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KVS Nov 18, 2013 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21807706)
KVS Tool requires CrossOver V12 or earlier (preferably V9.1.0). CrossOver V13 contains a bug that may cause "Error 35758: Unable To Retrieve Data". Search For Download Locations or contact CodeWeavers for assistance in obtaining an earlier version.

Update:

You can download an earlier CrossOver version from:
http://Media.CodeWeavers.com/pub/crossover/cxmac/demo/

daslax Nov 18, 2013 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21809377)
Update:

You can download an earlier CrossOver version from:
http://Media.CodeWeavers.com/pub/crossover/cxmac/demo/

Thanks, all good with v12

44C Nov 19, 2013 9:19 am


Originally Posted by daslax (Post 21810076)
Thanks, all good with v12

I downloaded V12 but Crossover won't let me use KVS until I upgrade to V13 which is where the problem arises.

KVS Nov 19, 2013 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by daslax (Post 21810076)
Thanks, all good with v12

Thanks for confirming.


Originally Posted by 44C (Post 21812984)
I downloaded V12 but Crossover won't let me use KVS until I upgrade to V13 which is where the problem arises.

Could you please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/?

kevinwangjk Nov 20, 2013 1:19 pm

Just purchased a Diamond subscription, and have a couple questions regarding award search:

1) Can I search, say LAX->HKG, F availability from Dec 8 - Dec 12, or do I have to do one search for each day?

2) If my trip is from SEA -> PVG, but I want to fly on CX through HKG, should I search SEA->PVG, or should I do 3 searches like SEA->LAX, LAX->HKG, and HKG->PVG?

KVS Nov 20, 2013 4:58 pm


Originally Posted by kevinwangjk (Post 21821587)
Just purchased a Diamond subscription, and have a couple questions regarding award search:

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by kevinwangjk (Post 21821587)
1) Can I search, say LAX->HKG, F availability from Dec 8 - Dec 12, or do I have to do one search for each day?

Yes, you can -- please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#PowerSearch


Originally Posted by kevinwangjk (Post 21821587)
2) If my trip is from SEA -> PVG, but I want to fly on CX through HKG, should I search SEA->PVG, or should I do 3 searches like SEA->LAX, LAX->HKG, and HKG->PVG?

You would need to search SEA-LAX + LAX-PVG or SEA-PVG, depending on the Method used.

kevinwangjk Nov 20, 2013 7:03 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21822922)
depending on the Method used.

Thanks! Can you elaborate on this?

KVS Nov 20, 2013 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by kevinwangjk (Post 21823478)
Thanks! Can you elaborate on this?

Automatic Route Construction capabilities vary by Method and range from 2 to 5 flight segments -- please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Methods

44C Nov 20, 2013 7:57 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21814946)
Thanks for confirming.



Could you please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/?

Contacted Crossover and they advised me as follows which worked:

"If you log into our website, you can download older versions of Crossover here http://www.codeweavers.com/account/d...s/?_dl=archive

I would suggest you install Crossover 12.5.1. Then when it is installed, open Crossover and click "Crossover" from the top menu bar. Select "Preferences" and choose the "Updates" tab. Here just uncheck the "Check for Crossover Updates" and you will able to remain on version 12.5.1"

flightline Nov 25, 2013 3:12 pm

I'm receiving a "Datasource Error [I]" when attempting Awards/AC-StarAlliance searches on relatively common routings that worked yesterday. Any ideas? Thanks.

KVS Nov 25, 2013 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 21853276)
I'm receiving a "Datasource Error [I]" when attempting Awards/AC-StarAlliance searches on relatively common routings that worked yesterday. Any ideas? Thanks.

Must have been a transient glitch -- please clear MSIE Cookies and restart the KVS Tool.

daslax Nov 25, 2013 7:00 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21853462)
Must have been a transient glitch -- please clear MSIE Cookies and restart the KVS Tool.

I'm getting the same error. What do I need to do using CrossOver? Was working fine this morning...

flightline Nov 25, 2013 8:17 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21853462)
Must have been a transient glitch -- please clear MSIE Cookies and restart the KVS Tool.

That seems to work for a while, but I'm now getting the error again. Clearing the cookies doesn't seem to fix it this time. Odd.

KVS Nov 26, 2013 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by daslax (Post 21854287)
I'm getting the same error. What do I need to do using CrossOver? Was working fine this morning...


Originally Posted by flightline (Post 21854644)
That seems to work for a while, but I'm now getting the error again. Clearing the cookies doesn't seem to fix it this time. Odd.

The [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine appears to experience intermittent issues at the moment.

Please clear MSIE Cookies and download KVS Tool V7.3.2.R1 to ensure that an appropriate Error Message is displayed.

sabbasolo Nov 27, 2013 2:00 pm

Are we getting better fare information back?
 
Hi, Are you planning to restore the previous fare search functionality (including YQ) any time soon? To be honest, a fare without YQ surcharges is only good for looking up rules, the price itself is meaningless.

sabbasolo Nov 27, 2013 2:04 pm

Cloud version
 

Originally Posted by Unterwegs (Post 21680460)
In today's world this should be a service in the cloud which you can use from any browser (instead of trying to come up with versions for tablets and phones, supporting Macs and all of that).

When can we get a cloud version?

I don't think KVS would work in the cloud, since it would encounter problems trying to access airline websites continuously for different users from the same IP address.

So unless the present limited access to the airline data is changed (so you don't need to log in to your account) to get the info, it won't work.
Expert Flyer tried to do this as a web application and was blocked as a result....

KVS Nov 27, 2013 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by sabbasolo (Post 21865247)
Hi, Are you planning to restore the previous fare search functionality (including YQ) any time soon?

Yes, just as soon as the relevant Engine becomes available again.

In the meantime, please double-click a Fare and use the [ITA Query Builder] function to calculate the total pricing, including Surcharges:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#ITA

midnightio Nov 30, 2013 11:24 am

I am a first time user of KVS and subscribed last week. I have looked through the docs, signed up for the ANA account, but am not having luck doing the following:

Search for upgrade availability on UA, from coach to business class, using a GPU on an eligible fare (ie W class or higher).

These are the parameters I have used:

Awards/Upgrades
Method: Awards/StarAlliance
From: AUS
To: HKG
Date: April 15, 2014
Airlines: *A Star Alliance (All 31 Member Airlines)
POS: JP-ANA-SP1
Sort By: Connections
Seats: 1

Filter
Filter Results: Yes
Availability Required in Class(es): R

Power Search
Date: 16 Apr 2014
Range: 14 Days

I have not gotten any results. What am I doing wrong or overlooking? Is 'R' the correct class to be searching for?
A PM would be great, or direction to a particular post # in this forum as I am feel my question is probably a common one.

Thanks in advance!

KVS Nov 30, 2013 11:38 am


Originally Posted by midnightio (Post 21878310)
I am a first time user of KVS and subscribed last week.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by midnightio (Post 21878310)
These are the parameters I have used:

Awards/Upgrades
Method: Awards/StarAlliance

You have selected an incorrect Method for the Class you are searching for -- please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#UA

dulcamara Dec 1, 2013 4:56 pm

I am also a new KVS user and am having the same bad luck as the most recent poster.

I am trying to get this to work and can't follow the directions. The only option I get for POS is ANA. I have tried restarting. I've never been prompted for my UA id/pw, only for the ANA id/pin.

I am on a MAC running Maverics with Crossover 12., as recommend. I can't get v9 to run under Maverics.

When I try ANA i get an error message from WINE/Crossover.

Please advise.

KVS Dec 1, 2013 8:27 pm


Originally Posted by dulcamara (Post 21884199)
I am also a new KVS user and am having the same bad luck as the most recent poster.

I am trying to get this to work and can't follow the directions. The only option I get for POS is ANA. I have tried restarting. I've never been prompted for my UA id/pw, only for the ANA id/pin.

I am on a MAC running Maverics with Crossover 12., as recommend. I can't get v9 to run under Maverics.

When I try ANA i get an error message from WINE/Crossover.

Please advise.

You need to use the [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method for UA Award/Upgrade Availability and [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] for all other Star Alliance Award/Upgrade Availability.

Please see also http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

midnightio Dec 1, 2013 9:48 pm


Originally Posted by midnightio (Post 21878310)
I am a first time user of KVS and subscribed last week. I have looked through the docs, signed up for the ANA account, but am not having luck doing the following:

Search for upgrade availability on UA, from coach to business class, using a GPU on an eligible fare (ie W class or higher).

These are the parameters I have used:

Awards/Upgrades
Method: Awards/StarAlliance
From: AUS
To: HKG
Date: April 15, 2014
Airlines: *A Star Alliance (All 31 Member Airlines)
POS: JP-ANA-SP1
Sort By: Connections
Seats: 1

Filter
Filter Results: Yes
Availability Required in Class(es): R

Power Search
Date: 16 Apr 2014
Range: 14 Days

I have not gotten any results. What am I doing wrong or overlooking? Is 'R' the correct class to be searching for?
A PM would be great, or direction to a particular post # in this forum as I am feel my question is probably a common one.

Thanks in advance!

To follow up on this prior post, I have found that to properly run this search I needed to:

Change the METHOD to [Awards-Upgrades/UA] on the 'Awards/Upgrades tab'. I think it defaults to [Awards/StarAlliance] -- or that is what I had selected.

After doing this, and running a new search I was prompted to enter my UA credentials and then I was able to run the search and check the 'R' inventory.

dulcamara Dec 2, 2013 3:30 am

[QUOTE=midnightio;21885326]To follow up on this prior post, I have found that to properly run this search I needed to:

Change the METHOD to [Awards-Upgrades/UA] on the 'Awards/Upgrades tab'. I think it defaults to [Awards/StarAlliance] -- or that is what I had selected.

Finally I found the "method" window and things are working well. The only remaining problem is ....

KVS sent me my diamond credentials overnight, but I did not get the registration number in the email. That's pretty frustrating, but easy to fix.

KVS Dec 2, 2013 3:35 pm


Originally Posted by dulcamara (Post 21886250)
Finally I found the "method" window and things are working well. The only remaining problem is ....

KVS sent me my diamond credentials overnight, but I did not get the registration number in the email. That's pretty frustrating, but easy to fix.

You just need to submit a Registration Code request via the Registration Wizard:
http://Reg.KVSTool.com/

Your original request was for the Mobile Companion access only.

Arbeiter2 Dec 3, 2013 3:17 pm

Re-registration after PC change
 
I have recently rebuilt my PC, and I have requested a new registration code, but haven't had one after two attempts. Can you help?

KVS Dec 4, 2013 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by Arbeiter2 (Post 21896977)
I have recently rebuilt my PC, and I have requested a new registration code, but haven't had one after two attempts. Can you help?

It appears that something went wrong with your 1st request.

We have now rushed a Replacement Registration Code to you via e-mail -- please confirm that you have received it.

Arbeiter2 Dec 4, 2013 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21904198)
It appears that something went wrong with your 1st request.

We have now rushed a Replacement Registration Code to you via e-mail -- please confirm that you have received it.

I just received the confirmation.

Thanks for sorting this out!

arjunv93 Dec 6, 2013 5:11 pm

Was wondering if somebody could help me and tell me what the availability of upgrade seats on QR 570 (DOH-BLR) on December 15, 2013 is?

I'm having trouble setting up KVS on my mac.

Thanks so much.

Looking for an Economy to Business upgrade.

Cheers!

selector Dec 6, 2013 8:38 pm

Crossover 13.0.1 appears to fix the error code 35758 issue...

FlyerGoldII Dec 7, 2013 10:12 am

AC fare: YOW to DXB - 2 questions
 
Two questions on this fare:

a) it is not clear to me whether there is or is not a fuel surcharge - one area under infant under 2 years old, not occupying a seat - no fuel surcharge.

But there is another area below this statement, stating that there is no fuel surcharge. A third area does state that there is a $450 fuel surcharge in both directions.

b) Free stopover cities are listed below - in the various hub cities. IST is not mentioned. In the routing rules section, it is mentioned that one can go via IST, and one can use TK on the itinerary (as long as it is not one of the flights crossing the Atlantic ocean). The question is whether when can stop over in IST (more than a 23h59min connection), for either no fee, or a minimal fee. Or for such a stopover, does one need to buy 2 tickets - one to IST, and a second one from IST to DXB.

I did see the fare rules on other Star Alliance carriers (I only wish to fly on such carriers, so I can get AQM (ie EQM/Status miles) with Aeroplan. For example, for the LX stopover rule (see immediately below) suggests that a stopover at IST is allowed for a nominal $100 fee. So does that mean if I get the ticket issued by AC, it too will allow or not allow a $100 stopover fee in the non-allowed hub sites, as per its fare rules?



[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT CAD 100.00 EACH
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EACH STOPOVER TAKEN UTILIZES A PERMITTED TRANSFER.
STOPOVERS ALLOWED ONLY AT POINTS AS PER ATTACHED
ROUTING.



[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.0/Diamond - Fare Rules: YOW-DXB/AC/ZRC11/2851 CAD]
Code:

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
AIR CANADA FARES BETWEEN CANADA - AREA 2/3
APPLICATION
 AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY
  BETWEEN CANADA AND AREA 2/AREA 3.
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS CLASS SERVICE.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
  CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
  THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
  AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
  WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
  FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER'S BEST
  JUDGEMENT.
 RULES NOT APPLICABLE
  35-PASSENGERS EXPENSES EN ROUTE.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY AC
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY LX
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY OS
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY SN
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY VO
        ANY AC FLIGHT OPERATED BY ZX.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN SOUTH
AFRICA
    THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        AC FLIGHTS 6006 THROUGH 6007
        ANY 9W FLIGHT
        ANY EK FLIGHT
        ANY KQ FLIGHT
        ANY KU FLIGHT
        ANY QR FLIGHT
        ANY UL FLIGHT.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
        AC FLIGHTS 6006 THROUGH 6007
        ANY 9W FLIGHT
        ANY EK FLIGHT
        ANY KQ FLIGHT
        ANY KU FLIGHT
        ANY QR FLIGHT
        ANY UL FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 72 HOURS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER
THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
1 FREE STOPOVER PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION IN FRA/DUS/MUC/LON/GVA/PAR/VIE/ZRH/BRU
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

[Transfers]
5 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
      3 PERMITTED IN AREA 2/AREA 3 IN EACH
    DIRECTION
      2 PERMITTED IN AREA 1 IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Surcharges]
ORIGINATING CANADA -
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER DIRECTION PER ANY
  PASSENGER.
  AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
        DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
        PER ANY PASSENGER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLICABLE
      FOR TRANSPORTATION TO/FROM CANADA.
      EXCEPTIONS -
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WIL NOT APPLY TO THE
      FOLLOWING -
      1/ TOUR CONDUCTORS DISCOUNTED TICKETS
      2/ JOINT ROUND THE WORLD TYPE FARES
      ---------------------------
      A/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED AT THE
      TIME OF TICKET ISSUANCE FOR TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA
      AND MEXICO/SOUTH AMERICA AND FOR TRANSPACIFIC
      TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS
      WITH A STOPOVER IN CANADA EXCEEDING 24 HOURS. THE
      SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 APPLIES TO ALL PASSENGERS
      AND WILL APPLY IN EACH DIRECTION.
      B/
      THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE INCORPORATED IN
      THE FARE CALCULATION SHOWN AS /Q/ SURCHARGE BY
      CONVERTING THE CAD SURCHARGE AMOUNT INTO NUC USING
      THE APPICABLE IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
      C/
      THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
      CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FURTHER
      DISCOUNTS.
      D/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL
      FROM/TO JAPAN/KOREA VIA THE ATLANTIC/PACIFIC.
      E/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL ACCRUE TO AIR CANADA
      WHEN TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA IS VIA THE SERVICES OF
      AIR CANADA.
ORIGINATING CANADA -
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR LH.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR UA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SN.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR LX.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR OS.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SK.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR ME.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR KQ.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SA.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
  AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
        DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
        PER ANY PASSENGER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLICABLE
      FOR TRANSPORTATION TO/FROM CANADA.
      EXCEPTIONS -
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WIL NOT APPLY TO THE
      FOLLOWING -
      1/ TOUR CONDUCTORS DISCOUNTED TICKETS
      2/ JOINT ROUND THE WORLD TYPE FARES
      ---------------------------
      A/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED AT THE
      TIME OF TICKET ISSUANCE FOR TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA
      AND MEXICO/SOUTH AMERICA AND FOR TRANSPACIFIC
      TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS
      WITH A STOPOVER IN CANADA EXCEEDING 24 HOURS. THE
      SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 APPLIES TO ALL PASSENGERS
      AND WILL APPLY IN EACH DIRECTION.
      B/
      THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE INCORPORATED IN
      THE FARE CALCULATION SHOWN AS /Q/ SURCHARGE BY
      CONVERTING THE CAD SURCHARGE AMOUNT INTO NUC USING
      THE APPICABLE IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
      C/
      THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
      CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FURTHER
      DISCOUNTS.
      D/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL
      FROM/TO JAPAN/KOREA VIA THE ATLANTIC/PACIFIC.
      E/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL ACCRUE TO AIR CANADA
      WHEN TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA IS VIA THE SERVICES OF
      AIR CANADA.
ORIGINATING CANADA -
  FUEL SURCHARGE OF CAD 425.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
  ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      Q SURCHARGE WILL BE APPLICABLE PER FARE COMPONENT
      AND WILL BE STRAIGHT RATE PRORATED OVER
      THE APPLICABLE FARE COMPONENT
  AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
        DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
        PER ANY PASSENGER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE APPLICABLE
      FOR TRANSPORTATION TO/FROM CANADA.
      EXCEPTIONS -
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WIL NOT APPLY TO THE
      FOLLOWING -
      1/ TOUR CONDUCTORS DISCOUNTED TICKETS
      2/ JOINT ROUND THE WORLD TYPE FARES
      ---------------------------
      A/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL BE COLLECTED AT THE
      TIME OF TICKET ISSUANCE FOR TRAVEL BETWEEN CANADA
      AND MEXICO/SOUTH AMERICA AND FOR TRANSPACIFIC
      TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS
      WITH A STOPOVER IN CANADA EXCEEDING 24 HOURS. THE
      SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 APPLIES TO ALL PASSENGERS
      AND WILL APPLY IN EACH DIRECTION.
      B/
      THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE INCORPORATED IN
      THE FARE CALCULATION SHOWN AS /Q/ SURCHARGE BY
      CONVERTING THE CAD SURCHARGE AMOUNT INTO NUC USING
      THE APPICABLE IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
      C/
      THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
      CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY FURTHER
      DISCOUNTS.
      D/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY FOR TRAVEL
      FROM/TO JAPAN/KOREA VIA THE ATLANTIC/PACIFIC.
      E/
      THE NAVIGATION SURCHARGE WILL ACCRUE TO AIR CANADA
      WHEN TRAVEL TO/FROM CANADA IS VIA THE SERVICES OF
      AIR CANADA.
ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER DIRECTION PER ANY
  PASSENGER.
ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
THE PROVISIONS BELOW APPLY ONLY AS FOLLOWS -
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR LH.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR UA.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SN.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR LX.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR OS.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SK.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR ME.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR KQ.
OR - TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON THE STOCK OF AC OR SA.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE PER ANY PASSENGER.
ORIGINATING MIDDLE EAST -
  FUEL SURCHARGE OF CAD 425.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE
  ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ANY PASSENGER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      Q SURCHARGE WILL BE APPLICABLE PER FARE COMPONENT
      AND WILL BE STRAIGHT RATE PRORATED OVER
      THE APPLICABLE FARE COMPONENT

[Sales Restrictions]
FOOTNOTE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 28FEB14.
 
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED BY ELECTRONIC TICKETING.
TICKETS MAY NOT BE SOLD IN IRAN/ARGENTINA/VENEZUELA.
TICKETS MAY ONLY BE SOLD IN AREA 1/AREA 2/AREA 3.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
      GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY CARRIER.  CONTACT
      CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

  ANY TIME
    CHARGE CAD 500.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
    CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
    WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.

CHANGES

  BEFORE DEPARTURE
    CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
    CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
    WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR O/B CHANGE
      THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE
      RECALCULATED USING CURRENT AND APPLICABLE FARES IN
      EFFECT AT THE DATE OF ISSUANCE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
      IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
      EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
      ------------------------------------------------
      BEFORE DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY - FOR I/B CHANGE
      THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE  RECALCULATED
      USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
      AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
      IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
      EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
      -------------------------------------------------
      NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
      ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
      FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
      FORFEIT.
      -------------------------------------------------
      CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
      REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
      IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC/TRANSBORDER AND
      INTERNATIONAL AC FARE COMBINATION - INTERNATIONAL
      RULE PROVISION FOR CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL
      APPLY.
      --------------------------------------------------
      PAX HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATION AND TICKETS ON
      AC OPERATED FLIGHTS ONLY MAY CONFIRM EARLIER/LATER
      SAME DAY FLIGHTS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN/DEST./STP
      POINTS FOR FREE OF CHARGE.
      -SEAT INVENTORY MUST BE AVAIL. IN THE CABIN APPLIC
        TO THE FARE CHARGED
      -CONFIRMED CHANGE MAY ONLY BE MADE AT THE AIRPORT
        ON THE DAY OF THE FLT.
      -ANY AIRPORT SAME DAY CONFIRMED CHANGES WILL NOT
        BE ABLE TO BE ADMIN. BY CALLING THE AC CALL
        CENTRE OR BY VISITING THE AC WEBSITE.
      -REGULAR FARE RULES APPLY FOR ANY CHANGES WHICH DO
        NOT QUALIFY FOR THE AIRPORT SAME DAY CONFIRMED
        CHANGE FEE
      -SAMEDAY STANBY NO ALLOWED.

AFTER DEPARTURE
    CHARGE CAD 450.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
    CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
    WAIVED FOR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      AFTER  DEPARTURE OF JOURNEY
      THE NEW BASE FARE AMOUNT MUST BE  RECALCULATED
      USING HISTORICAL AND APPLICABLE FARES IN EFFECT
      AT THE ORIGINAL TICKET DATE. CHARGE DIFFERENCE
      IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHANGE FEE IS SUBJECT TO
      EACH CHANGE TRANSACTION.
      ------------------------------------------------
      NEW FARE AMOUNT MAY BE LOWER/EQUAL OR HIGHER THAN
      ORIGINAL FARE. IF NEW FARE IS LOWER THAN ORIGINAL
      FARE-NO REFUND PERMITTED. THE RESIDUAL AMOUNT IS
      FORFEIT.
      -------------------------------------------------
      CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO SHOWS -
      REFER TO CANCELLATION PENALTY.
      IN THE EVENT OF A DOMESTIC/TRANSBORDER AND
      INTERNATIONAL AC FARE COMBINATION - INTERNATIONAL
      RULE PROVISION FOR CHANGE AND CANCELLATION WILL
      APPLY.
      --------------------------------------------------
      PAX HOLDING CONFIRMED RESERVATION AND TICKETS ON
      AC OPERATED FLIGHTS ONLY MAY COMFIRM EARLIER/LATER
      SAME DAY FLIGHTS BETWEEN THE SAME ORIGIN/DEST./
      STOPOVER
      POINTS FOR FREE OF CHARGE.
      -SEAT INVENTORY MUST BE AVAIL. IN THE CABIN APPLIC
        TO THE FARE CHARGED
      -CONFIRMED CHANGE MAY ONLY BE MADE AT THE AIRPORT
        ON THE DAY OF THE FLT.
      -ANY AIRPORT SAME DAY CONFIRMED CHANGES WILL NOT
        BE ABLE TO BE ADMIN. BY CALLING THE AC CALL
        CENTRE OR BY VISITING THE AC WEBSITE.
      -REGULAR FARE RULES APPLY FOR ANY CHANGES WHICH DO
        NOT QUALIFY FOR THE AIRPORT SAME DAY CONFIRMED
        CHANGE FEE
      -SAMEDAY STANBY NO ALLOWED.

[Combinations]
 DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED.
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
  COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
  RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
  TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS
  MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
  MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
  -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR
    CARRIER AC/LH/LX/OS/UA
    OR FOR CARRIER SN IN ANY RULE
    FOR TRAVEL VIA THE ATLANTIC.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR
STOPOVERS.
      NOTE -
      FOR ROUTING FARES - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT
      RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- VLD AC TRANSATLANTIC ONLY - AND - CXLFEE/CHGFEE - IN
THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - NO DISCOUNT.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      CHILDREN AND INFANTS USING A CHILD RESTRAINT
      DEVICE ARE NOT PERMITTED IN EXECUTIVE FIRST
      SUITES.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
      CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
          TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND PERCENT APPLIED.
      MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
        COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      CHILDREN AND INFANTS USING A CHILD RESTRAINT
      DEVICE ARE NOT PERMITTED IN EXECUTIVE FIRST
      SUITES.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - NO
      DISCOUNT.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 8-11 - NO DISCOUNT.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
      AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
      THE CHARGE FOR LOST TICKETS IS AS FOLLOWS--
      USD 75.00
      CAD 100.00
      EUR 100.00

[International Construction]
 
** ADDONS FOR INFORMATION ONLY **
FARE--RT
                        PUBLISHED AMOUNT  CONVERTED AMOUNT
ADDON      CITIES  F/B      CUR                VIA NUC
ADDON ORG  YOW-YMQ P*****  CAD        0.00  CAD        0.00
        ATP ZONE 407    ADD-ON TARIFF ACAN/985           
PUBLISHED  YMQ-DXB ZRC11    CAD      2785.00  CAD    2785.00
 
CAD CONVERTED TO USD USING BSR 1 USD - 1.0643 CAD             

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Day/Time]
NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Seasonality]
NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Changes]
ENTER RD*31 OR RD‡LINE NUM‡*31 FOR VOLUNTARY CHGS.

[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.


KVS Dec 7, 2013 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by arjunv93 (Post 21917926)
Was wondering if somebody could help me and tell me what the availability of upgrade seats on QR 570 (DOH-BLR) on December 15, 2013 is?

Do you know what QR Upgrade Booking Classes are?

KVS Dec 7, 2013 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 21921187)
Two questions on this fare:

a) it is not clear to me whether there is or is not a fuel surcharge - one area under infant under 2 years old, not occupying a seat - no fuel surcharge.

But there is another area below this statement, stating that there is no fuel surcharge. A third area does state that there is a $450 fuel surcharge in both directions.

There is a fuel surcharge of $450 per direction, except for Infants.


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 21921187)
b) Free stopover cities are listed below - in the various hub cities. IST is not mentioned. In the routing rules section, it is mentioned that one can go via IST, and one can use TK on the itinerary (as long as it is not one of the flights crossing the Atlantic ocean). The question is whether when can stop over in IST (more than a 23h59min connection), for either no fee, or a minimal fee. Or for such a stopover, does one need to buy 2 tickets - one to IST, and a second one from IST to DXB.

I did see the fare rules on other Star Alliance carriers (I only wish to fly on such carriers, so I can get AQM (ie EQM/Status miles) with Aeroplan. For example, for the LX stopover rule (see immediately below) suggests that a stopover at IST is allowed for a nominal $100 fee. So does that mean if I get the ticket issued by AC, it too will allow or not allow a $100 stopover fee in the non-allowed hub sites, as per its fare rules?

You can only have a stopover in the listed cities on the AC Fare.
The LX Fare allows a stopover anywhere on the routing.

FlyerGoldII Dec 8, 2013 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21921935)
There is a fuel surcharge of $450 per direction, except for Infants.



You can only have a stopover in the listed cities on the AC Fare.
The LX Fare allows a stopover anywhere on the routing.

Thank you, for your response.

I thought of another question, regarding the fare rules for AC, LX, or other airlines.

Let say I buy a ticket issued by AC. That means that at least one of the 2 transatlantic flights have to be designated as an AC flight on AC metal or codeshared on the other Star Alliance partners mentioned (TK is not one of them), or does it have to be both transatlantic flights (one in each direction) have to be designated by an AC flight number (ie AC metal or AC codeshared).

In this scenario, I could fly either directly to LHR or FRA on AC (in at least one direction) from/to YOW, but not in the other direction, and not on any any additional AC flights when flying intra-European flights or Europe/IST to DXB flights. So the itinerary can legally, by what is mentioned in the fare and routing rules, just include one transatlantic AC flight for the whole itinerary?

angeloedades Dec 8, 2013 1:38 pm

Hi KVS,

Do you know if this is expected behaviour or not? I am trying to view the seat map for MH807 on 18/01/2014 but it is not available. It seems that this is failing on on cabins which are zero'd out (ie no availability).

I can view the seat map for MH 805 / 803 in J without any problems but for MH 807 / 705 in J without any luck.

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code:

MNL  Manila Ninoy Aquino Intl PH [RPLL]
KUL  Kuala Lumpur Metro / Intl MY = KUL SZB [WMKK]
SAT  18 Jan 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------
MH        805    MNL  06:50    KUL  10:35    738      J4 C4 D4 Z4 I0 Y8 B3 H3 K3 M3 L3 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
MH        807    MNL  13:20    KUL  17:20    738      J0 C0 D0 Z0 I0 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N9 Q9 O9 G2
MH        705    MNL  15:05    KUL  18:50    738      J0 C0 D0 Z0 I0 Y0 B0 H0 K0 M0 L0 V0 S0 N0 Q0 O0 G0
MH        803    MNL  18:30    KUL  22:15    738      J4 C4 D4 Z4 I3 Y9 B9 H9 K9 M9 L9 V9 S9 N0 Q3 O3 G2

/AE

KVS Dec 8, 2013 6:15 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 21927090)
Thank you, for your response.

I thought of another question, regarding the fare rules for AC, LX, or other airlines.

Let say I buy a ticket issued by AC. That means that at least one of the 2 transatlantic flights have to be designated as an AC flight on AC metal or codeshared on the other Star Alliance partners mentioned (TK is not one of them), or does it have to be both transatlantic flights (one in each direction) have to be designated by an AC flight number (ie AC metal or AC codeshared).

Only one AC-marketed TATL flight would be required.

KVS Dec 8, 2013 6:17 pm


Originally Posted by angeloedades (Post 21927358)
Do you know if this is expected behaviour or not? I am trying to view the seat map for MH807 on 18/01/2014 but it is not available. It seems that this is failing on on cabins which are zero'd out (ie no availability).

I can view the seat map for MH 805 / 803 in J without any problems but for MH 807 / 705 in J without any luck.

The [Enhanced Seat Map] option requires positive Availability in the Cabin being requested.

arjunv93 Dec 8, 2013 10:42 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21921904)
Do you know what QR Upgrade Booking Classes are?

Business Award class is booked as "U" for QR.

KVS Dec 9, 2013 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by arjunv93 (Post 21917926)
Was wondering if somebody could help me and tell me what the availability of upgrade seats on QR 570 (DOH-BLR) on December 15, 2013 is?

I'm having trouble setting up KVS on my mac.

Have you followed the instructions at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac?


Originally Posted by arjunv93 (Post 21929827)
Business Award class is booked as "U" for QR.

There is no Award Availability at the moment:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

DOH  Doha Metro / Intl QA = DOH XOZ [OTBD]
BLR  Bangalore Bengaluru Intl IN [VOBG]
SUN  15 Dec 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------
                                                            No Award Availability/Route Too Complex


KVS Dec 9, 2013 5:37 pm


Originally Posted by selector (Post 21918749)
Crossover 13.0.1 appears to fix the error code 35758 issue...

Thanks for the report.

We have now updated the KVS Tool User Guide accordingly:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

RedDevil83 Dec 11, 2013 5:09 pm

keep getting an error when searching award availability (Oneworld) LHR to MIA on Dec 17th


Data Source Error [RD-2]

"Please enter a departure"


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