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Old Apr 6, 20, 7:17 am
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Originally Posted by teddybear99 View Post
31. Braniff on a DC8 via DFW and LAS.

50. I recall Air Canada doing seasonal service out of Toronto with this plane before retiring it in 1996.
31. Correct! Here's the sched....

BN 705: Miami (MIA) 10:00a - 11:50a Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 12:20p - 12:50p Las Vegas (LAS) 1:20p - 2:30p Sacramento (SMF)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Snack MIA-DFW, Lunch DFW-LAS, Snack LAS-SMF
Equip: DC8

50. YVR Cockroach beat you to the punch with a correct answer.....see above.
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Old Apr 6, 20, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
I think this is Reeve Aleutian, and the destination, as I'm not going to look it up (probably can't anyway), is likely one of the far west Alaskan islands. It probably did charters as well on the intervening days. My hunch would be that it would be to some rough & ready gravel strip destination where they could not get hull insurance on the aircraft, hence not sending one of their more valuable turboprops, a reason why old DC-6s etc long carried on in Alaska.


26. Yes indeed, it was Reeve Aleutian. So now we are looking for the destination served nonstop by this flight from Anchorage.....and this destination was also served at this time by Reeve Aleutian with its Lockheed L-188 Electra and NAMC YS-11 turboprop equipment and I believe this airport did have a paved runway in 1976.

Plus, the Douglas DC-6 flight in question actually operated a "triangle" routing of ANC - ___ - ___ - ANC.....so bonus points shall be forthcoming if both stops are identified.
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Old Apr 6, 20, 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by WHBM View Post
OK, found it. 6 May 1958, start of London-New York-San Francisco BOAC Britannia 300 service. It ran overnight transatlantic, continuing across the USA early next morning. Twice weekly initially. So was this actually the first turbine service to the western USA, as Continental's timetable states they were starting Viscount service on 28 May ?
The Continental timetable (see post # 18256) as well as Jon Proctor both state that CO began operating "Viscount II" service on May 28, 1958. So it appears that BOAC was indeed "first in the west" with scheduled turboprop service.

Perhaps Bob Six & company at Continental simply overlooked this at the time......
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Old Apr 6, 20, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
31. Correct! Here's the sched....

BN 705: Miami (MIA) 10:00a - 11:50a Dallas/Fort Worth (DFW) 12:20p - 12:50p Las Vegas (LAS) 1:20p - 2:30p Sacramento (SMF)
Freq: Daily
Service classes: F/Y
Meal services: Snack MIA-DFW, Lunch DFW-LAS, Snack LAS-SMF
Equip: DC8

50. YVR Cockroach beat you to the punch with a correct answer.....see above.
Ahhh, so he did. I didn't see it, as I was answering from the initial questions, but I also added the route. I used to live in Fort Myers and my father was in the lodging business doing long term rentals and he would get many Canadians in from right after Thanksgiving until late February/mid March. He had transportation arranged from the airport to the beach area where many stayed as well as driving some up to Sanibel or down to Naples.
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Old Apr 6, 20, 9:44 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
41. In 1985, this U.S. based airline was offering a discounted service at "bargain rates in Coach" linking four cities in the east as well as Chicago with four cities on the west coast. The flights operated at night and a connection was required at a city located between the eastern U.S. and the west coast. Snacks and beverages were offered on these flights but one had to pay for them. And in addition, checked baggage was not allowed which meant all passengers were limited with regard to carry-on luggage. Identify the air carrier that offered these flights, the name it used to market the service and the airport where all of the connections were made.
This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.

43. Now you are in Indianapolis and are off to southern California. You've got a meeting to attend in Rancho Cucamonga and are surprised to find a direct flight to the closest airport to the office you are heading to in that interesting little city (which just happens to have a lovely view of Mt. Baldy which at 10,064 feet is the highest peak in the San Gabriel mountain range). The flight you will be on operates daily, makes two stops, and you have a seat in first class. Identify the air carrier, both stops, the airport you will arrive into in southern California and the aircraft.
The arrival airport is definitely Ontario (ONT). Just guessing here but I will go with a UA 722 routing IND-DEN-SFO-ONT.
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Old Apr 6, 20, 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post

33. Name the air carrier that ran this print ad in 1981:

We own more 747s than United, American and TWA combined. At ____(airline)____, we invest our money where it counts, such as in better aircraft. We own outright all of our 747s.....
33. Northwest Orient
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Old Apr 6, 20, 10:43 am
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Originally Posted by Herb687 View Post
41. This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.

43. The arrival airport is definitely Ontario (ONT). Just guessing here but I will go with a UA 722 routing IND-DEN-SFO-ONT.
41. Eastern with its "Moonlight Special" service is correct....but surprisingly, the connecting airport involved in this low fare effort by EA wasn't Kansas City (MCI).

43. Yep, Ontario (ONT) is the airport we are looking for.....however, the airline wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the flight in question did not stop at Denver or San Francisco.

Please guess again, sir!
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Originally Posted by teddybear99 View Post
33. Northwest Orient
33. Correct! Here's the Northwest Orient print ad which appeared in 1981.......

NWmore747s81a
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:19 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
41. In 1985, this U.S. based airline was offering a discounted service at "bargain rates in Coach" linking four cities in the east as well as Chicago with four cities on the west coast. The flights operated at night and a connection was required at a city located between the eastern U.S. and the west coast. Snacks and beverages were offered on these flights but one had to pay for them. And in addition, checked baggage was not allowed which meant all passengers were limited with regard to carry-on luggage. Identify the air carrier that offered these flights, the name it used to market the service and the airport where all of the connections were made.
Originally Posted by Herb687 View Post
This has to be Eastern's "hub" at MCI. I believe these EA flights were branded as Moonlight Special.
Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
41. Eastern with its "Moonlight Special" service is correct....but surprisingly, the connecting airport involved in this low fare effort by EA wasn't Kansas City (MCI).
41- um, isn't this sort of a "gimme"? see highlight in original q

in Jan 86 I flew LAX-ORD on an Eastern A300 for something like $49 ... as I was boarding (carrying a pilot's black bag adorned with with a bunch of Boeing Flight Test stickers and a name tag saying "Flight Crew Member"), one of the pilots was standing by the forward galley and asked if I worked for Boeing Flight Test; I said I had for a few years, he asked if I knew his former Navy squadron mate, I said yes, we even played recreational soccer together in Seattle ... we kept chatting by the flight deck door until the FA started to get antsy about final cabin prep ... there were maybe 50 pax on board, no more than four or five in F; I sat down in 3A and she never batted an eye
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:32 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
41- um, isn't this sort of a "gimme"? see highlight in original quote.....
41. Nope, no freebies here as the connecting airport wasn't Chicago O'Hare (ORD) or Chicago Midway (MDW)........
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:34 am
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41- I seem to remember EA running a number of flights thru Omaha (OMA) around this time ...
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by Mwenenzi View Post

The aircraft vs car names may be better if split off into a separate thread
Thanks Mwenenzi. Some new ones there.
There have already been far more responses than I envisaged.
I'll post the missing ones from my original list now and call boarding complete to enable us to get on with the airline quiz.

Astra
Vauxhall Astra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Astra
I.A.I Astra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulfstream_G100

Aerostar
Ford Aerostar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Aerostar
Ted Smith / Piper Aerostar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_Aerostar

Apache
Austin Apache https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Apache
Piper PA-23 Apache https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-23

Baron
Chrysler LeBaron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_LeBaron
Beech 55/58 Baron https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Baron

Cavalier
Vauxhall Cavalier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Cavalier
Squarecraft Cavalier https://www.airliners.net/photo/Unti...valier/1773580

Clipper
Packard Clipper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Packard_Clipper
Piper PA-16 Clipper https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-16_Clipper

Colt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_Colt
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-20_Pacer

Comanche
Jeep Comanche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Comanche
Piper PA-24 Comanche https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-24_Comanche

Commander
Studebaker Commander https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_Commander
Aero Commander https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aero_Commander

Defender
Land Rover Defender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_Rover_Defender
Britten-Norman Defender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Britten-Norman_Defender

Devon
Austin A40 Devon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_A40_Devon
D.H. 104 Dove (RAF name = Devon) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Dove

Diamond
Diamond T https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_T
MItsubishi MU-300 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawker_400

Duchess
Buick Duchess https://tinyurl.com/wlsjbtz
Beech 76 Duchess https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Duchess

Gazelle
Singer Gazelle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singer_Gazelle
Aerospatiale Gazelle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A%C3%A9rospatiale_Gazelle

Hawk
Studebaker Silver Hawk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_Silver_Hawk
BAe Hawk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Hawk

Impala
Chevrolet Impala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Impala
Aermacchi MB-326 Impala https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aermacchi_MB-326

Lark
Studebaker Lark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker_Lark
Helton Lark https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culver_Cadet

Metro
Austin Metro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Metro
Swearingen Metro https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairch...gen_Metroliner

Minor
Morris Minor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Minor
D.H. Moth Minor https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Havilland_Moth_Minor

Nomad
Chevrolet Nomad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Nomad
GAF Nomad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GAF_Nomad

Orion
Ford Orion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Orion
Magni M-24 Orion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magni_M-24_Orion

Scout
International Harvester Scout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intern...arvester_Scout
Westland Scout https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Scout

Sierra
Ford Sierra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sierra
Beech 24 Sierra https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Musketeer

Sovereign
Daimler Sovereign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Sovereign
Cessna 680 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_Citation_Sovereign

Tiger
Sunbeam Tiger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunbeam_Tiger
Grumman AA-5B Tiger https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_American_AA-5

Titan
Nissan Titan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_Titan
Cessna 404 Titan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_404_Titan

Vagabond
Kaiser Vagabond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiser_Motors
Piper PA-15 Vagabond https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-15_Vagabond

Viking
Peel Viking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peel_Viking_Sport
Vickers Viking https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_VC.1_Viking

Wyvern
Vauxhall Wyvern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vauxhall_Wyvern
Westland Wyvern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westland_Wyvern

Zephyr
Ford Zephyr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Zephyr
ATEC Zephyr https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ATEC_122_Zephyr_2000
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:45 am
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Originally Posted by jlemon View Post
43. Yep, Ontario (ONT) is the airport we are looking for.....however, the airline wasn't United, the aircraft wasn't a B727-200 and the flight in question did not stop at Denver or San Francisco.
How about an AA MD-80 routing IND-DFW-PSP-ONT?
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Old Apr 6, 20, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
41- I seem to remember EA running a number of flights thru Omaha (OMA) around this time ...
41. Nope, the connecting airport for Eastern's "Moonlight Special" service wasn't Omaha (OMA).......
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Old Apr 6, 20, 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by Herb687 View Post
How about an AA MD-80 routing IND-DFW-PSP-ONT?
43. A great guess! And several airlines operated PSP - ONT or ONT - PSP tag routes over the years....

However, it wasn't American, the aircraft wasn't an MD-80 and the flight did not stop at Dallas/Fort Worth or Palm Springs.
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