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Appreciate it. Any chance you can post for return segment LHR-YYZ/Nov 9?

nux	Nov 4, 2014 4:19 am

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Originally Posted by mileageking (Post 23788651)

Appreciate it. Any chance you can post for return segment LHR-YYZ/Nov 9?

They are all R0 as well. Perhaps you should request a refund from KVS and subscribe to ExpertFlyer ;)

mileageking

Nov 4, 2014 4:25 am

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Originally Posted by nux (Post 23788672)

They are all R0 as well. Perhaps you should request a refund from KVS and subscribe to ExpertFlyer ;)

Thanks

jerry_greece

Nov 4, 2014 4:39 am

Can anyone help me with GTC, i manage to find some site codes/passwords but don't work. What should i do? Anyone please PM

IMH	Nov 4, 2014 5:39 am

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Originally Posted by mileageking (Post 23788603)

How do I [...] search availability in KVS (I'm a Diamond member with KVS)?

Quote:

Originally Posted by jerry_greece (Post 23788740)

Can anyone help me with GTC, i manage to find some site codes/passwords but don't work. What should i do?

Wait patiently. The app often doesn't do what you bought it for. KVS is very busy. But you've asked in the right ~~tool~~ thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 2804833)

[...] Tool users can post questions about the Tool's functionality, issues, suggestions, etc.
This tool will also continue to be used for posting the latest Tool news and information regarding updates.

fuyao

Nov 4, 2014 6:12 am

But we must also give some credit to KVS, it only took him 1 day to find a new website to scrape the data from for the fares. Will see how long the CZ OTA will keep that channel open til they realize they suddenly get more requests.

nux	Nov 4, 2014 6:27 am

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Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23789042)

I would guess they didn't find this option in 1 day but had it saved 'for a rainy day' when the previous option was no longer available.

paulwuk

Nov 4, 2014 6:36 am

Issue: KVS Availability Tool does not provide availability out of the box
Feature request: KVS Availability Tool should provide availability without causing the user to break terms of services or commit fraud by misrepresentation.
Suggestions: KVS should pay for a GDS source like legitimate companies do.

zozeppelin

Nov 4, 2014 6:51 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by nux (Post 23789106)

I would guess they didn't find this option in 1 day but had it saved 'for a rainy day' when the previous option was no longer available.

Correction:
It took only 1 day to find an option (and update scrapper/GUI/error handling, which is no trivial matter). [f@recompare]
Then it only took a couple hours for that to be shut down.
Then 3 days later found another one. [redacted]
How long will this take to get shut down?

I do feel for the guy in some ways but honestly and communication would go a long way. In the absence of both, it is pretty amusing watching whack a mole.

davetravels

Nov 4, 2014 7:20 am

Mr or Ms KVS:

Please advise: What's the latest on not showing "regular availability" for flights before a certain hour in the morning (7AM? 9AM?) on the mobile companion? - - and I assume that it's still not working on a regular browser / website?!?

I want to sign up before my 12 segment - 5 city trip starting this Friday morning!

Thanx!

tomh009

Nov 4, 2014 8:58 am

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Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23782529)

Usually its below 5 cents through the GDS but even then its expensive.

5 cents, or even 13 cents per query would be OK for me, I don't do that many queries. But Timatic has a base annual fee of €499, which is a bit rich. Now, if KVS paid for that and included it in the service, and then individual subscribers' fees covered the usage fees, I think that could work.

paulwuk

Nov 4, 2014 9:13 am

Quote:

Originally Posted by zozeppelin (Post 23789217)

Correction:
It took only 1 day to find an option (and update scrapper/GUI/error handling, which is no trivial matter). [f@recompare]
Then it only took a couple hours for that to be shut down.
Then 3 days later found another one. [flyflytr@vel]
How long will this take to get shut down?

I do feel for the guy in some ways but honestly and communication would go a long way. In the absence of both, it is pretty amusing watching whack a mole.

From your last one's website (what's with the at signs?)

Quote:

If You are currently unable to perform the search in our online booking system on your own, please fill the inquiry on Your left side and our experienced agents will find You the most favourable option in a very short time and forward it to Your email address.

Sadly KVS's "antics" and it's users potential illegal usage of these sites impacts on a lot of websites, and is making travel on the internet a far worse place to be :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons

KVS	Nov 4, 2014 12:21 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by IMH (Post 23785365)

Does that agreement seek to prohibit users from looking at their router logs?

No, as long as it is done for conventional system administration purposes.

KVS	Nov 4, 2014 12:27 pm

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Originally Posted by angatol (Post 23785242)

Don't suppose you accepted any of the Ts and Cs of the sites you scrape?

Quote:

Originally Posted by seawolf (Post 23786359)

As KVS mentioned, the program is a tool (not a data service - no data center

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23786090)

or to put it in your words, developing a "browser" that allows us to scrape the data so you officially are not violating any T&Cs but we do by using your tool.

Unlike certain posters in this thread, we did not put it into [empty] "words" -- we actually put it into bits and bytes by developing a Specialized Web Browser application, known as the KVS Tool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23786090)

I always loved your tool cause it allows us to do many things one could not do without direct GDS access but part of the business is also the support and there is some lack there.

We continue to provide full support to KVS Tool Members on matters relating to the KVS Tool functionality via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23786090)

You have to make it clear to the customer that you are providing a tool that scrapes the data

We do make it clear that the KVS Tool is a Specialized Web Browser application. We do not have "a tool that scrapes the data" and we have no intention of creating one.

KVS	Nov 4, 2014 12:29 pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by zozeppelin (Post 23785094)

Is the title "KVS Availability Tool" now a misnomer?

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuyao (Post 23785183)

The current correct name would be KVS Award availability Tool ;)

The term "KVS Availability Tool" dates back to 2004 (and the beginning of this Thread).

The current name, which has been in use for many years now, is KVS Tool, which better reflects the diversity of the Tool's current functionality, including an unsurpassed Award/Upgrade Availability coverage.

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