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belfordrocks Jun 16, 2013 9:29 am

[KVS Availability Tool 7.1.9 - Routing Rules: SYD-OKA/JL/SRTJAU1/623 USD]
Code:

SYDOKA-JL 16JUN13      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0008 RULE 4071
                         
  -FARE BASIS        AUD      NUC                PTC  FT  GI
SRTJAU1        R    650.00    665.43              ADT  EX  EH
SRTJAU1/CH25    R    488.00    499.07              CNN  EX  EH
SRTJAU1/IN90    R    65.00    66.54              INF  EX  EH
SRTJAU1/CH25    R    488.00    499.07              INS  EX  EH

BOOKING CODES        S                                         

INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XEX - REGULAR EXCURSION                   
MPM - EH  5905 VIA EASTERN HEMISPHERE

---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  38 FROM-TO  SYD-JL/CX-HKG-TYO-JL/NU-OKA*             
            FROM-TO  SYD-JL/QF-SIN-TYO-JL/NU-OKA*             
            FROM-TO  SYD-QF-SYD-TYO-JL/NU-OKA*               
            FROM-TO  SYD-QF-SYD-TYO-JL/NU/JC-OKA*             
            FROM-TO  SYD-TYO-JL/NU-OKA*                       
            FROM-TO  SYD-TYO-JL/NU/JC-OKA*

I'm trying to route this via SIN which appears to be permitted, but every time I do so in ITA the price jumps up astronomically (and of course, in a different fare).

Anything I'm overlooking- does MPM apply here?

KVS Jun 16, 2013 12:01 pm


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 20932237)
I'm trying to route this via SIN which appears to be permitted, but every time I do so in ITA the price jumps up astronomically (and of course, in a different fare).

Anything I'm overlooking- does MPM apply here?

Are you able to meet the Flight requirements?:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Fare Rules: SYD-OKA/JL/SRTJAU1/623 USD]
Code:

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY JQ.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN AUSTRALIA
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY QF FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF
        ANY QF FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SYD AND
JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY JL FLIGHT
      ANY NU FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA
AND HKG
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN HKG AND
JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY JL FLIGHT
      ANY NU FLIGHT.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN AUSTRALIA
AND SIN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY QF.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SIN AND
JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY JL FLIGHT OPERATED BY JL.

AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN JAPAN
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY JL FLIGHT
      ANY NU FLIGHT.

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SH12 AUSTRALIA TO JAPAN SPECIAL FARES
APPLICATION
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
  ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
  CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
  THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
  AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
  WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
  FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
  JUDGEMENT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      DIFFERENCE COULD EXIST BETWEEN CRS/GDS LAST
      TICKETING DATE AND TTL ROBOT REMARK THE MOST
      RESTRICTIVE DATE PREVAILS.
      -----------------------------

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT AUD 100.00 EACH IN JAPAN
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

[Transfers]
4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
      1 PERMITTED IN AUSTRALIA IN EACH DIRECTION
      1 PERMITTED IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.
OR - 4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
          1 PERMITTED IN SIN/HKG IN EACH DIRECTION
          1 PERMITTED IN JAPAN IN EACH DIRECTION.
    FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED
    ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Surcharges]
ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA -
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA -
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN
AUSTRALIA AND JAPAN ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY JL FLIGHT.
AND - THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
      WHEN TICKETS ARE SOLD IN AUSTRALIA.
  FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01APR13 AND ON/BEFORE 31MAY13
    FUEL SURCHARGE OF AUD 280.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
    ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
  ORIGINATING AUSTRALIA -
    FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01JUN13 AND ON/BEFORE
    31JUL13
      FUEL SURCHARGE OF AUD 280.00 PER DIRECTION WILL
      BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY
      PASSENGER.

[Travel Restrictions]
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/AFTER 01NOV12.

[Sales Restrictions]
FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/AFTER 01NOV12.
 
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF JL OR QF.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

  BEFORE DEPARTURE
    CANCELLATIONS PERMITTED.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      A.PERMITTED AT CHARGE OF AUD200 UP TO BEFORE
      DEPARTURE.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHAGRES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      B.IN CASE OF NO SHOW - AUD300 INSTADE OF AUD 200
      APPLIES FOR REFUND.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHAGRES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS
      ----------------------------
      AUTO-REFUND VIA GDS IS ONLY PERMITTED UP TO DAY
      BEFORE DEPARTURE OF 1ST SEGEMENT. ON/AFTER DAY OF
      DEPARTURE OF 1ST SEGMENT REFUND MUST BE APPLIED
      ONLY THROUGH BSP LINK AND WITHIN THE VALIDITY OF
      TKT.
      -------------------------------------------------

AFTER DEPARTURE
    TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MAY BE USED AS CREDIT
      TOWARDS PAYMENT OF ANY APPLICABLE HIGHER JL
      CARRIER FARE FROM POINT OF ORIGIN TO JAPAN
      UP TO DAY BEFORE DEPARTURE. REBOOKING CHARGE
      APPLY.
      --------------------------------------------------

CHANGES

  BEFORE DEPARTURE
    CHANGES PERMITTED.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      A.REBOOKING/REROUTING -
      PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF AUD100 UP TO BEFORE
      DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHARGES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      B.IN CASE OF NO SHOW - AUD300 INSTADE OF AUD 100
      APPLIES FOR REVALIDATION OR REROUTING.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHARGES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      C.CHANGES BEFORE OUTBOUND DEPARTURE WHEN THE
      FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR IS CHANGED.
      THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING FARES IN
      EFFECT ON THE DATE THE TICKET IS REISSUED.
      THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL RULE PROVISIONS
      OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARE I.E. ADVANCE
      RESERVATIONS/TICKETING DEADLINE/MINIMUM/MAXIMUM
      STAY/BOOKING CLASS/SEASONALITY ETC.
      ----------------
      WHEN CHANGES OTHER THAN THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL
      SECTOR THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING FARES
      IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS TICKETING DATE. THE NEW
      ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE PROVISIONS  OF
      THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH THAT THE
      RECALCULATED  FARE COULD HAVE BEEN USED FOR THE
      NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE ORIGINAL TICKET
      ISSUED DATE.
      --------------------------------------------------

AFTER DEPARTURE
    CHANGES PERMITTED.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      REBOOKING/REROUTING -
      A.PERMITTED AT A CHARGE OF AUD100 UP TO BEFORE
      DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINAL FLIGHT.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHARGES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      B.UPGRADING TO ANY APPLICABLE HIGHER JL CARRIER
      FARE IS PERMITTED ON PAYMENT OF THE FARE
      DIFFERENCE ON HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS UP TO BEFORE
      DEPARTURE AND CHARGE OF AUD100.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHARGES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      C.IN CASE OF NO SHOW - AUD300 INSTADE OF AUD 100
      APPLIES FOR REVALIDATION OR REROUTING.
      CHILD DISCOUNT APPLIES TO CHARGES.
      CHARGE DOES NOT APPLY TO INFANTS.
      D.WAITING LIST IS NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF
      CHANGE.
      E.THE ITINERARY MUST BE RE-PRICED USING
      HISTORICAL FARES IN EFFECT ON THE PREVIOUS
      TICKETING DATE.
      THE NEW ITINERARY MUST MEET ALL THE RULE
      PROVISION  S OF THE NEWLY TICKETED FARES SUCH
      THAT THE RECALCULATED FARE COULD HAVE BEEN
      USED FOR THE NEW ITINERARY IF PURCHASED ON THE
      ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE DATE.
      ----------------------------------------------

[Combinations]
 CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC
  FARES. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS
  PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS.
  OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS NOTE -
    COMBINATIONS ARE PERMITED WITH ANY FARE FROM AU
    TO JP IN THIS TARIFF IN ANY RULE.MOST RESTRICTIVE
    CONDITIONS APPLY EXCEPT REVALIDATION/REROUTING
    RULE.
    ---------------------------------------------
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER JL
    AUSTRALIA/JAPAN IN ANY RULE IN THIS TARIFF.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
      NOTE -
      ANY MILEAGE SURCHARGE AND ANY HIGHER INTERMEDIATE
      FARE MAY BE IGNORED.

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NON END/NON REF - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF
  THE FARE.
      TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
      CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
          TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      IF AN INFANT REACHES 2YEARS OF AGE AFTER TRAVEL
      HAS COMMENCED BUT BEFORE TRAVEL IS COMPLETE AN
      INFANT MAY NOT USE AF OPE/JL MKT CODE SHARE FLIGHT
        AND FLIGHTS WITH INTERLINE CONNECTIONS. CHANGES
      FROM PURE JL TO AF OPE/JL MKT CODE SHARE FLIGHT
      REQUIRES REASSESSMENT OF FARE FROM ORIGIN.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
      PERCENT OF THE FARE.
          TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND PERCENT APPLIED.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      UNACCOMPANIED CHILD - 100 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
      ----------------------------------------------
      TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      A CHILD AGED 5-12YEARS UMNR REQUIRED  FOR PURE JL
      FLIGHT. A CHILD AGED 5-14YEARS UMNR REQUIRED FOR
      AF OPE/JL MKT CODE SHARE FLIGHT.
      UMNR REQUIMENT VARY WITH OPERATING CARRIERS.
      UNACCOMPANIED INFANT - NOT PERMITTED.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Day/Time]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Seasonality]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Minimum Stay]
NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Changes]
NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.

[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE


belfordrocks Jun 16, 2013 12:03 pm

Yep, you're right, turns out JL flights operated by QF from SYD to SIN don't exist. So that clears it up.

Cheers :-:

cheltzel Jun 18, 2013 7:41 am

Add BR to Star Alliance?
 
Any estimate on when the tool will be updated for Eva flights in Star Alliance award searches?

I am seeing BR flights on ANA partner award searches.

Thanks

KVS Jun 18, 2013 2:02 pm

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KVS Jun 18, 2013 2:20 pm

EVA Air [BR] Award & Upgrade Availability Support (Star Alliance)
 

Originally Posted by cheltzel (Post 20943264)
Any estimate on when the tool will be updated for Eva flights in Star Alliance award searches?

We are pleased to note that the KVS Tool now supports Award & Upgrade Availability on the latest Star Alliance member - EVA Air [BR].

The KVS Tool User Guide has been updated accordingly:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#BR

cheltzel Jun 18, 2013 4:35 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20946287)
We are pleased to note that the KVS Tool now supports Award & Upgrade Availability on the latest Star Alliance member - EVA Air [BR].

The KVS Tool User Guide has been updated accordingly:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#BR

You could have taken a whole day :D

Thanks for the support!

fabsys Jun 20, 2013 4:13 pm

Wow, i'm really disapointed about this software, all data are scrapped from public websites ....
there are many timeout and system busy error ! very bad choice ....

KVS Jun 21, 2013 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by fabsys (Post 20960619)
there are many timeout and system busy error !

Please provide details and/or screenshots via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

KVS Jun 21, 2013 9:46 pm


Originally Posted by cheltzel (Post 20947220)
You could have taken a whole day :D

Thanks for the support!

You're welcome! :)

lukepower Jun 25, 2013 1:32 am

Hi there,

I started to try today the new Beta, with the power search. However, I am somehow unable to search for a timespan longer than 7 days. I go to Award search, choose StarAlliance-7D; then I set up a filter (right now, I just tick "Filter results"), then back to award search, hit the powersearch button right above "Go", choose a +- range of 1 month. Then it works, but gives me only a list of 7 days. Is this correct, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks

Tobias-UK Jun 25, 2013 2:08 am

Is the Beta Power Search function only functional with *A or can it be used for oneworld too?

Jim055 Jun 25, 2013 9:33 am

Beta is only returning one day of 15 day search.
Settings: LAX - LHR
dates: May 14th +/- 7 days
Tried both *A and OW
No idea what the date is of the one day being displayed.
Filter set to Exclude Code Share Flights and Non-Stop Only.

belfordrocks Jun 25, 2013 9:56 am

I think the idea is it stops searching the first day that there is availability. Not sure if that's intended though, and I'd much prefer if it displayed all availability for the duration of the whole search.

KVS Jun 25, 2013 10:17 am


Originally Posted by lukepower (Post 20984261)
I started to try today the new Beta, with the power search. However, I am somehow unable to search for a timespan longer than 7 days. I go to Award search, choose StarAlliance-7D; then I set up a filter (right now, I just tick "Filter results"), then back to award search, hit the powersearch button right above "Go", choose a +- range of 1 month. Then it works, but gives me only a list of 7 days. Is this correct, or am I doing something wrong?

Welcome to FT!


Originally Posted by Jim055 (Post 20986253)
Beta is only returning one day of 15 day search.
Settings: LAX - LHR
dates: May 14th +/- 7 days
Tried both *A and OW
No idea what the date is of the one day being displayed.
Filter set to Exclude Code Share Flights and Non-Stop Only.


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 20986372)
I think the idea is it stops searching the first day that there is availability.

Indeed, the [Power Search] is designed to stop as soon as Flight(s) with Award Seat Availability matching the [Filter] criteria are located.


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