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Flyer IAH Jun 2, 2013 11:45 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20853114)
At the moment, AF-KL is reporting no Award Availability on KL to AMS:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:

IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
MON  03 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AF        639    IAH  16:00    CDG  08:35 +1          CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF    1640    CDG  11:40 +1  AMS  12:55 +1
AF        639    IAH  16:00    CDG  08:35 +1          CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF    1740    CDG  12:35 +1  AMS  13:50 +1
AF        639    IAH  16:00    CDG  08:35 +1          CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF    1140    CDG  16:40 +1  AMS  17:55 +1
AF        639    IAH  16:00    CDG  08:35 +1          CS+  WS+  YS+
 -> AF    1440    CDG  17:50 +1  AMS  19:05 +1


If there is no availability on AF/KL system, why the search option in DL for KVS shows availability on KL?

Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).

Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?

KVS Jun 3, 2013 12:17 am


Originally Posted by Flyer IAH (Post 20855640)
Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).

It should actually be CS and not CM -- a KVS Tool update will be released shortly:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:

IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  04 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
KL        662    IAH  15:10    AMS  07:30 +1          CS+  WX/  YX+


Originally Posted by Flyer IAH (Post 20855640)
Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?

DL.com will display this flight if you search Awards by Schedule.

belfordrocks Jun 3, 2013 1:09 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20834279)
No, a YS Award would cost 22 500 miles:

http://www.Delta.com/content/www/en_...hern-asia.html

But DL does not permit one way awards, so 45000 is the correct price for a round trip or a one way. Of course, it would be in your best interests to book the former, or an open jaw.


Originally Posted by Flyer IAH (Post 20855640)
If there is no availability on AF/KL system, why the search option in DL for KVS shows availability on KL?

Another example, June 4th:

Using Method Awards/DL-Skyteam (Quick option), shows availability on KL IAH-AMS on CS+. However, using Method Awards/Skyteam, same flight shows only availability on CM+ (not CS).

Delta.com does not show any availability, even though KVS is showing availability. Why is that?

Phantom KLM availability through Delta..

Flyer IAH Jun 3, 2013 8:35 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20855741)
It should actually be CS and not CM -- a KVS Tool update will be released shortly:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/SkyTeam/US-AF]
Code:

IAH  Houston George Bush Intercnt'l TX US [KIAH]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  04 Jun 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
KL        662    IAH  15:10    AMS  07:30 +1          CS+  WX/  YX+



DL.com will display this flight if you search Awards by Schedule.

Delta.com shows this flight in search by schedule but then gives you an error. Called Delta and they mention there is no such availability. So my point is that KVS is showing a flight available that is actually not bookable.

Flyer IAH Jun 3, 2013 8:38 am


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 20855869)

Phantom KLM availability through Delta..

Is this Phantom KLM availability through Delta a new occurrence? Is this KLM or Delta's fault, and how do you get around this?

KVS Jun 3, 2013 9:40 am


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 20855869)
Phantom KLM availability through Delta..

It is not "phantom", as AF-KL confirms positive Award Availability on that flight. However, KL may be blocking the redemption.


Originally Posted by Flyer IAH (Post 20857187)
Delta.com shows this flight in search by schedule but then gives you an error. Called Delta and they mention there is no such availability. So my point is that KVS is showing a flight available that is actually not bookable.

That question would be best directed to DL (who are showing that flight as having positive Award Availability), and/or KL (who may be blocking the redemption).

honghong322 Jun 3, 2013 3:45 pm

I have a question looking at CX availability. On KVS it shows a flight as F1. When go to a website such as kayak or Cathay's own website and attempt to book a 1 way on the exact same flight I see as F1 on KVS for 2 seats, it will allow me to do so. Kayak.com even says that there are 5 seats left!

Any idea what is going on?

Thanks

onlysuites Jun 3, 2013 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by Flyer IAH (Post 20857206)
Is this Phantom KLM availability through Delta a new occurrence? Is this KLM or Delta's fault, and how do you get around this?

Basically No..... I tried a lot to get mine ticketed. Some have reported that they were able to get DL agents to manually book it for them. I tried that with a number of agents but didn't get anywhere.

There is no pattern or logic to how/why KLM gives award seats to DL. Some flights you can book and some you can't. But yes KVS is right, the seats show up and DL agents can see them but when they go to book the seats come as blocked.

KVS Jun 3, 2013 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by honghong322 (Post 20860035)
I have a question looking at CX availability. On KVS it shows a flight as F1. When go to a website such as kayak or Cathay's own website and attempt to book a 1 way on the exact same flight I see as F1 on KVS for 2 seats, it will allow me to do so. Kayak.com even says that there are 5 seats left!

Any idea what is going on?

What's the Flight #/Date?

pschafer Jun 4, 2013 4:38 pm

Help - KVS has gone haywire
 
I run KVS under Crossover on an iMac.

All of a sudden - every time I started KVS it went into some sort of a loop without me doing anything (i.e. entering a search request) - it displayed the searching info at the bottom of the screen - then after about 5 minutes gave some sort of error (message box changed each time). After various "force quit" attempts I re-booted and everything seemed OK - but on entering a new search - it just hangs showing the Mac "hourglass" - I can't stop or quit the app - I presume I can Force Quit Crossover.

How do I get things back on track?

KVS Jun 4, 2013 7:10 pm


Originally Posted by pschafer (Post 20866642)
How do I get things back on track?

Did you make any recent changes to CrossOver or your Mac?
If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

pschafer Jun 4, 2013 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 20867324)
Did you make any recent changes to CrossOver or your Mac?
If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

I made no changes whatsoever - it just started looping from one query to the next. After many process kills and re-boots - KVS just seem to keep searching (info line on the bottom shows result count in the 1000's) then gets a timeout error.

I am at the stage of trying to un-install and re-install to see if that helps. I can send a screenshot but I don't think that will provide any additional information - all types of searches fail after "looping" for 5+ minutes. (Note KVS is still working fine on my iMac - it's my MacBook that is failing.)

UPDATE - I un-installed KVS using the KVS un-install utility and then removed the "bottle" from Crossover then re-installed KVS - it is now working fine.

KVS Jun 6, 2013 3:15 pm

KVS Tool: 30-Day/6-Month Award Availability Power Search Beta
 
http://www.kvstool.com/Images/StarGreen15.gif Interested Diamond-tier KVS Tool members are invited to RSVP using the link at http://www.KVSTool.com/

GinFizz Jun 9, 2013 4:09 am

I am running a search for *A availability on UA from NYC to ORD for Sun July 14 using the Awards/Star Alliance option with the default setting of JP-ANA +3D.

The latest flight in the list that comes up is for a 17:05 departure. I can see though from a timetable search that there are a couple more UA flights later than this. Am I doing something wrong - or are these later flights somehow "hidden" for award availability through the ANA system?

KVS Jun 9, 2013 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by GinFizz (Post 20890651)
I am running a search for *A availability on UA from NYC to ORD for Sun July 14 using the Awards/Star Alliance option with the default setting of JP-ANA +3D.

The latest flight in the list that comes up is for a 17:05 departure. I can see though from a timetable search that there are a couple more UA flights later than this. Am I doing something wrong - or are these later flights somehow "hidden" for award availability through the ANA system?

They are not "hidden", but there are just too many of them.

You would need to use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] / [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Methods to see the remaining flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.2.0/Diamond - Awards/AC-StarAlliance/CA]
Code:

EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
SUN  14 Jul 2013 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
UA        1492    EWR  06:40    ORD  08:06    738  0  CS+  YS+
UA        759    EWR  07:45    ORD  09:15    752  0  CS+  YS+
UA        1151    EWR  10:55    ORD  12:20    738  0  CS+  YS+
UA        1595    EWR  21:59    ORD  23:41    73G  0  YS+



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