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-   -   KVS Availability Tool (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/travel-tools/319244-kvs-availability-tool.html)

KVS Jan 13, 2010 6:18 pm
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 13174199)
Does anyone know if the LAN E-Ticket lookup will be available to non LAN e-tickets again?
Very unlikely. However, Amadeus E-Ticket lookup is now available via the [Amadeus ETR] option in the [My Bookings] Tab.

Keter Jan 14, 2010 12:18 pm
Any specific reason why seatmaps are shrinked? Not all rows are shown. At least for SU. Previously this was the problem for DL under existing seatmap method (Amadeus).

KVS Jan 14, 2010 6:07 pm
Originally Posted by Keter (Post 13181025)
Any specific reason why seatmaps are shrinked? Not all rows are shown. At least for SU. Previously this was the problem for DL under existing seatmap method (Amadeus).
KVS Tool does not "shrink" anything -- Seat Maps are displayed as per the data, provided by the airlines via Amadeus. Some airlines may choose to send data for only a part of the cabin, so this question would be best directed to them ... :)

Keter Jan 16, 2010 8:07 am
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13183159)
KVS Tool does not "shrink" anything -- Seat Maps are displayed as per the data, provided by the airlines via Amadeus. Some airlines may choose to send data for only a part of the cabin, so this question would be best directed to them ... :)
Well, I don't know how it works, hence the question. One of the reasons to ask is that previously other methods were able to provide full cabin seatmap in case Amadeus did not. And now no other options exist.

KVS Jan 16, 2010 11:58 am
Originally Posted by Keter (Post 13192452)
Well, I don't know how it works, hence the question. One of the reasons to ask is that previously other methods were able to provide full cabin seatmap in case Amadeus did not. And now no other options exist.
This appears to be just a coincidence -- SU started feeding partial seat maps around the same time as the Apollo Seat Map engine was decommissioned. At the moment, other systems are also showing partial maps for SU (same as what Amadeus is showing).

zman Jan 17, 2010 10:33 am
New Seat maps are semi-useless
 
It may NOT be able to be solved by KVS, but basically the new seat maps suck.
I thought it was only dispalying the rows that had seats available, but that is NOT the case. It just randomly displays rows (I am sure there is some formula) that has open seats, but leaves out many rows that also has open seats (in all classes).

KVS Jan 17, 2010 10:39 am
Originally Posted by zman (Post 13198057)
It may NOT be able to be solved by KVS, but basically the new seat maps suck.
I thoiught it was only dispalying the rows that had seats available, but that is NOT the case. It just randomly displays rows (I am sure there is some formula) that has open seats, but leaves out many rows that also has open seats (in all classes).
Once again, this is the seat map data that Aeroflot currently provides, so such a generalized statement would not be appropriate.

zman Jan 17, 2010 12:30 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13198081)
Once again, this is the seat map data that Aeroflot currently provides, so such a generalized statement would not be appropriate.
My comment was nothing to do with Aeroflot (SU), just many of the seat maps as part of the Amadeus text display are now only partially displaying seat maps and not showing all available seats. We all realize this is NOT a KVS issue but Amadeus NOT providing the info.

KVS Jan 17, 2010 1:06 pm
Originally Posted by zman (Post 13198623)
My comment was nothing to do with Aeroflot (SU), just many of the seat maps as part of the Amadeus text display are now only partially displaying seat maps and not showing all available seats. We all realize this is NOT a KVS issue but Amadeus NOT providing the info.
Could you provide specific (non-SU) examples?

nologic Jan 17, 2010 9:16 pm
Can KVS be used to check for JL awards...doesn't seem to show up under OneWorld awards.

ual744777sta Jan 17, 2010 9:17 pm
Originally Posted by nologic (Post 13201203)
Can KVS be used to check for JL awards...doesn't seem to show up under OneWorld awards.
No not at this time. But maybe by April 2011 you'll be able to use it under the Skyteam search function.

sbm12 Jan 17, 2010 9:30 pm
Originally Posted by ual744777sta (Post 13201208)
No not at this time. But maybe by April 2011 you'll be able to use it under the Skyteam search function.
Not likely, as nwa.com is going away imminently. ;)

ual744777sta Jan 17, 2010 9:31 pm
I thought DL switching to NW IT.

zman Jan 18, 2010 2:37 pm
Originally Posted by KVS (Post 13198817)
Could you provide specific (non-SU) examples?
Look at some of the AA BOS-LAX and BOS-DFW (non stop) flights. Many missing rows on seat maps (F and Y). No idea if the are full or not as some rows displayed are 100% occupied.

KVS Jan 18, 2010 2:48 pm
Originally Posted by zman (Post 13205853)
Look at some of the AA BOS-LAX and BOS-DFW (non stop) flights. Many missing rows on seat maps (F and Y). No idea if the are full or not as some rows displayed are 100% occupied.
That appears to be an Amadeus issue -- a new Seat Map option is coming soon and it will show the 'missing' rows:

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