Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
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btw, that’s a nice photoshop job; would have really been a pretty slick look on a 72S
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With that hint, I'm going to go with something more circuitous and guess DTW since it was a big AA station back in the day. Anyone else remember that big AA-themed quilt that used to hang near the AA gates at DTW?
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DTW is incorrect
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2. As the Boston effort is wrapping up, you start looking into ways to get to your next project in Monterey TN, and are pleased to find a direct Saturday evening flight into the closest major airport. Please identify the airline, equipment, all three stops in order, and the destination airport.
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is not a BAC 1-11 "400 Astrojet" ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA
Could the missing stop be Columbus in between Cleveland and Cincinnati?
btw, that’s a nice photoshop job; would have really been a pretty slick look on a 72S
I would think they would slide the paint on the Nacelles of the Engines as well
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is not a BAC 1-11 "400 Astrojet" ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA
Could the missing stop be Columbus in between Cleveland and Cincinnati?
btw, that’s a nice photoshop job; would have really been a pretty slick look on a 72S
I would think they would slide the paint on the Nacelles of the Engines as well
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2- As the Boston effort is wrapping up, you start looking into ways to get to your next project in Monterey TN, and are pleased to find a direct Saturday evening flight into the closest major airport. Please identify the airline, equipment, all three stops in order, and the destination airport.
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH or DTW
So the answer's a bit of a surprise and Columbus is close... Well Cleveland was a United hub back then and with the exception of New York state, just about all of the big east coast cities were United territory. I just don't see anything outside of New York state. Then again, maybe we're going at this the wrong way, i.e. the extra stop comes after Cleveland. As such, let's go with a routing of BOS-CLE-CVG-SDF-BNA
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH or DTW
So the answer's a bit of a surprise and Columbus is close... Well Cleveland was a United hub back then and with the exception of New York state, just about all of the big east coast cities were United territory. I just don't see anything outside of New York state. Then again, maybe we're going at this the wrong way, i.e. the extra stop comes after Cleveland. As such, let's go with a routing of BOS-CLE-CVG-SDF-BNA
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2- As the Boston effort is wrapping up, you start looking into ways to get to your next project in Monterey TN, and are pleased to find a direct Saturday evening flight into the closest major airport. Please identify the airline, equipment, all three stops in order, and the destination airport.
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH or DTW
So the answer's a bit of a surprise and Columbus is close... Well Cleveland was a United hub back then and with the exception of New York state, just about all of the big east coast cities were United territory. I just don't see anything outside of New York state. Then again, maybe we're going at this the wrong way, i.e. the extra stop comes after Cleveland. As such, let's go with a routing of BOS-CLE-CVG-SDF-BNA
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH or DTW
So the answer's a bit of a surprise and Columbus is close... Well Cleveland was a United hub back then and with the exception of New York state, just about all of the big east coast cities were United territory. I just don't see anything outside of New York state. Then again, maybe we're going at this the wrong way, i.e. the extra stop comes after Cleveland. As such, let's go with a routing of BOS-CLE-CVG-SDF-BNA
and as for the 72S, I was on N864AA in Oct 1978 ... ORD-CVG, en route to a week of technical training on the GE CF6-50 engine as part of my introduction to work on 747 Propulsion Staff shortly after hiring in at Boeing
however, the photoshop isn't 100% accurate ... it's missing the two "eyebrow" windows for the flight deck
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2- As the Boston effort is wrapping up, you start looking into ways to get to your next project in Monterey TN, and are pleased to find a direct Saturday evening flight into the closest major airport. Please identify the airline, equipment, all three stops in order, and the destination airport.
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH, SDF or DTW
The second stop indeed comes after CLE, but it's not SDF ... or CVG, for that matter, so it should be fairly evident now
Well now, I don't see AA heading over to Indianapolis from Cleveland, so we're left with Dayton, Ohio - the Birthplace of Aviation (Although the first flight was in Kitty Hawk, NC, their Wright Flyer was built in and returned to Dayton for improvements.) The routing then would be BOS-CLE-DAY-CVG-BNA on a 727 of indeterminate variant, but definitely not N864AA as it wasn't delivered until 1977.
AA into Nashville/BNA ~ Equipment is 727 ~ Stops are CLE, CVG ~ Stops are not LGA, PHL, DCA, BUF, CMH, SDF or DTW
The second stop indeed comes after CLE, but it's not SDF ... or CVG, for that matter, so it should be fairly evident now
Well now, I don't see AA heading over to Indianapolis from Cleveland, so we're left with Dayton, Ohio - the Birthplace of Aviation (Although the first flight was in Kitty Hawk, NC, their Wright Flyer was built in and returned to Dayton for improvements.) The routing then would be BOS-CLE-DAY-CVG-BNA on a 727 of indeterminate variant, but definitely not N864AA as it wasn't delivered until 1977.
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With regard to the photoshopped 727, there is an amazing amount of well done fantasy liveries out on the internet, be it photoshop or via simulator. Here are a couple more to consider, the first via photoshop, the second via simulator
Continental DC-8-62
Braniff International 737-627
And, for our pals across the pond...
British Airways 717-200
Continental DC-8-62
Braniff International 737-627
And, for our pals across the pond...
British Airways 717-200
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Let me have a run at this one. Columbus to Boston, 1969, the obvious carrier is TWA. But maybe that's too easy, there are probably too many stops as well. So who else ? I can't think of another main line carrier that would do. Mohawk never got to Columbus I believe, so what about Allegheny ? Both aircraft types ? I think that would mean a DC-9 and a Convair 580.
4 stops from Columbus, not a lot of DC-9s in the Allegheny fleet in 1969, I think that's the Convair. Which way ? Columbus-Pittsburgh-Harrisburg-Baltimore-Hartford-Boston. Something like that.
4 stops changing at No 2 ? Starts on a DC-9, Columbus-Pittsburgh-Philadelphia. Change there to a Convair. Philadelphia-Hartford-Providence-Boston.
4 stops from Columbus, not a lot of DC-9s in the Allegheny fleet in 1969, I think that's the Convair. Which way ? Columbus-Pittsburgh-Harrisburg-Baltimore-Hartford-Boston. Something like that.
4 stops changing at No 2 ? Starts on a DC-9, Columbus-Pittsburgh-Philadelphia. Change there to a Convair. Philadelphia-Hartford-Providence-Boston.
Allegheny is correct
direct flight:
- Convair 580 is correct
- Pittsburgh/PIT is correct
- Harrisburg/MDT is correct
- Baltimore/BAL is incorrect
- Hartford/BDL is incorrect
connecting itinerary:
- DC-9 is incorrect
- PIT is again incorrect
- Philadelphia is incorrect
- BDL is again incorrect
- Providence/PVD is partially correct
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Well now, I don't see AA heading over to Indianapolis from Cleveland, so we're left with Dayton, Ohio - the Birthplace of Aviation (Although the first flight was in Kitty Hawk, NC, their Wright Flyer was built in and returned to Dayton for improvements.) The routing then would be BOS-CLE-DAY-CVG-BNA on a 727 of indeterminate variant, but definitely not N864AA as it wasn't delivered until 1977.
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I'm not sure where all my memorabilia and logs from that era are at the moment but that tail number sounds quite familiar. I think it was N864AA which operated AA's final 727 revenue flight (TPA-MIA on 30 Apr 2002).
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At various times it was the team plane for the Arizona Coyotes NHL hockey team, the Dallas Stars NHL hockey team and the Texas Rangers baseball team. I was unable to find any pictures of it wearing the livery of its current owner, but I thought it looked quite fetching wearing the livery of the Texas Rangers. Check it out -
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Time to start taking a swing at the first part of question 3 in the 1969 quiz.
Direct Flight 1: AA Convair 990 BNA-DAL-SAN-LAX
Direct Flight 2: AA 727 BNA-MEM-LIT-GSW-LAX
Flight 1: DL DC9 TYS-CHA-ATL
Flight 2: DL DC8 ATL-LAX
3- Friends have invited you to join them over Mother’s Day weekend in Long Beach before you return to Columbus. From your arrival airport, the earliest direct service to LAX the morning you need to depart is a two-stop flight that arrives at 7am (which translates to a 3am departure), and the next one (on the same airline, but a different type of jet) is a three-stop that doesn’t arrive until almost 1230pm. Surprisingly, the Eastern Airlines flight to Atlanta is sold out that morning, and more surprisingly Delta doesn’t serve the departure city at all.
Looking at the second closest airport to Monterey (less than 10 miles farther away), you find an early DL flight that connects to their 1030am ATL-LAX. It has an enroute stop, so you figure that it’ll be pretty much a wash to drive to ATL. A conversation with the rental car company reveals that the additional 130-some miles to ATL, along with a higher drop charge, will add over $100 to your total, so you book the two connecting Delta flights.
You call your friends back to advise them of your 1140am arrival time, and are stunned to learn that the rendezvous is actually in Long Beach, WA.
3A- Please identify the airline, equipment types, and all stops in sequence on the two direct flights.
Looking at the second closest airport to Monterey (less than 10 miles farther away), you find an early DL flight that connects to their 1030am ATL-LAX. It has an enroute stop, so you figure that it’ll be pretty much a wash to drive to ATL. A conversation with the rental car company reveals that the additional 130-some miles to ATL, along with a higher drop charge, will add over $100 to your total, so you book the two connecting Delta flights.
You call your friends back to advise them of your 1140am arrival time, and are stunned to learn that the rendezvous is actually in Long Beach, WA.
3A- Please identify the airline, equipment types, and all stops in sequence on the two direct flights.
Direct Flight 2: AA 727 BNA-MEM-LIT-GSW-LAX
3B- Please identify the originating airport, the intermediate stop, and the two equipment types for the DL trip.
Flight 2: DL DC8 ATL-LAX
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1- It’s mid January and you are about to embark on a ten-week project in the Boston area. From your home near Columbus OH, you can take a direct flight with four stops and arrive shortly before 10pm. The same airline also offers a four-stop option that departs CMH an hour earlier; you’ll begin on a one-stop flight aboard a different aircraft type to a connecting city, where you’ll catch a two-stop flight (on the first type) to BOS and arrive a few minutes before 9pm.
1A- Please identify the airline, all four stops in sequence, and the equipment for the direct flight.
1B- Please identify both aircraft types, the connecting city, and all stops in order.
Allegheny is correct
Direct flight:
Connecting itinerary: We'll have a go at this later. I'm too busy right now on a railroad site...
1A- Please identify the airline, all four stops in sequence, and the equipment for the direct flight.
1B- Please identify both aircraft types, the connecting city, and all stops in order.
Allegheny is correct
Direct flight:
- Convair 580 is correct
- Pittsburgh/PIT is correct
- Harrisburg/MDT is correct
- Based upon my experience via two Unlimited Mileage Liberty Fares, let's try Newark/EWR
- Outside of Hartford, the only stop that seems feasible is Providence/PVD and since you mentioned it was partially correct, let's try it here
Connecting itinerary: We'll have a go at this later. I'm too busy right now on a railroad site...
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