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zman Nov 1, 2009 8:34 pm

KVS appears to be down 10PM Nov 01
 
KVS appears not to be authenticating
Unable to connect to Authentication Server
Every thing times out
Error requesting Data
9001 error


www.kvstool.com not found

TRRed Nov 1, 2009 9:06 pm

I'm getting a similar response to zman's.

rkaradi Nov 1, 2009 9:47 pm

problrms here too, tahnkfully it's not juts me.

KVS Nov 1, 2009 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by zman (Post 12750426)
KVS appears not to be authenticating


Originally Posted by TRRed (Post 12750562)
I'm getting a similar response to zman's.


Originally Posted by rkaradi (Post 12750741)
problrms here too, tahnkfully it's not juts me.

There is currently a web server outage. The hosting provider has already been notified and is working on resolving the issue (which is on their end).

They expect that the system will be back up and running within the next hour or so.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

zman Nov 1, 2009 10:46 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 12750840)
There is currently a web server outage. The hosting provider has already been notified and is working on resolving the issue (which is on their end).

They expect that the system will be back up and running within the next hour or so.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

system appears up @12:30am Nov 2

dechil Nov 2, 2009 1:42 am

Routing rules not available
 
Since yesterday, the routing rules are not available (for all fares)

The message is

* NO FARE IN SYSTEM

KVS Nov 2, 2009 9:33 am


Originally Posted by dechil (Post 12751319)
Since yesterday, the routing rules are not available (for all fares)

The message is

* NO FARE IN SYSTEM

That issue must be specific to particular fare(s), as the system continues to function normally, based on a few random test cases, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Routing Rules: NYC-LAX/AA/QA3KQYN/208 USD]
Code:

NYCLAX-AA  2NOV09      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 2435
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
QA3KQYN              96.74      7.26      104.00  ADT  NL   
QA3KQYN/IN00          0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  NL   
QA3KQYN              96.74      7.26      104.00  INS  NL   
BOOKING CODES        Q                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING    2 FROM-TO  NYC-LAX*                                 
            FROM-TO  NYC-SFO-LAX*                             
            FROM-TO  NYC-DFW/STL/CHI-LAX*                     
            FROM-TO  NYC-SJC-LAX*


burr Nov 3, 2009 10:40 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 12668240)
Error Retreiving Fare Rules
"Emulation Failed"
This matter is already being looked into; in the meantime, please use one of the other Fare Rules options...

Any update on this?

KVS Nov 3, 2009 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by burr (Post 12763583)
Any update on this?

That issue will be resolved in the next release.

Flyiboy Nov 4, 2009 9:13 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 12752920)
That issue must be specific to particular fare(s), as the system continues to function normally, based on a few random test cases, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.2/Diamond - Routing Rules: NYC-LAX/AA/QA3KQYN/208 USD]
Code:

NYCLAX-AA  2NOV09      *RULE DISPLAY*    TARIFF 0011 RULE 2435
  -FARE BASIS        USD      TAX      TOTAL    PTC  FT   
QA3KQYN              96.74      7.26      104.00  ADT  NL   
QA3KQYN/IN00          0.00      0.00        0.00  INF  NL   
QA3KQYN              96.74      7.26      104.00  INS  NL   
BOOKING CODES        Q                                         
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                           
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - SIP - INSTANT PURCHASE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING    2 FROM-TO  NYC-LAX*                                 
            FROM-TO  NYC-SFO-LAX*                             
            FROM-TO  NYC-DFW/STL/CHI-LAX*                     
            FROM-TO  NYC-SJC-LAX*


Just download KVS Diamond..still trying to learn all this..I am trying to find some fares from GOT-IAD, GOT-EWR, GOT-JFK. How do I get to the point as shown above with the fare and the taxes?

Thanks

KVS Nov 4, 2009 11:28 am


Originally Posted by Flyiboy (Post 12765635)
Just download KVS Diamond..still trying to learn all this..I am trying to find some fares from GOT-IAD, GOT-EWR, GOT-JFK. How do I get to the point as shown above with the fare and the taxes?

After using the [Fares] tab to retrieve the fare list, double-click a specific fare and select Routing Rules.

See also http://Help.KVSTool.com

And a warm welcome to the Diamond level!

KVS Nov 11, 2009 3:16 pm

What's New: Version 5.1
 

Originally Posted by gleff (Post 12262816)
Very cool, thanks! ^


Originally Posted by zman (Post 12333248)
Using Sabre Availability/GTC with AA or UA filter on
All flights listed have arrival at 00:00 +83
Did BOS-ORD and BOS-LAX

Version 5.1.0 Release

  • Enhanced: [My Trips] functionality.
  • New: Support for LH, LX, and CX PNRs.
  • Resolved: Various issues with [Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld], [Galileo: ETR], and [Sabre: GTC] Methods.

Version 5.1.4 Release

  • Enhanced: [Availability: Sabre/GTC] Method now supports specific carrier(s) selection.
  • New: Drag-and-Drop individual segments to WordPad (or another application) for easy multi-segment trip construction.
  • Resolved: [WSpan Fare Rules Summary] issues. Date Format issues for certain locales.
  • Updated: Alliance changes for CO/MX.
    Resolved: System Code Permanency Issues: If your current System Code starts with S-FFxxxxxx, it may change to a new permanent System Code after upgrading to V5.1.4, in which case please request a Replacement code via the Registration Wizard.

Keter Nov 14, 2009 5:23 am

Fare/ routing rules bug
 
First of all I understand that the situation described below may be extremely rare, so if it is difficult to fix the issue I would not insist.

Situation: search of fares DEL-MOW. The case in point is DEL-MOW/YY/YIF.

Problem: fare rules (TVN) and routing rules are incorrectly shown for the cheaper fare.

Possible reasons for an error:

a) there are two different YY/YIF fares with different global indicators (FE and EH), different prices and difference mileage allowance (MPM)
b) KVS is not able to specify the GI in the request and obtains something with default settings

Unexplained: the eligibility rules (TVN method) mention some strange restrictions which do not seem to relate to both fares at all (Greek seaman/ government orders).

Possible solution: possibility to specify GI (with "default" settings by default to avoid questions from newcomers, EH, AT etc) would possibly solve the problem.

lopinc1 Nov 14, 2009 8:29 am


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 12816673)
Possible reasons for an error:

a) there are two different YY/YIF fares with different global indicators (FE and EH), different prices and difference mileage allowance (MPM)
b) KVS is not able to specify the GI in the request and obtains something with default settings

Correct, there are 2 different YIF fares one with an FE GI and the other with an EH GI. ExpertFlyer apparently now shows the GI when you look at a fares routing or fare rules.

KVS Nov 14, 2009 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by Keter (Post 12816673)
First of all I understand that the situation described below may be extremely rare, so if it is difficult to fix the issue I would not insist.

Situation: search of fares DEL-MOW. The case in point is DEL-MOW/YY/YIF.

Problem: fare rules (TVN) and routing rules are incorrectly shown for the cheaper fare.

Possible reasons for an error:

a) there are two different YY/YIF fares with different global indicators (FE and EH), different prices and difference mileage allowance (MPM)
b) KVS is not able to specify the GI in the request and obtains something with default settings

Unexplained: the eligibility rules (TVN method) mention some strange restrictions which do not seem to relate to both fares at all (Greek seaman/ government orders).

Possible solution: possibility to specify GI (with "default" settings by default to avoid questions from newcomers, EH, AT etc) would possibly solve the problem.

The GI can only be specified in the MPM queries, so you can obtain MPM for each routing type:

[KVS Availability Tool 5.1.4/Diamond - Reference: Maximum Permitted Mileage [MPM]: DEL-MOW]
Code:

                                                               
        GI      M      5M    10M    15M    20M    25M   
MPM      FE    3231    3392    3554    3715    3877    4038   
MPM      EH    5452    5724    5997    6269    6542    6815

The permitted GI forms a part of the fare rules -- it is something that is retrieved (based on the Fare Basis), and not something that is requested.

Airlines should not be filing different fares with the same Fare Basis (which is the case here). When they do (and this very rare), it causes confusion and system issues, which you are experiencing...


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