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Apr 6, 2020, 7:17 am

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31. Braniff on a DC8 via DFW and LAS.

50. I recall Air Canada doing seasonal service out of Toronto with this plane before retiring it in 1996.

31. Correct! Here's the sched....

BN 705: Miami (MIA) 10:00a - 11:50a Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 12:20p - 12:50p Las Vegas (LAS) 1:20p - 2:30p Sacramento (SMF)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Snack MIA-DFW, Lunch DFW-LAS, Snack LAS-SMF
Equip: DC8

50. YVR Cockroach beat you to the punch with a correct answer.....see above.

Apr 6, 2020, 7:27 am

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I think this is Reeve Aleutian, and the destination, as I'm not going to look it up (probably can't anyway), is likely one of the far west Alaskan islands. It probably did charters as well on the intervening days. My hunch would be that it would be to some rough & ready gravel strip destination where they could not get hull insurance on the aircraft, hence not sending one of their more valuable turboprops, a reason why old DC-6s etc long carried on in Alaska.

26. Yes indeed, it was Reeve Aleutian. So now we are looking for the destination served nonstop by this flight from Anchorage.....and this destination was also served at this time by Reeve Aleutian with its Lockheed L-188 Electra and NAMC YS-11 turboprop equipment and I believe this airport did have a paved runway in 1976.

Plus, the Douglas DC-6 flight in question actually operated a "triangle" routing of ANC - ___ - ___ - ANC.....so bonus points shall be forthcoming if both stops are identified.

Apr 6, 2020, 7:55 am

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OK, found it. 6 May 1958, start of London-New York-San Francisco BOAC Britannia 300 service. It ran overnight transatlantic, continuing across the USA early next morning. Twice weekly initially. So was this actually the first turbine service to the western USA, as Continental's timetable states they were starting Viscount service on 28 May ?

The Continental timetable (see post # 18256) as well as Jon Proctor both state that CO began operating "Viscount II" service on May 28, 1958. So it appears that BOAC was indeed "first in the west" with scheduled turboprop service.

Perhaps Bob Six & company at Continental simply overlooked this at the time......

Apr 6, 2020, 8:45 am

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Ahhh, so he did. I didn't see it, as I was answering from the initial questions, but I also added the route. I used to live in Fort Myers and my father was in the lodging business doing long term rentals and he would get many Canadians in from right after Thanksgiving until late February/mid March. He had transportation arranged from the airport to the beach area where many stayed as well as driving some up to Sanibel or down to Naples.

Apr 6, 2020, 9:44 am

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41. In 1985, this U.S. based airline was offering a discounted service at "bargain rates in Coach" linking four cities in the east as well as Chicago with four cities on the west coast. The flights operated at night and a connection was required at a city located between the eastern U.S. and the west coast. Snacks and beverages were offered on these flights but one had to pay for them. And in addition, checked baggage was not allowed which meant all passengers were limited with regard to carry-on luggage. Identify the air carrier that offered these flights, the name it used to market the service and the airport where all of the connections were made.

This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.

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43. Now you are in Indianapolis and are off to southern California. You've got a meeting to attend in Rancho Cucamonga and are surprised to find a direct flight to the closest airport to the office you are heading to in that interesting little city (which just happens to have a lovely view of Mt. Baldy which at 10,064 feet is the highest peak in the San Gabriel mountain range). The flight you will be on operates daily, makes two stops, and you have a seat in first class. Identify the air carrier, both stops, the airport you will arrive into in southern California and the aircraft.

The arrival airport is definitely Ontario (ONT). Just guessing here but I will go with a UA 722 routing IND-DEN-SFO-ONT.

Apr 6, 2020, 9:49 am

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33. Name the air carrier that ran this print ad in 1981:

We own more 747s than United, American and TWA combined. At ____(airline)____, we invest our money where it counts, such as in better aircraft. We own outright all of our 747s.....

33. Northwest Orient

Apr 6, 2020, 10:43 am

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41. This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.

43. The arrival airport is definitely Ontario (ONT). Just guessing here but I will go with a UA 722 routing IND-DEN-SFO-ONT.

41. Eastern with its "Moonlight Special" service is correct....but surprisingly, the connecting airport involved in this low fare effort by EA wasn't Kansas City (MCI).

43. Yep, Ontario (ONT) is the airport we are looking for.....however, the airline wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the flight in question did not stop at Denver or San Francisco.

Please guess again, sir!

Apr 6, 2020, 10:45 am

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33. Northwest Orient

33. Correct! Here's the Northwest Orient print ad which appeared in 1981.......

NWmore747s81a

Apr 6, 2020, 11:19 am

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41. In 1985, this U.S. based airline was offering a discounted service at "bargain rates in Coach" linking four cities in the east as well as Chicago with four cities on the west coast. The flights operated at night and a connection was required at a city located between the eastern U.S. and the west coast. Snacks and beverages were offered on these flights but one had to pay for them. And in addition, checked baggage was not allowed which meant all passengers were limited with regard to carry-on luggage. Identify the air carrier that offered these flights, the name it used to market the service and the airport where all of the connections were made.

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This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.

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41. Eastern with its "Moonlight Special" service is correct....but surprisingly, the connecting airport involved in this low fare effort by EA wasn't Kansas City (MCI).

41- um, isn't this sort of a "gimme"? see highlight in original q

in Jan 86 I flew LAX-ORD on an Eastern A300 for something like $49 ... as I was boarding (carrying a pilot's black bag adorned with with a bunch of Boeing Flight Test stickers and a name tag saying "Flight Crew Member"), one of the pilots was standing by the forward galley and asked if I worked for Boeing Flight Test; I said I had for a few years, he asked if I knew his former Navy squadron mate, I said yes, we even played recreational soccer together in Seattle ... we kept chatting by the flight deck door until the FA started to get antsy about final cabin prep ... there were maybe 50 pax on board, no more than four or five in F; I sat down in 3A and she never batted an eye

Apr 6, 2020, 11:32 am

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41- um, isn't this sort of a "gimme"? see highlight in original quote.....

41. Nope, no freebies here as the connecting airport wasn't Chicago O'Hare (ORD) or Chicago Midway (MDW)........

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41- I seem to remember EA running a number of flights thru Omaha (OMA) around this time ...

Apr 6, 2020, 11:38 am

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The aircraft vs car names may be better if split off into a separate thread

Apr 6, 2020, 11:45 am

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43. Yep, Ontario (ONT) is the airport we are looking for.....however, the airline wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the flight in question did not stop at Denver or San Francisco.

How about an AA MD-80 routing IND-DFW-PSP-ONT?

Apr 6, 2020, 11:57 am

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41- I seem to remember EA running a number of flights thru Omaha (OMA) around this time ...

41. Nope, the connecting airport for Eastern's "Moonlight Special" service wasn't Omaha (OMA).......

Apr 6, 2020, 12:00 pm

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How about an AA MD-80 routing IND-DFW-PSP-ONT?

43. A great guess! And several airlines operated PSP - ONT or ONT - PSP tag routes over the years....

However, it wasn't American, the aircraft wasn't an MD-80 and the flight did not stop at Dallas/Fort Worth or Palm Springs.