jrl767

safe and enjoyable travels!

I have a handful of 1966 itinerary questions that I proposed (and subsequently withdrew) a few months ago ...

Seat 2A

Sounds good, J :TU: A set of your questions should easily get us through the next month.

As for the rest a youse, if you're interested in presenting some questions it's easy enough to do your own research. Be it airline, aircraft or airport history, it just requires putting in some time on the internet and searching out the information. It'd be nice to get some additional variety here, especially since amongst all of you I am probably the least qualified to be presenting questions. But hey - there you go. If I can do it, anybody can do it.

jrl767

You have this thing about two stops. Flying from Point A to Point B, you always try to pass through Points C and D en route. Of course it’s better when you can connect at both, and on longer trips, you’ll look to put two – or even three – two-stop flights together. So here we go; it’s the spring of 1966.

1- After two months in Amarillo, you’re looking forward to the upcoming long weekend with friends at the historic Columbia Gorge Hotel before starting a seven-week project outside Vancouver. You’ve booked a pair of two-stop flights, each on a different airline and aircraft type, with a 7am departure on Saturday and a 4pm arrival at the nearest major airport. Please identify both airlines, both aircraft, both stops on each flight in order, and the connecting point. Also indicate anything unique about either flight.

2A- As the project is winding down, you receive invitations to three consecutive breakfast meetings to discuss follow-on efforts. The first is on Wednesday at the field office in Billings; the second is with a consultant in Chicago on Thursday; and the third is at the Boston home office on Friday. Naturally, you’re delighted to see that you can keep your two-stop routine in place for the entire cross-country trip. On the first day, each flight involves a different airline and a different aircraft type, and you’ll even have time for a beer or two and dinner with a college buddy in the airport where you change airlines. Further perusing the first airline’s timetable, you realize you can start with an earlier flight (on yet a different type) to one of the intermediate stops and have lunch at that airport (presuming, of course, that you’ll actually find a restaurant or bar in what’s sure to be a fairly small building) before picking up the original flight. Please identify both airlines, all three equipment types, and all stops in sequence.

2B, 2C- Both the second and third days are straightforward: a direct two-stop flight, each on a distinct airline and jet. As usual, please list the airline, the aircraft, and the stops in order for each flight.

3A- A month later, as you’re enjoying your second Bloody Mary and struggling with the Sunday crossword, a frantic-sounding project manager from the Newark office calls. The courier service just delivered the wrong drawing package for her client’s Monday morning visit. Can you somehow get the right files to Newark in time? Well, your Monday tickets are in your attache case, and your calendar has been blocked for months -- an early flight for a breakfast meeting with a Dartmouth professor to talk about a potential consulting arrangement, with further talks and tours of the research labs in the afternoon. Then you're supposed to proceed on the same airline to an airport near Long Island University, site of a 730pm welcome reception for a two-and-a-half-day symposium. Please identify the airline, both equipment types, the airport serving the Dartmouth campus, your arrival airport in the New York metropolitan area, and of course the intermediate stop on the southbound flight.

3B- Your first thought is to switch your morning flight to a NYC departure, so you could simply check into the conference hotel tonight. Bummer, no two-stop trip today; it's a 1045am arrival, meaning it'll be a down-and-back by train and/or the Eastern shuttle. Or not! Here’s a nonstop to EWR, and a late evening one-stop on another carrier and aircraft type, back to BOS. The airlines, the aircraft, and the stop on the return flight, please.

3C- A few minutes later the phone rings again. Wait, what? She needs the Denison University folio, but has the Rutgers University one? Dang it, where’s a map? Where’s the OAG? Okay, here’s a workable single-carrier itinerary – but it's 13 brutal hours. The project manager agrees to meet you at a major airport, about an hour’s drive from Newark, where you’ll be disembarking from a direct First Class dinner flight (making, of course, two stops). Your return trip leaves just over four hours later -- plenty of time to review the files and have what will certainly be a much-needed drink -- and gets you back to Logan before sunrise; it involves two different jets, with the first flight making an intermediate stop before the connecting point. Please identify the airline, all aircraft types, the meetup airport, and all stops in order.

4- Following the symposium closing session, you’re headed to Mexico City. You certainly could have picked the simple same-plane two-stop itinerary, but you found a much more interesting option that involves two airlines, two aircraft types, and an unusual connecting point. It also arrives at the far-less-inconvenient hour of 955pm rather than shortly before midnight. You know the drill: we’re looking for the departure airport, the airlines, the equipment, and both enroute airports. Bonus points, of course, for the info for the direct flight.

Seat 2A

Thanks for getting the ball rolling, J

You have this thing about two stops. Flying from Point A to Point B, you always try to pass through Points C and D en route. Of course it’s better when you can connect at both, and on longer trips, you’ll look to put two – or even three – two-stop flights together. So here we go; it’s the spring of 1966.

1- After two months in Amarillo, you’re looking forward to the upcoming long weekend with friends at the historic Columbia Gorge Hotel before starting a seven-week project outside Vancouver. You’ve booked a pair of two-stop flights, each on a different airline and aircraft type, with a 7am departure on Saturday and a 4pm arrival at the nearest major airport. Please identify both airlines, both aircraft, both stops on each flight in order, and the connecting point. Also indicate anything unique about either flight.

Well, I'll open with what seems to me a somewhat obvious choice:

TWA Convair 880 Amarillo - Albuquerque - Las Vegas - San Francisco
Connecting to
West Coast Airlines DC-9 San Francisco - Medford - Eugene - Portland

jrl767

1- well, unfortunately the ball rolled right under your glove
as excellent a guess as you offered, it's entirely INCORRECT in terms of airlines, equipment, enroute stops, and connecting point (although the actual itinerary did involve both a four-engine and a twin-engine aircraft)

moondog

Apologies for interjecting a single question here midstream, but the guest quiz master at our trivia night is an FT guy, and he posed the following question:

Which airline is a flag carrier for 3 different countries? (Try to avoid using Google, if possible, because that's against the pub's rules.)

Bluehen1

SAS - Norway, Sweden, and Denmark

Seat 2A

YVR Cockroach

So while we are at it, which airlines were

1. flag carrier for 2 different countries.
2. flag carriers for what eventually became 2 different countries - answered
2A. flag carrier for what eventually became 2 different countries (and is still the flag carrier for one of the countries)
3. flag carrier for what eventually became at least 5-6 countries - answered
4. flag carrier for what eventually became well over a dozen countries - answered

2 sets of answers for the following question:
Flag carrier for one political country and it still the flag carrier of an expanded (or reunified) country. Name the flag carrier of the other now-subsumed country. 1 set of questions answered. Looking for the other airlines and countries.

jrl767

2- CSA (Czechoslovakia split into the Czech Republic and Slovakia)
3- JAT (Yugoslavia split into Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Slovenia, Montenegro, and North Macedonia)

jrl767

1- hmm ... not so fast about "only" out of AMA ... you have the generic aircraft sequence (two-engine followed by four-engine) correct, but I'm afraid that's it

YVR Cockroach

However, I just realised that there is actually another airline that was a flag carrier for what eventually became two countries, and is still the flag carrier for one of the new countries. New questions added to the post.

WHBM

Aeroflot.

I think every country which broke away from the Soviet Union in 1991 started their own airline, although not all survive. Most, possibly all, were based on the onetime Aeroflot Directorate for their own republic, broken away with whatever from the Aeroflot fleet happened to be allocated there at the time.

YVR Cockroach

WHBM

OK, bonus question.

Who can name the (15) airlines that emerged initially in 1991 from the breakup of Aeroflot across the republics.