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Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 22316477)
The main KVS Tool application and the Mobile Companion have different Availability POSs, so such small variations are quite normal:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors |
KVS shows AA award avail but does not show in AA site or in call
I just started using this tool and am confused as to why it is showing AA award space that does not exist at AA.com.
Search: ogg-ord on Nov. 15 Shows availability for 2 economy seats for the Milesaaver awards (YS+), but when I checked on the AA site and called in, there were none available. Perhaps I am misinterpreting results of doing something wrong, but if anyone can explain this, I would be thankful. |
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22364681)
I just started using this tool and am confused as to why it is showing AA award space that does not exist at AA.com.
Search: ogg-ord on Nov. 15 Shows availability for 2 economy seats for the Milesaaver awards (YS+), but when I checked on the AA site and called in, there were none available. Perhaps I am misinterpreting results of doing something wrong, but if anyone can explain this, I would be thankful. |
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22364681)
Shows availability for 2 economy seats for the Milesaaver awards (YS+), but when I checked on the AA site and called in, there were none available.
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Hello there
I renewed my subcription to diamond for 6 months cause i was really satisfied with the software but i have been experiencing a small problem.As soon as i ask for awards/upgrades for the trip from ATH-LHR in 27th of March and return LHR-ATH 6th of April,using the Awards/BA-oneworld mode,i get the same message---> no award availability/route too complex....which one of two is correct?the lack of available seats for upgrade from Eco to CE or the route is too complex and software cannot sort out any available upgrades?At the same trip of mine, at the same date 27th of March ,it does show award seats from LHR-LIN in Milan and return on 30th of March back to LHR...that is the first time i notice a message like that.Could you please help me?Thank you in advance!! |
Originally Posted by crestfallen
(Post 22366512)
Hello there
I renewed my subcription to diamond for 6 months cause i was really satisfied with the software but i have been experiencing a small problem.As soon as i ask for awards/upgrades for the trip from ATH-LHR in 27th of March and return LHR-ATH 6th of April,using the Awards/BA-oneworld mode,i get the same message---> no award availability/route too complex....which one of two is correct?the lack of available seats for upgrade from Eco to CE or the route is too complex and software cannot sort out any available upgrades?At the same trip of mine, at the same date 27th of March ,it does show award seats from LHR-LIN in Milan and return on 30th of March back to LHR...that is the first time i notice a message like that.Could you please help me?Thank you in advance!! Here's the result for ATH-LHR on 27th March with the JL method: [KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/UK] Code:
ATH Athens Eleftherios Venizelos GR [LGAV] |
thank you very much for your quick reply golfmad.I shall keep this in mind for future award inquires.Pity that there is no availability for CE those dates..hope this change if their bussiness is not full enough,since i see many seats are still available.Thank you for taking time replying to my question. :)
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Originally Posted by st1575
(Post 22365994)
Which engine are you using? Both [Awards/JL-OneWorld] and [Awards/BA-OneWorld] seem to be showing the correct availability (i.e., none).
I was using the Awards/OneWorld search function. Is there a difference with this one? |
Originally Posted by crestfallen
(Post 22366611)
thank you very much for your quick reply golfmad.I shall keep this in mind for future award inquires.Pity that there is no availability for CE those dates..hope this change if their bussiness is not full enough,since i see many seats are still available.Thank you for taking time replying to my question. :)
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Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22364681)
I just started using this tool
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22364681)
and am confused as to why it is showing AA award space that does not exist at AA.com.
Search: ogg-ord on Nov. 15 Shows availability for 2 economy seats for the Milesaaver awards (YS+), but when I checked on the AA site and called in, there were none available. Perhaps I am misinterpreting results of doing something wrong, but if anyone can explain this, I would be thankful.
Originally Posted by JIMCHI
(Post 22364775)
You are correct and this is strange. Even checking AA.com point to point there are no economy award seats on the flights which KVS shows as available. I guess we'll wait to see what KVS says here.
Originally Posted by st1575
(Post 22365994)
Which engine are you using? Both [Awards/JL-OneWorld] and [Awards/BA-OneWorld] seem to be showing the correct availability (i.e., none).
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22366623)
I was using the Awards/OneWorld search function. Is there a difference with this one?
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA |
Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 22366702)
Welcome to FT & KVS Tool!
What are the flight #s in question? As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide, the [Awards/JL-OneWorld] Method is more authoritative for AA Award Availability: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AA Thanks, and I will try the JL search as well, but just seemed strange that this would show as available on the OneWorld search. |
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22366726)
The search lists several flight available on AA, such as 254-1062; 14-1445; but none of these are actually available on Nov 15.
[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.4/Diamond - Awards/JL-OneWorld/US] Code:
OGG Kahului HI US [PHOG]Code:
OGG Kahului HI US [PHOG]
Originally Posted by Gustraveler
(Post 22366726)
Thanks, and I will try the JL search as well, but just seemed strange that this would show as available on the OneWorld search.
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Does KVS offer a free trial at all?
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Originally Posted by Oapos
(Post 22367830)
Does KVS offer a free trial at all?
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Hi, question about BA engine - Many times it just popped up saying error: stopover is possible..... How to solve this?
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Originally Posted by Oapos
(Post 22367830)
Does KVS offer a free trial at all?
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Is there a listing of what the text in the status bar means while performing a search?
Also, I have registered KVS on new computer and I'm receiving an Error message sometimes but not always: Datasource Error [R1] "Could not find an airport for SFO" Usually repeating the search a few times fixes the problem |
Originally Posted by Oapos
(Post 22367830)
Does KVS offer a free trial at all?
Originally Posted by keepssmile
(Post 22368384)
$20 for 2 months Diamond is not to bad IMO
Originally Posted by JIMCHI
(Post 22368446)
Question posted and answered many times before - NO. They offer a cheap 2 month trial, but not free.
http://Join.KVSTool.com/ |
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 22369815)
Is there a listing of what the text in the status bar means while performing a search?
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Originally Posted by keepssmile
(Post 22368389)
Hi, question about BA engine - Many times it just popped up saying error: stopover is possible..... How to solve this?
Originally Posted by eng3
Also, I have registered KVS on new computer and I'm receiving an Error message sometimes but not always:
Datasource Error [R1] "Could not find an airport for SFO" Usually repeating the search a few times fixes the problem If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/ |
KVS, can you tell me if the Tool still not showing 4M flights?, because I was able to see it in the past (Awards/OneWorld option) but a friend of mine couldn't find a single seat :( with the tool.
LA in the other hand have few 4M on the lowest fare (35K kms each way). Thank you Fed PS: any discount for an inactive customer? :D |
Originally Posted by fedechat
(Post 22377327)
KVS, can you tell me if the Tool still not showing 4M flights?, because I was able to see it in the past (Awards/OneWorld option) but a friend of mine couldn't find a single seat :( with the tool.
LA in the other hand have few 4M on the lowest fare (35K kms each way).
Originally Posted by fedechat
(Post 22377327)
PS: any discount for an inactive customer? :D
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Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 22380354)
Do you have any specific 4M route(s) in mind?
Thank you |
Originally Posted by fedechat
(Post 22381132)
MIA-EZE-MIA :D :(, we tried many dates without any luck
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I was afraid of your answer :(, after QF made the change on their website (few months ago), they will not show 4M flights anymore, even at 331 days in advance.
Since KVS tool use QF system, there is no way to find 4M flights with any tool, unless we call AA/BA/QF and find a agent that know how to look on that particular airline :eek: :( Thank you |
Currently getting an error on the AC-StarAlliance award search. No matter which airports I put in I'm getting an error message:
Datasource Error [RW]: The city/airport entered cannot be found Have been using it successfully all morning and it just started to error out. |
Originally Posted by daslax
(Post 22385573)
Currently getting an error on the AC-StarAlliance award search. No matter which airports I put in I'm getting an error message:
Datasource Error [RW]: The city/airport entered cannot be found Have been using it successfully all morning and it just started to error out. If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/ |
Any chance for an iPad app or a full web version? I don't travel with a laptop.
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Originally Posted by mapu
(Post 22389898)
Any chance for an iPad app or a full web version?
http://www.KVSTool.com/Mobile-Companion-Info.php However, the main KVS Tool application requires a proper desktop/laptop/netbook to run on (PC or Mac). |
Checked availability of a UA flight, but KVS's result seems inconsistent with UA's expert mode result, which one to trust?
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For award availability can KVS send out notifications when seats become available?
Haven't used it before so thought I'd check before I sign up. |
Originally Posted by yokozuma
(Post 22400514)
For award availability can KVS send out notifications when seats become available?
Haven't used it before so thought I'd check before I sign up. |
Originally Posted by gokeeper
(Post 22399188)
Checked availability of a UA flight, but KVS's result seems inconsistent with UA's expert mode result, which one to trust?
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Trying to find a way home from IST, and a route mapper suggested IST-ZRH-YUL-CLE.
I see no FS/CS awards available: [KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD] ZRH Zurich CH [LSZH] YUL Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau/Dorval QC CA [CYUL] SAT 27 Sep 2014 | 2 Seats Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- LX 86 ZRH 12:50 YUL 15:05 333 0 FS- CS- YS- [KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-STD] TLV Tel Aviv Metro / Ben Gurion Intl IL = TLV SDV [LLBG] YUL Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau/Dorval QC CA [CYUL] SAT 27 Sep 2014 | 2 Seats Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------- SN 3292 TLV 01:20 BRU 05:00 320 0 FS/ CS- YS+ -> AC 833 BRU 10:40 YUL 12:15 333 0 FS/ CS- YS+ LH 691 TLV 05:30 FRA 09:10 321 0 FS/ CS- YS- -> AC 875 FRA 10:30 YUL 12:25 333 0 FS/ CS- YS+ LX 257 TLV 05:30 ZRH 08:50 343 0 FS/ CS+ YS- -> LX 86 ZRH 12:50 YUL 15:05 333 0 FS- CS+ YS- |
Originally Posted by TC610
(Post 22408786)
Trying to find a way home from IST, and a route mapper suggested IST-ZRH-YUL-CLE.
I see no FS/CS awards available: While looking at another route, I see the same exact flight (LX86) with CS award open. Why am I getting different results on the same segment when using a different route? |
Originally Posted by TC610
(Post 22408786)
While looking at another route, I see the same exact flight (LX86) with CS award open. Why am I getting different results on the same segment when using a different route?
Originally Posted by JIMCHI
(Post 22409140)
They are most likely what are called "paired" flights and happens when a carrier will make seats available (on the ZRH-YUL) flight for passengers connecting from a more distant and higher fare point (TLV).
Note: Segment Marriage Logic is generally intended to apply to Regular Availability only. However, occasionally, it can get [mis-]applied to Award/Upgrade Availability as well, due to a human or system error. If you run across a case of Married Segments when searching for Award/Upgrade Availability, check Availability segment-by-segment to determine the actual Award/Upgrade Availability for each flight. |
So just to clarify:
For AAA-BBB-CCC, if there is only availability on AAA-BBB but not BBB-CCC, on UA if I search AAA-CCC it will show no availability for both segments. If I search AAA-CCC in KVS, does it do every possible segment separately? or does it just search AAA-CCC on UA? Also, when I search a flight on UA website, I notice that sometimes it does not display every possible routing, I must do a multi-city search manually. Will KVS check every possible routing? |
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 22412932)
For AAA-BBB-CCC, if there is only availability on AAA-BBB but not BBB-CCC, on UA if I search AAA-CCC it will show no availability for both segments.
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 22412932)
If I search AAA-CCC in KVS, does it do every possible segment separately? or does it just search AAA-CCC on UA?
Originally Posted by eng3
(Post 22412932)
Also, when I search a flight on UA website, I notice that sometimes it does not display every possible routing, I must do a multi-city search manually. Will KVS check every possible routing?
Each Engine has its own route construction logic. |
Just to make sure, I am using a MacBook air running OS 10.9.1. The primary reason I want KVS is for access to the various Delta award buckets. It seems this is not possible with CrossOver? Would the other free emulators or virtual Windows apps work for my use?
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Originally Posted by Spicy B
(Post 22429432)
Just to make sure, I am using a MacBook air running OS 10.9.1. The primary reason I want KVS is for access to the various Delta award buckets. It seems this is not possible with CrossOver? Would the other free emulators or virtual Windows apps work for my use?
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac |
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