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Old May 22, 2020, 2:43 am
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14. (1980) If you wanted to arrive into Miami on board a Lockheed L-188 Electra nonstop from an international location at this time, what airline would you call and where would you depart from?
It wasn't Aerocondor, Ecuatoriana, Sunjet International or COPA and the flight did not originate in Colombia, Ecuador, Panama or the Caribbean.


Trial and error will eventually pay off. Let's try SAHSA (Stay At Home, Stay Alive) flying out of Tegoocheegawlpa, Honduras

21. Now it's 1989 and you are back in Vancouver. Friends in Palm Springs have invited you to a party at their home and you've found a flight from YVR down to PSP that fits your schedule with this service making one stop en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the aircraft.

This sounds a lot like Air Cal. I would've figured more stops, but if there's only one, let's go with SFO using a 737-300.
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Old May 22, 2020, 3:01 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon

17. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? It wasn't Avianca nor was the aircraft a 747
I've been trying to come up with another South American carrier that fits but not getting anywhere, though it will probably turn out to be the right track.
Iberia didn't have A300s until a year later. I do remember IB using DC-10s to LHR but always assumed it was a Madrid flight.

So, let's get another wrong answer out of the way:

Iberia and a DC-10
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Old May 22, 2020, 9:41 am
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14. (1980) If you wanted to arrive into Miami on board a Lockheed L-188 Electra nonstop from an international location at this time, what airline would you call and where would you depart from?
It wasn't Aerocondor, Ecuatoriana, Sunjet International or COPA and the flight did not originate in Colombia, Ecuador, Panama or the Caribbean.


Trial and error will eventually pay off. Let's try SAHSA (Stay At Home, Stay Alive) flying out of Tegoocheegawlpa, Honduras

21. Now it's 1989 and you are back in Vancouver. Friends in Palm Springs have invited you to a party at their home and you've found a flight from YVR down to PSP that fits your schedule with this service making one stop en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the aircraft.goo

This sounds a lot like Air Cal. I would've figured more stops, but if there's only one, let's go with SFO using a 737-300.
14. Nope! But you are now quite bit closer, geographically speaking, as this flight did originate in Teegoocheegawlpa, Honduras (TGU) but then made two intermediate stops before arriving in Miami. So we are looking for that second stop where the flight then departed nonstop to MIA.

21. Nope, nope and nope! However, you are definitely on the right track.....

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Old May 22, 2020, 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by KT550
I've been trying to come up with another South American carrier that fits but not getting anywhere, though it will probably turn out to be the right track.
Iberia didn't have A300s until a year later. I do remember IB using DC-10s to LHR but always assumed it was a Madrid flight.

So, let's get another wrong answer out of the way:

Iberia and a DC-10
17. Ah, it wasn't Iberia and the aircraft wasn't a DC-10. Please guess again, sir! And here's a hint: this flight did not originate in South America.

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Old May 22, 2020, 10:09 am
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As always, please limit your response to two quiz items per day so that all may participate. And complete answers are requested as well.

4. It's 1967. A successful business presentation in the Hong Kong office of a marine transportation company operating a fleet of oil supertankers has now led to a request for a follow-up meeting at the company's corporate headquarters in Athens. So off you go in first class on a Friday morning on board a flight from Hong Kong to Athens which will make three stops en route. Name the air carrier, all three stops in order and the aircraft type.

9. Now it's 1968 and you are back in Aruba. You need to travel to the New York City area once again on business....but this time it would be much more convenient to arrive into Newark Airport as your meeting will take place in Perth Amboy. One airline can get you there via a quick 30 minute connection....however, both flights, which are operated with the same type of aircraft, only offer all-coach single class service. Your first flight from Aruba operates nonstop to your connecting city and the second flight to Newark makes one intermediate stop en route. Identify the air carrier, the connecting city, the stop made by the second flight and the equipment.

10. In 1973, this airline ran a print ad introducing its new DC-10 aircraft which it called the "Big Ten". Name the air carrier. And here's a hint: the airline in question was not based in the U.S. ANSWERED

13. It's 1979 and you are in Honolulu. You need to travel to the London area and would prefer to arrive into Heathrow as your meeting will take place in Windsor. One airline can get you there with a connection....but the connection only works three days a week. Fortunately, the schedule works for you with your first flight departing HNL in the evening nonstop to your connecting city where you will have two and one-half hours to connect with time for a shower and breakfast before boarding your second flight which will make one intermediate stop en route to LHR. Each flight operates with a different aircraft type. So with all this in mind, identify the air carrier, the connecting city, the stop made by the second flight and the equipment operated on each flight. ANSWERED

The next two quiz items both have a time line of 1980.......

14. If you wanted to arrive into Miami on board a Lockheed L-188 Electra nonstop from an international location at this time, what airline would you call and where would you depart from? It wasn't Aerocondor, Ecuatoriana, Sunjet International, COPA or SAHSA. The flight originated in Honduras.

17. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? ANSWERED - BA with an L-1011

20. You are in Atlanta in 1987 and are on your way to Calgary. Your flight operates six days a week, makes one stop en route and you have just taken your seat in first class. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment. ANSWERED

21. Now it's 1989 and you are back in Vancouver. Friends in Palm Springs have invited you to a party at their home and you've found a flight from YVR down to PSP that fits your schedule with this service making one stop en route. Identify the airline, the stop and the aircraft. ANSWERED

22. In 1993, this air carrier operating nonstop service between Miami and two destinations in South America ran a print ad including these statements:

Offering First Class Service at Economy Fares! (Airline) daily schedule is served by a (equipment) specially configured as a one-class aircraft carrying 98 passengers in business class seats, two on each side. A host of trained cabin attendants serve the finest selection of complimentary champagne, wine and liqueurs accompanied by gourmet cuisine served on china and linen with a silverware setting. Other amenities include an open bar, in-flight movies and music, complimentary flight kit and gifts for the children.....

Identify the airline, the equipment and the two cities in South America served nonstop from Miami by this air carrier.

24. In 1995, three airlines were operating nonstop service from Providenciales in the Turks & Caicos Islands to Miami. Two of these air carriers operated different types of jet equipment while the third operated a turboprop aircraft. Identify all three airlines and the respective aircraft types they operated from PLS to MIA. ANSWERED
Moving along quite smartly here......

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Old May 22, 2020, 10:30 am
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20. You are in Atlanta in 1987 and are on your way to Calgary. Your flight operates six days a week, makes one stop en route and you have just taken your seat in first class. Name the air carrier, the stop and the equipment.
20- Delta acquired Western and their Salt Lake City (SLC) hub in early 1987 ... I can't really see a wide-body (DL 767 or L10, or ex-WA D10) on this route, and the 733s didn't make their way into the eastern part of the network (other than the ex-WA routes SLC-BOS/JFK/IAD) for quite a while thereafter, so a 727-200 makes the most sense

I had already maxed out my two questions for yesterday and didn't stay up until 0015 to submit for today ...
21- my guess for YVR-XXX-PSP was going to be Alaska with a 727-200 via San Jose (SJC)

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Old May 22, 2020, 10:40 am
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20- Delta acquired Western and their Salt Lake City (SLC) hub in early 1987 ... I can't really see a wide-body (DL 767 or L10, or ex-WA D10) on this route, and the 733s didn't make their way into the eastern part of the network (other than the ex-WA routes SLC-BOS/JFK/IAD) for quite a while thereafter, so a 727-200 makes the most sense

I had already maxed out my two questions for yesterday and didn't stay up until 0015 to submit for today ...
21- my guess for YVR-XXX-PSP was going to be Alaska with a 727-200 via San Jose (SJC)
20. Nope, it wasn't Delta, the stop was not made at Salt Lake City and the aircraft wasn't a B727-200.

21. Nope, it wasn't Alaska and the aircraft wasn't a B727-200.......however, the flight in question did stop at SJC.
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Old May 22, 2020, 10:50 am
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20- well, that's a bit of a surprise ... let's try Northwest with a DC-9-30 (or -40; both were coded D9S) via Minneapolis
21- actually, American had integrated the former OC (AirCal/Air California) routes and the SJC hub into its network by 1989 ... how about a MadDog (MD-80) for this trip
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Old May 22, 2020, 11:02 am
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20- well, that's a bit of a surprise ... let's try Northwest with a DC-9-30 (or -40; both were coded D9S) via Minneapolis
21- actually, American had integrated the former OC (AirCal/Air California) routes and the SJC hub into its network by 1989 ... how about a MadDog (MD-80) for this trip
20. Nope, it wasn't Northwest, the aircraft wasn't a DC9 of any type and the flight did not stop in MSP.

21. Correct! Here's the sched......

AA 299: Vancouver (YVR) 7:00a - 9:15a San Jose (SJC) 9:58a - 11:09a Palm Springs (PSP)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal service: Breakfast YVR-SJC
Equip: MD-80

American was also operating nonstop service to Palm Springs from Chicago with three daily flights as well as nonstop service from Dallas/Fort Worth with two daily flights in late 1989, all operated with the MD-80, while American Eagle operated by Wings West was operating eight a flights a day from LAX with the Metro III propjet.
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20- one more go at ATL-XXX-YYC, where we initially ruled out a 727-200 but not the -100 ... AC never operated the standard variant; AA, BN, EA, and TW never served YYC; and (as usual) UA via Denver/DEN is too obvious ... Continental had shifted their hub from DEN to Houston/IAH, and was carrying a lot of oil-related traffic between Texas and Alberta, so this seems like a not-at-all-unreasonable guess
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Old May 22, 2020, 1:17 pm
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20- one more go at ATL-XXX-YYC, where we initially ruled out a 727-200 but not the -100 ... AC never operated the standard variant; AA, BN, EA, and TW never served YYC; and (as usual) UA via Denver/DEN is too obvious ... Continental had shifted their hub from DEN to Houston/IAH, and was carrying a lot of oil-related traffic between Texas and Alberta, so this seems like a not-at-all-unreasonable guess
20. Correct! Here's the complete sched which included a code share flight operated by Pacific Western from Calgary to Edmonton Municipal Airport located near the downtown area....

CO 497: Atlanta (ATL) 7:55a - 8:48a Houston Intercontinental (IAH) 9:30a - 12:32p Calgary (YYC) 2:30p - 3:10p Edmonton Municipal (YXD)
Freq: Daily except Sundays ATL-IAH, Daily IAH-YYC-YXD
Service classes: F/Y ATL-YYC, Y YYC-YXD
Equip: B727-100 ATL-YYC, B737-200 YYC-YXD
Note: CO 497 YYC-YXD operated by Pacific Western with change of aircraft from CO 727 to PW 73S at YYC

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Old May 22, 2020, 1:46 pm
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17. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? It wasn't Avianca or Iberia nor was the aircraft a 747 or DC-10. Hint: this flight did not originate in South America.

Once a week and it didn't originate in South America. I can't think of any scheduled British DC-10 operators and it's hard to imagine a non-British European airline operating this. Once a week suggests the possibility of a non-European airline exercising its fifth freedom rights. Let's try Turkish Airlines

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Old May 22, 2020, 3:34 pm
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17. If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on? It wasn't Avianca or Iberia nor was the aircraft a 747 or DC-10. Hint: this flight did not originate in South America.

Once a week and it didn't originate in South America. I can't think of any scheduled British DC-10 operators and it's hard to imagine a non-British European airline operating this. Once a week suggests the possibility of a non-European airline exercising its fifth freedom rights. Let's try Turkish Airlines
17. Ah, we've already ruled out the DC-10 and the airline in question wasn't Turkish. And the air carrier we are looking for was (and still is) based in Europe.
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17.

Maybe something as bizarre as BA running a L-1011 (on a weekend day).
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Old May 22, 2020, 4:07 pm
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If you wanted to fly nonstop into London Heathrow from Barcelona on board a wide body aircraft, you could do so but only once a week. What air carrier would you call and what type of aircraft would you be flying on?
It wasn't Avianca or Iberia nor was the aircraft a 747 or DC-10. Hint: this flight did not originate in South America
Could it be as simple as BA once a week put a Tristar instead of the normal Trident on the run ?
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