Open jaw and multi city search with KVS
 

I have searched extensively the forum but cannot find the info how to search multi city/open jaw with KVS?
Also my screen doesn't show the "via" option?
I signed up for diamond membership.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
HNY!!

So . . . I take it that means we can't get any fare information from KVS at all? This needs to be fixed ASAP. Can we get a status update? Thanks.

I would also like information on this especially as Fares/FC has been on the blink for months.

Holy ..... I never knew this existed.

Yes. . .same problem for me. Needs fixed!

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Hi, I'd like to use the KVS tool, but I don't have administrator privileges on my work computer. Is there a workaround? Is there a way to install it on my home computer but still "access" it from my work computer without installing? Is there a web-based version?

Thanks.

I get the same error message with Fares/PSH - hope the various problems with the fares methods will be sorted out soon -this and award availability searches are my two main uses for KVStool.

Are you allowed USB drive access? If so maybe you can run the portable version on a thumb-drive:

Cut and paste from the KVStool downloads page:

[Fares/PSH] Temporarily Unavailable
 

We are currently looking into the issue with the [Fares/PSH] Method and expect to have a resolution by no later than 10 Jan 2014.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

All trip types can be searched segment-by-segment.

The [Via] option is only supported by some Methods.

I just purchased a Diamond subscription to KVS tool and love it.

The only feature I would really really really want is the ability to show a month's worth of flights in the one screen. So when using power search, instead of stopping when it hits a date that fits the filters I apply, just keep going and show me all the valid flights within the date range I specify. That would be killer :)

Enhanced Power Search
 

Agreed, a wonderful feature would be the ability to cache ALL the results of a Power Search and view them after the search is done. This would not appear to be a major programming issue.

Having to reissue the search command after EACH hit is really burdensome.

Is the problem the possibility that the airlines may cut off the ability to search if there are too many robotic searches?

Is there any delay/lag/discrepancy between what KVS shows for award availability via the StarAlliance7D function vs the web-based ANA tool?

No, I don't have USB drive access. I take it there's no web-based or other similar way to use the tool?

No, KVS (unlike one of its competitors) is primarily a desktop tool.

If you are able to download and run the KVS Tool Setup on your computer, you should be to install the entire app into a writable folder and run it from there.

Thanks for that update. However, this problem has convinced me that for someone like me - who mostly uses KVS as a tool to look up fares - the software isn't offering the value for money that it did when I first purchased it.

When I started using the tool, I actually had to look up how each of the three methods differed slightly so as to make sure that I was using the right one. These days, I have to remember not to choose the fare method that's been in the drop down menu for a while but will probably never work again. Only to be stuck with no functioning methods at all over the course of about two weeks.

I still think KVS is a well made and well maintained tool, but this latest episode has highlighted its major flaws and inherent weakness where there's really no guarantee that any information source will still be available the day after I decide to renew my membership. None of that is anything that the author of even the best made tool can really prevent as long as he or she relies on the existence of a website that's willing to spit out the right data in the right format. Clearly, that's becoming more of a gamble than ever before and it's a gamble I'm no longer willing to make.

+1
I agree with you: we need more information about this "issue", mentioned on the website.
No fares available is a too big failure

Lack of fares availability
 

I agree - and even if they restore a fare capability, without showing the YQ (surcharges) there is not much meaning to the quoted prices.

If there is no added value above ITA I am better off using company websites and ITA.

Im fairly new to this forum but an avid traveller. On another few threads people have came up with great Bus Class fares from Dub-JFK-MCO however i would rather have a better final destination.

Does the KVS tool allow you to see the above fare rules to easily work out if there are other destination options ?

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It does when it's working properly. Right now it isn't.

Yes and no. Fare rules are often the same or quite similar for a whole list of destinations, but in my experience they will never present you with a list of possible destinations. So you'd have to try a few places to see if anything similar comes up.

If you want to see whether there are other possibilities to get from DUB to MCO, then yes, KVS can - when it works - show you the routing rules attached to a certain fare which can help you find different or additional stopovers.

Thanks. I thought it would be that and probably not of any value to me at this stage then.

KVS shows this availability. But every booking engine, including United.com, only offers me a W seat. Can anyone explain?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Just because there is availability in a particular class for this flight doesn't mean that there is an eligible fare for it at the moment. If the KVS were showing fares, you could cross-check this and the applicable rules.

Could be any number of reasons.

1. No W class fare defined between your start and end points.
2. You don't meet the advance reservation, minimum stay, or maximum stay rules for a W fare
3. W fare not available on your return leg (if a roundtrip) and the fare you are using for your return is non-combinable with a W fare, or vice-versa
4. You are booking for two or more people and only 1 W fare is offered
5. KVS listing is out of date
6. KVS listing relates to a different point of sale than that which you are looking to book from
7. Married segments
8. Starnet blocking

OK maybe not the last one.

Help?
 

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Question:

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!

I believe the poster of this particular question was wondering why there is availability below W class, but united.com only gives him/her a W class fare. In this case, there are fares cheaper than W in the market, but the routing rules require travel through IAH or DEN. The cheaper fares are not allowed on the non-stop service.

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1 and make sure that you are meeting the rules of the lower Fares:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

No, that would be technically impossible.

Resolved: [Fares/PSH] Method Issues
 

[Fares/PSH] Method issues have now been resolved.

Please restart the KVS Tool if necessary.

Hello KVS, is there a code for a long time FTers avail? I've tried YGPM on Diamond option and it says that it's not valid.

Thanx a lot, regards,
Victor

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Flights to Bkk via NRT
 

I'm trying to use KVS to find some good fares from Mia to Bkk on AA around Feb 10th. Using the Fares/PSH, I see some good fares. When I check Availability, I see Flights on AA to LHR then on TG to Bkk.
How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?

I would suggest searching one leg at a time for that.

Do you have access to the Mobile Companion? I find it works really well for AA.

I'm afraid there are still gremlins in the system. While fares show up, if I ask for fare rules I get Error retrieving fare rules: "Error".

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There are no codes, but the annual membership options do come with a 2-month bonus, which is included automatically:

http://Join.KVSTool.com/

Indeed.

Also, for AA flights please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod