rhode Island, New Hampshire, and Vermont.
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Old May 29, 2023, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A

26. (1966) You are sat at the head of the runway, poised to take off aboard the only twin turbo jet powered aircraft in scheduled service out of San Francisco. There’s only one destination for this flight and the flight operates once daily. Identify the airline, aircraft type and destination

36. (1965) You are flying aboard the longest scheduled flight listed in the North American OAG to be operated with a Boeing 720. Identify the route and the airline.
Requesting clarification on both of the above, sir...

26. Turbojet or turbofan? If turbofan, I'll then guess West Coast with a DC-9-10 up to Oregon with nonstop service to Eugene and on to Portland.

36. Are you including the Boeing 720B? If so, let's go with Northwest nonstop between Seattle and Honolulu.
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And yet another historical note in the annals of aviation....

Dassault Aviation is this month observing the 60th anniversary concerning the advent of its first business jet, the Mystere 20 which was later renamed the Falcon 20. And, of course, there is an airline connection here.....

At least one small U.S. based air carrier operated the Falcon 20 in passenger service.

Thus, a Bonus Question: Name that air carrier.

It wasn't Golden West or Ultimate Air Shuttle or an airline by the name of Lionair. The air carrier in question was operating four roundtrip flights with the Falcon 20 every weekday in 2001 between just two U.S. airports, one of which was Chicago Midway. The other airport is located in the New York City area and was only served by the small air carrier we are looking for....but this airport wasn't EWR, MMU or FRG, and this passenger service wasn't operated by a Falcon 20 freight operator. The name of the air carrier in question very closely resembles the name of a large scheduled passenger airline that is currently operating mainline jet equipment in Asia.
Time to close this one out on a very warm and sunny Memorial Day morning....

The air carrier that operated Dassault Falcon 20 scheduled passenger service was Indigo. There is an airline based in India that has a very similar name: IndiGo, which reportedly currently operates a large number of Airbus aircraft in addition to ATR turboprops and has now apparently added the Boeing 777 to its fleet.

And there is also a company by the name of Indigo Partners LLC which has controlling interests in the current version of Frontier Airlines and also in a Chilean air carrier, JetSmart. In addition, Indigo Partners reportedly has stakes in Mexican air carrier Volaris as well as Wizz Air over in Europe. BTW, Bill Franke, the managing partner and co-founder of Indigo Partners, was formerly the Chairman and CEO of America West.

I do not believe the small air carrier which operated Falcon 20 service here in the U.S. had anything to do with either IndiGo or Indigo Partners.

Here is a link to a 2001 Indigo timetable listing Falcon 20 service nonstop between Chicago Midway (MDW) and Teterboro Airport (TEB) in the New York City area:

https://www.timetableimages.com/i-gj/i901a.jpg

The schedules for Indigo also appeared in the OAG. The carrier's two letter code was "I9" (that's i capitalized) and the OAG aircraft code for the Dassault Falcon 20 was "DF2".

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Originally Posted by Seat 2A
15. (1966) You’ve gotten wind of an intriguing business opportunity in Colorado and so need to fly from your home in Sioux Falls, SD to Denver. Alas, Western’s nonstop 720B is sold out and, given your size (6’3”, 255 lbs) you need a First Class seat. To that end, you’ve found a connection that should work. It involves two twin jets, each built by a different manufacturer and each offering a First Class cabin. The first flight makes one enroute stop to the connection point and dinner will be served. The second flight is nonstop into Denver. Book it, Danno! Airlines, routing and aircraft types, please.
15- I'll posit that we have a Braniff BAC 1-11 from FSD to Kansas City/MKC with a stop in Omaha/OMA, followed by a Continental DC-9-10 into DEN

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24. (1986) The Canadian capital of Ottawa is a lovely place to live, but after a particularly long and cold winter you can’t wait to commence your vacation next week at the famous Las Brisas Hotel in Acapulco, Mexico. As an added bonus, flying from Ottawa to Acapulco will involve only two nonstop flights on two different airlines via a single well timed connection. Two different aircraft types will be involved, both of them built by the same manufacturer. The aircraft are powered by different engine types, though each engine type is built by the same engine manufacturer. A total of six engines are involved. So armed with this plethora of clues can you identify the two airlines, the routing and the two aircraft types?
24- first guess here is Air Canada with a DC-9-30 to JFK, thence Aeromexico on a stretch DC-8
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30. Northwest DC-9. MDT-DTW-MEM-MSY
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