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Old Nov 30, 2017, 3:14 pm
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50. Identify each of the foreign built jetliners that fly into Port of Spain, Trinidad. Of course, the correct answer will also include the airline that operates each jet. And finally, because you are all such a smart bunch of participants, the correct answer will require you to submit ALL of the relevant aircraft. Picking them off one at a time will not be accepted. Go to it, guys!

As to the aircraft, let's just go ahead and list the "foreign" ones that I found...

VC10 (British Airways)
Caravelle (Air France)
BAC-111 (LIAT)
Not jetliners, of course, but I wouldn't be surprised to see Hawker Siddeley 748 and maybe even de Havilland Canada DHC-6 Twin Otter turboprop equipment on the ramp at Port of Spain back in 1973.....

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47. You’ve just finished a wonderful three day weekend with the family at Florida’s Disney World resort. Christmas break lasts two weeks however, so you’ve made plans to spend an additional four days in the Bahamas. You’re amazed to find that from the local airport there’s a two stop flight direct to Freeport. Identify the departure airport, the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft utilized.

Per jlemon: Eastern operating a DC-9-30 on a routing of Orlando (MCO) - Tampa (TPA) - Miami (MIA) - Freeport (FPO)

This is a bit of a trick question. To wit, for those visiting Disney World, there was another airport, even more local... And as such, another airline. One of the stops on the way to Freeport was however Orlando (MCO)

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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1995 POCKET FLIGHT GUIDE
34. Tired of shelling out the big bucks to Delta and American for your biannual trips between Dallas and Las Vegas, you take the advice of your neighbor Gertrude Kornblatt who recently returned from a trip to Vegas and raved about seeing Englebert Humperdink for the first time, not to mention the great low fare she paid to get there and back aboard two airlines that you’ve never heard of. On Gertie’s advice, you book a flight out on one airline and back on the other. One of the airlines operates just two days per week, one of which works well for your departure on Thursday morning. There’s even a snack served enroute. For the return flight, on Sunday, you’ll have a choice of two departures as the third flight doesn’t operate on Sunday. Identify the two airlines involved as well as the aircraft that each operates.
TranStar with an MD-80 and America West with a 737?


THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1991 OAG

37. Durango, Colorado and Durango, Mexico are each served by a single airline operating a single jet type from each airport to two different destinations. Identify the airline, the equipment and the two destinations served from each airport.
America West has been correctly identified as serving DRO from PHX and GJT with a 73S. Still waiting on Durango, Mexico...

How about Aero California with a DC-9-10 from Los Mochis and Guadalajara?


41. Only one airline offers jet service from Ft. Lauderdale to BOTH Freeport and Nassau. Identify the airline and the equipment used.
There's no shame in being wrong. Go ahead. Take an educated guess!

Bahamasair 737.
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34. Tired of shelling out the big bucks to Delta and American for your biannual trips between Dallas and Las Vegas, you take the advice of your neighbor Gertrude Kornblatt who recently returned from a trip to Vegas and raved about seeing Englebert Humperdink for the first time, not to mention the great low fare she paid to get there and back aboard two airlines that you’ve never heard of. On Gertie’s advice, you book a flight out on one airline and back on the other. One of the airlines operates just two days per week, one of which works well for your departure on Thursday morning. There’s even a snack served enroute. For the return flight, on Sunday, you’ll have a choice of two departures as the third flight doesn’t operate on Sunday. Identify the two airlines involved as well as the aircraft that each operates.
I will admit to looking this up since this has been out for a period of time:

Grand Airlines on a DC-9
America West on a 737-300

Never heard of Grand Airlines, so Anyone who flew them can comment on their service?
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47. You’ve just finished a wonderful three day weekend with the family at Florida’s Disney World resort. Christmas break lasts two weeks however, so you’ve made plans to spend an additional four days in the Bahamas. You’re amazed to find that from the local airport there’s a two stop flight direct to Freeport. Identify the departure airport, the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft utilized.

Per jlemon: Eastern operating a DC-9-30 on a routing of Orlando (MCO) - Tampa (TPA) - Miami (MIA) - Freeport (FPO)

This is a bit of a trick question. To wit, for those visiting Disney World, there was another airport, even more local... And as such, another airline. One of the stops was however Orlando (MCO)
47. Ah, we may be talking about the Walt Disney World Airport (DWS) here which I believe was also known as the Lake Buena Vista STOLport. This compact little airfield was constructed by the Disney folks. I also believe the air carrier we are looking for is Shawnee Airlines which operated DHC-6 Twin Otter equipment into DWS. I'll guess the routing was Walt Disney World (DWS) - Orlando (MCO) - Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - Freeport (FPO).

BTW, the Walt Disney World Airport has not been in operation for many years now but I believe that if one knows where to look the STOL runway is still visible.
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34. Tired of shelling out the big bucks to Delta and American for your biannual trips between Dallas and Las Vegas, you take the advice of your neighbor Gertrude Kornblatt who recently returned from a trip to Vegas and raved about seeing Englebert Humperdink for the first time, not to mention the great low fare she paid to get there and back aboard two airlines that you’ve never heard of. On Gertie’s advice, you book a flight out on one airline and back on the other. One of the airlines operates just two days per week, one of which works well for your departure on Thursday morning. There’s even a snack served enroute. For the return flight, on Sunday, you’ll have a choice of two departures as the third flight doesn’t operate on Sunday. Identify the two airlines involved as well as the aircraft that each operates.

Per Herb687: TranStar with an MD-80 and America West with a 737?

No Sir, but an excellent guess nonetheless, especially given America West's hub at LAS. (Did Transtar ever serve DFW?). We are still looking for two different airlines on this one though. Please guess again!

37. Durango, Colorado and Durango, Mexico are each served by a single airline operating a single jet type from each airport to two different destinations. Identify the airline, the equipment and the two destinations served from each airport.
America West has been correctly identified as serving DRO from PHX and GJT with a 73S. Still waiting on Durango, Mexico...

Per Herb687: How about Aero California with a DC-9-10 from Los Mochis and Guadalajara?

I'm with you on this, Herb - if I didn't know better, that is. The airline we're looking for operates a larger and newer aircraft than the "Baby Nine", and flies to two different cities - both of which begin with the same letter.

41. Only one airline offers jet service from Ft. Lauderdale to BOTH Freeport and Nassau. Identify the airline and the equipment used.

Per Herb687: Bahamasair 737

Why not? Bahamasair seems as good a choice as any, especially out of FLL/MIA. But no! We're looking for a US airline operating the largest aircraft in its fleet to both destinations. Please guess again, mon!
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24. Oceanside, CA is a beautiful place to live, but when it comes to flying back to Indianapolis to see the in-laws each year, it sure is a royal pain to have to drive up to LAX where the most convenient flights and lowest prices are generally found. Times have changed however, and this time for the better as there is a new one stop direct flight operating out of nearby Lindbergh Field in San Diego. Although you’ve never heard of the airline operating this flight, the price is quite affordable so you book a pair of seats for yourself and the missus. Identify the airline, the equipment and the single enroute stop.
Think de-regulation... It's not Midwest Express
24. An air carrier that was a child of deregulation.....well, perhaps this was an airline whose aircraft resembled flying billboards: Western Pacific. If so, the equipment was a B737-300 and the stop was the airline's initial hub, Colorado Springs (COS).
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34. Tired of shelling out the big bucks to Delta and American for your biannual trips between Dallas and Las Vegas, you take the advice of your neighbor Gertrude Kornblatt who recently returned from a trip to Vegas and raved about seeing Englebert Humperdink for the first time, not to mention the great low fare she paid to get there and back aboard two airlines that you’ve never heard of. On Gertie’s advice, you book a flight out on one airline and back on the other. One of the airlines operates just two days per week, one of which works well for your departure on Thursday morning. There’s even a snack served enroute. For the return flight, on Sunday, you’ll have a choice of two departures as the third flight doesn’t operate on Sunday. Identify the two airlines involved as well as the aircraft that each operates.

Per teddybear99: I will admit to looking this up since this has been out for a period of time:

Grand Airlines on a DC-9
America West on a 737-300

Never heard of Grand Airlines, so can anyone who flew them comment on their service?


Grand Airways is obscure enough that few if any might have identified them without outside assistance, but then working our way through these mysteries is part of the fun and of course contributes to the Discussion part of the OTAQ&D. That said, Grand Airways is indeed one of the airlines involved here, representing the one used on the return flight from Las Vegas to Dallas.

I believe Grand got its name from its early beginnings as an air taxi operator to the Grand Canyon. In the mid-nineties it added jets to its fleet - all DC-9s, at least one of which was a DC-9-30. From its hub at LAS it flew to DFW, IAH, OAK and Los Cabos (SJD). It wasn't around for long - I believe it filed for bankruptcy after only a year or two after acquiring the jets, i.e. 1995/96.

The other airline we're looking for was not America West, though HP did operate a single daily flight between these two cities. The real clue is that the airline I've referenced in this question operated DFW-LAS just two days per week. That in itself suggests that it wasn't a major.

So you're halfway there, Teddy. Good luck on the other half!
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47. You’ve just finished a wonderful three day weekend with the family at Florida’s Disney World resort. Christmas break lasts two weeks however, so you’ve made plans to spend an additional four days in the Bahamas. You’re amazed to find that from the local airport there’s a two stop flight direct to Freeport. Identify the departure airport, the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft utilized.

Per jlemon: Ah, we may be talking about the Walt Disney World Airport (DWS) here which I believe was also known as the Lake Buena Vista STOLport. This compact little airfield was constructed by the Disney folks. I also believe the air carrier we are looking for is Shawnee Airlines which operated DHC-6 Twin Otter equipment into DWS. I'll guess the routing was Walt Disney World (DWS) - Orlando (MCO) - Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - Freeport (FPO).

Did you work for Shawnee Airlines, jlemon?! Shawnee Airlines (WB) is correct! Here's the schedule:

Shawnee Airlines WB 268 Walt Disney World Airport (DWS) 235p-250p Orlando (MCO) 300p-420p Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) 430p-505p Freeport (FPO) DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter (DTO)

24. Oceanside, CA is a beautiful place to live, but when it comes to flying back to Indianapolis to see the in-laws each year, it sure is a royal pain to have to drive up to LAX where the most convenient flights and lowest prices are generally found. Times have changed however, and this time for the better as there is a new one stop direct flight operating out of nearby Lindbergh Field in San Diego. Although you’ve never heard of the airline operating this flight, the price is quite affordable so you book a pair of seats for yourself and the missus. Identify the airline, the equipment and the single enroute stop.
Think de-regulation... It's not Midwest Express

Per jlemon: An air carrier that was a child of deregulation.....well, perhaps this was an airline whose aircraft resembled flying billboards: Western Pacific. If so, the equipment was a B737-300 and the stop was the airline's initial hub, Colorado Springs (COS).

In 1995 this would indeed be Western Pacific (W7). Here's the schedule:

Western Pacific W7 314 San Diego (SAN) 1015a – 135p Colorado Springs (COS) 215p – 545p Indianapolis (IND) 737-300

Bonus Question 24B: Western Pacific "logojets" wore liveries promoting everything from casinos to car rental companies to a television show. Identify the two ski resorts that were promoted on two of Western Pacific's 737-300s.

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33. You’ve just finished a week studying the potential for future volcanic activity at La Soufriere volcano on the island of St. Lucia. Now it’s time to return home and take the kids on that long promised trip to Disney World and in particular a ride through the famous Space Mountain. Your wife will fly in with the kids on a nonstop flight from Albany, NY while you’ll utilize the services of a new airline operating nonstop from St. Lucia to Orlando. The well rounded quizee will correctly identify both of the airlines involved here and the respective equipment that each operates into Orlando. Partial answers will be summarily ignored. The aircraft involved were a 727-200 and a 737-200 respectively.
33- how about AirTran out of ALB with the 737, and Key Air out of SLU with the 72S

21- BWI-LAX, 1995, Sunday only, wide-body jet other than a TriStar ... was World Airways still operating scheduled services at this time? if so, this would have been a DC-10
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Grand Airways is obscure enough that few if any might have identified them without outside assistance, but then working our way through these mysteries is part of the fun and of course contributes to the Discussion part of the OTAQ&D. That said, Grand Airways is indeed one of the airlines involved here, representing the one used on the return flight from Las Vegas to Dallas.

I believe Grand got its name from its early beginnings as an air taxi operator to the Grand Canyon. In the mid-nineties it added jets to its fleet - all DC-9s, at least one of which was a DC-9-30. From its hub at LAS it flew to DFW, IAH, OAK and Los Cabos (SJD). It wasn't around for long - I believe it filed for bankruptcy after only a year or two after acquiring the jets, i.e. 1995/96.
Grand Airways also flew Las Vegas (LAS) - Phoenix (PHX) - Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) at one point. I remember seeing a Grand DC-9-30 at Houston Intercontinental but never got the chance to fly with them. The LAS-SJD service was listed as a charter flight in their timetable with connecting service from DFW, IAH and PHX.

I know the OAG (per the departedflights.com website) states they operated DC-9-10 aircraft; however, I'm not quite sure that's true. I do know from photos that they flew DC-9-31 and DC-9-32 equipment and also earlier operated Cessna 402 prop aircraft and Metro III commuter turboprops between LAS and Grand Canyon Airport (GCN).

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47. You’ve just finished a wonderful three day weekend with the family at Florida’s Disney World resort. Christmas break lasts two weeks however, so you’ve made plans to spend an additional four days in the Bahamas. You’re amazed to find that from the local airport there’s a two stop flight direct to Freeport. Identify the departure airport, the airline, the two enroute stops and the aircraft utilized.

Per jlemon: Ah, we may be talking about the Walt Disney World Airport (DWS) here which I believe was also known as the Lake Buena Vista STOLport. This compact little airfield was constructed by the Disney folks. I also believe the air carrier we are looking for is Shawnee Airlines which operated DHC-6 Twin Otter equipment into DWS. I'll guess the routing was Walt Disney World (DWS) - Orlando (MCO) - Fort Lauderdale (FLL) - Freeport (FPO).

Did you work for Shawnee Airlines, jlemon?! Shawnee Airlines (WB0 is correct! Here's the schedule:

Shawnee Airlines WB 268 Walt Disney World Airport (DWS) 235p-250p Orlando (MCO) 300p-420p Ft. Lauderdale (FLL) 430p-505p Freeport (FPO) DeHavilland DHC-6 Twin Otter (DTO)
Nope! But I did indeed work for three other commuter air carriers, all of which went broke. And I actually guessed the FLL stop!

I also remember this statement in the back of a 1972 Eastern Air Lines system timetable:

Air Commuter Service

For information purposes only.

Tampa and Orlando, Fla. to Walt Disney World

Shawnee Airlines serves Walt Disney World STOL Airport (short take off and landing aircraft) with daily round-trip service from Tampa and Orlando Airports. For schedules and reservations, call Shawnee Airlines.......or your nearest Eastern office.
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33. (1995) You’ve just finished a week studying the potential for future volcanic activity at La Soufriere volcano on the island of St. Lucia. Now it’s time to return home and take the kids on that long promised trip to Disney World and in particular a ride through the famous Space Mountain. Your wife will fly in with the kids on a nonstop flight from Albany, NY while you’ll utilize the services of a new airline operating nonstop from St. Lucia to Orlando. The well rounded quizee will correctly identify both of the airlines involved here and the respective equipment that each operates into Orlando. Partial answers will be summarily ignored.
The aircraft involved were a 727-200 and a 737-200 respectively.

Per jrl767: How about AirTran out of ALB with the 737, and Key Air out of SLU with the 72S

Air Tran is correct, operating a 737-200 on the ALB-MCO run. Key Air however is not the airline of record for this particular question. The airline we're looking for operated 727-200s configured for both First and Economy class service. Luncheon was offered on the flight from St. Lucia into Orlando.

After a long weekend judging crab cakes at the annual Chesapeake Bay Food & Grog Festival, it’s time to relocate across the country to Los Angeles where your next challenge will be teaching a seminar in gourmet tamale creation at a senior living community center in West Covina. US Air offers three nonstop flights on the BWI-LAX market most days, but the best timed of the three – a 4:45pm departure – doesn’t operate on Sunday. Dagnabbit! A quick check of your trusty Pocket Flight Guide reveals however a pleasant surprise in the form of a once weekly widebody departing Baltimore at 5:15pm, arriving LAX at 7:30pm. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and the aircraft operating this flight.

Per jrl767: BWI-LAX, 1995, Sunday only, wide-body jet other than a TriStar ... was World Airways still operating scheduled services at this time? If so, this would have been a DC-10

I'm with you, J - World and its DC-10-30 would've been my first guess - if, that is, I didn't know better via my trusty pocket flight guide. As such, we're looking for a different airline operating an aircraft not built in Long Beach, California. Please - guess again!

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THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1995 POCKET FLIGHT GUIDE

21. After a long weekend judging crab cakes at the annual Chesapeake Bay Food & Grog Festival, it’s time to relocate across the country to Los Angeles where your next challenge will be teaching a seminar in gourmet tamale creation at a senior living community center in West Covina. US Air offers three nonstop flights on the BWI-LAX market most days, but the best timed of the three – a 4:45pm departure – doesn’t operate on Sunday. Dagnabbit! A quick check of your trusty Pocket Flight Guide however reveals a pleasant surprise in the form of a once weekly Sunday only wide body flight departing Baltimore at 5:15pm, arriving LAX at 7:30pm. Book it, Danno! Identify the airline and the aircraft operating this flight.
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Bonus Question 24B: Western Pacific "logojets" wore liveries promoting everything from casinos to car rental companies to a television show. Identify the two ski resorts that were promoted on two of Western Pacific's 737-300s.

33. You’ve just finished a week studying the potential for future volcanic activity at La Soufriere volcano on the island of St. Lucia. Now it’s time to return home and take the kids on that long promised trip to Disney World and in particular a ride through the famous Space Mountain. Your wife will fly in with the kids on a nonstop flight from Albany, NY while you’ll utilize the services of a new airline operating nonstop from St. Lucia to Orlando. The well rounded quizee will correctly identify both of the airlines involved here and the respective equipment that each operates into Orlando.
Air Tran 737-200 has been correctly identified as the ALB-MCO carrier. The other airline operated a 727-200 offering FYBQM fares and a luncheon enroute..

34. Tired of shelling out the big bucks to Delta and American for your biannual trips between Dallas and Las Vegas, you take the advice of your neighbor Gertrude Kornblatt who recently returned from a trip to Vegas and raved about seeing Englebert Humperdink for the first time, not to mention the great low fare she paid to get there and back aboard two airlines that you’ve never heard of. On Gertie’s advice, you book a flight out on one airline and back on the other. One of the airlines operates just two days per week, one of which works well for your departure on Thursday morning. There’s even a snack served enroute. For the return flight, on Sunday, you’ll have a choice of two departures as the third flight doesn’t operate on Sunday. Identify the two airlines involved as well as the aircraft that each operates.
The LAS-DFW airline has been identified as Grand Airways using a DC-9-10. The other airline still operates today but no longer operates the aircraft type utilized here.



THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1991 OAG

37. Durango, Colorado and Durango, Mexico are each served by a single airline operating a single jet type from each airport to two different destinations. Identify the airline, the equipment and the two destinations served from each airport.
America West has been correctly identified as serving DRO from PHX and GJT with a 73S. Still waiting on Durango, Mexico... The other airline was not Aero California...

41. Only one airline offers jet service from Ft. Lauderdale to BOTH Freeport and Nassau. Identify the airline and the equipment used.
A N S W E R E D



THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS ARE SOURCED FROM A 1973 OAG

49. Only one airline offers a single thrice weekly direct flight between Georgetown, Guyana and Miami. Three stops are made enroute. Identify the airline, the enroute stops and the aircraft used.
HINT: It's not KLM

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50. Identify each of the foreign built jetliners that fly into Port of Spain, Trinidad. Of course, the correct answer will also include the airline that operates each jet. And finally, because you are all such a smart bunch of participants, the correct answer will require you to submit ALL of the relevant aircraft. Picking them off one at a time will not be accepted. Go to it, guys!

Per jrl767: Well, to be perfectly literal, any jet flying into POS would be "foreign built" but I will limit my guesses to jets built in the United Kingdom, France, and the Soviet Union ... VC-10 (BOAC), Caravelle (Air France), IL-62 (Aeroflot and Cubana)

Boy, I really messed up on this one. First off, you are indeed correct regarding Trinidad's aircraft industry, which so far as I know has yet to even attain "fledgling" status. Secondly, I should have mentioned that my source is a full sized 1973 North American OAG, so if Aeroflot flew in there nonstop from anywhere outside the scope of the NA edition, I would be unaware of that. Finally, although Cubana and Guyana Airways have served Port of Spain with Russian built equipment, I don't recall seeing any evidence of that in the OAG I reference. I am flying home today however and so will double check this upon my return tonight.
A subsequent check of the 1973 North American OAG shows no service from Havana to Port of Spain. In fact, the only regional service shown out of Havana is Cubana's IL-18 flight to Mexico City.
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