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KVS Apr 26, 2012 11:56 am


Originally Posted by eery (Post 18463847)
I am not user of KVS tool, but before buying licence, I would like to know if there is possible to find awards tickets for Korean Air flights, concretely between Seoul and Honolulu and Seoul and Europe.
Thank you

Welcome to FT!


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 18463872)
KVS can correct me, but I believe you cannot. It's probably the only major award travel opportunity that cannot be checked online.

Indeed, KE Award Availability is not currently visible via any Tool, service or website whatsoever.

Other than this notable exception, the KVS Tool fully supports Award Availability throughout all 3 major alliances (Star Alliance, OneWorld and SkyTeam):

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

meFIRST Apr 26, 2012 4:22 pm

Personally, I prefer KVS, but I hate the go arounds to make it work on Mac OS. Until then I'm using the competition. Would be nice if you had a mac native client.

IAD1k Apr 26, 2012 5:14 pm

KVS shows YS+, AA can't see it
 
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?

belfordrocks Apr 26, 2012 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 18467712)
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?

In my experience the BA/Oneworld and the QF/Oneworld tools do sometimes show different availability. I would cross-check with the BA/Oneworld tool (which is generally more accurate) before calling...

KVS Apr 26, 2012 7:11 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 18467712)
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?

Please see the reply in the http://www.Flyertalk.com/forum/ameri...l#post18468182 Thread.


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 18467785)
In my experience the BA/Oneworld and the QF/Oneworld tools do sometimes show different availability. I would cross-check with the BA/Oneworld tool (which is generally more accurate) before calling...

Indeed, cross-checking LA/LP/4M Availability using the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Method is a good idea.

Austinrunner Apr 26, 2012 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by IAD1k (Post 18467712)
i'm trying to book a one-way coach saver award, MIA-EZE. lan arg (4M) shows availability in coach (YS+) on the KVS tool, amadeus-oneworld. but when i call AA to book it, they tell me it's only available in biz. i called 4M who tells me the seats in coach are available to OW members. KVS uses qantas to show availability, so if it's available to qantas, it should be available to AA, right? why can't AA see them? are they blocking them? any clues?

Cross-posting is against the rules of this forum.

froggers15 Apr 28, 2012 2:17 pm

Why do only connecting flights show up for awards?
 
I'm a new user with the latest version and diamond level and think I might be making some error. When searching for flights that I know have some award availability (e.g. MSP to ATL on DL), the tool shows results for connecting routes only. For example, MSP to DTW to ATL, rather than MSP to ATL. If I search DTW to ATL, which previously showed as having an award, then it shows some connecting routes from DTW to MSP to ATL, for example. Am I doing something wrong that makes it not show the direct route availability?

Thanks.

KVS Apr 28, 2012 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by froggers15 (Post 18477097)
I'm a new user with the latest version and diamond level and think I might be making some error. When searching for flights that I know have some award availability (e.g. MSP to ATL on DL), the tool shows results for connecting routes only. For example, MSP to DTW to ATL, rather than MSP to ATL. If I search DTW to ATL, which previously showed as having an award, then it shows some connecting routes from DTW to MSP to ATL, for example. Am I doing something wrong that makes it not show the direct route availability?

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Could you please provide some specific date example(s)?

froggers15 Apr 28, 2012 3:39 pm

KL flights for KL members, not DL?
 

Originally Posted by KVS (Post 18477140)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Could you please provide some specific date example(s)?

Hi,

So I think I just needed to scroll more and use the Ctrl-N, because that seems to have fixed it. So, now I have gone through the process of finding flights that have the awards I want. I found the one below on KLM and Delta is telling me they aren't available for me with Delta miles. Is she correct that though these seats might be available, they are not available for people with Delta miles (vs. KLM). Any recommendations for a) how to know that in advance and/or b) how to get around it?

Thanks a lot.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:

SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat | SM Status: Diamond

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL        904    SVO  18:00    AMS  19:30    737  0  CS+
KL        902    SVO  05:35    AMS  06:55    737  0  CS+ YS+


KVS Apr 28, 2012 4:00 pm


Originally Posted by froggers15 (Post 18477414)
So I think I just needed to scroll more and use the Ctrl-N, because that seems to have fixed it. So, now I have gone through the process of finding flights that have the awards I want. I found the one below on KLM and Delta is telling me they aren't available for me with Delta miles. Is she correct that though these seats might be available, they are not available for people with Delta miles (vs. KLM). Any recommendations for a) how to know that in advance and/or b) how to get around it?

Thanks a lot.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]
Code:

SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat | SM Status: Diamond

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL        904    SVO  18:00    AMS  19:30    737  0  CS+
KL        902    SVO  05:35    AMS  06:55    737  0  CS+ YS+


Those Award seats are definitely available (incl. as SM Awards).

For tips on dealing with Agents, who may claim otherwise, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.9.R2/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]
Code:

SVO  Moscow Sheremetyevo RU [UUEE]
AMS  Amsterdam Schiphol NL [EHAM]
TUE  10 Jul 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KL        902    SVO  05:35    AMS  06:55              CS+  YS+
KL        904    SVO  18:00    AMS  19:30              CS1  YS+
AZ        595    SVO  06:00    FCO  07:55              CS+  YS+
 -> AZ    108    FCO  08:55    AMS  11:30
AF        2545    SVO  07:25    CDG  09:20              CS1  YM+
 -> AF    1640    CDG  11:40    AMS  12:55
AF        2545    SVO  07:25    CDG  09:20              CS4  YM4
 -> AF    1740    CDG  12:50    AMS  14:05
AF        1145    SVO  09:45    CDG  11:40              CX-  YM4
 -> AF    1740    CDG  12:50    AMS  14:05
AF        1645    SVO  13:55    CDG  15:50              CS1  YM+
 -> AF    2240    CDG  17:45    AMS  19:00
OK        893    SVO  14:45    PRG  15:40              CS+  YS+
 -> OK    618    PRG  17:15    AMS  18:50


jasonvr May 4, 2012 9:25 am

Looks like the "check for updates" feature was broken in 6.9.9.R2. I was having problems with AC-StarAlliance so I checked for an update. It told me I was up to date. Went to the website and found 6.9.9.R3 which solved the AC-StarAlliance issue

KVS May 4, 2012 2:33 pm


Originally Posted by jasonvr (Post 18513799)
Looks like the "check for updates" feature was broken in 6.9.9.R2. I was having problems with AC-StarAlliance so I checked for an update. It told me I was up to date. Went to the website and found 6.9.9.R3 which solved the AC-StarAlliance issue

The system will not currently issue notifications for minor (.Rx) version updates.

magic168 May 4, 2012 11:36 pm

Are there any trials available for the tool? Thanks.

KVS May 5, 2012 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by magic168 (Post 18517788)
Are there any trials available for the tool? Thanks.

YGPM!

KQ321 May 6, 2012 6:26 am

Problems With Awards/AC-StarAlliance
 
As noted in this thread, I've been having problems trying to book an Aeroplan award ticket Africa-Europe return.

When I try to check availability with Awards/AC-StarAlliance (using KVS v6.9.9.R3 on Win7), I get the following error:
Datasource Error [RD]: "(Engine Error/Unsupported Route)"

This seems to occur for any route between Africa and Europe (eg: JNB-LHR, FRA-ADD, etc). However, it doesn't occur for TATL routes (eg: LHR-YYZ, or even JNB-YYZ (which routes via LHR)).

Is this a problem with KVSTool, or with the Air Canada/Aeroplan booking engine? (The latter seems plausible, as I get errors when I try similar Africa-Europe routes on their website - so I was trying to use KVS to check if it was an availability problem, or a technical problem).

On a related note, can I check award availability on ET using Sabre:Availability/FS? This shows X-class availability for ET flights (although not for any LH flights, as far as I can tell), although it isn't listed as a method for checking award availability on ET on the KVS FAQ. Or does availability in X mean something else in this context?


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