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KVS Dec 11, 2013 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by RedDevil83 (Post 21949709)
keep getting an error when searching award availability (Oneworld) LHR to MIA on Dec 17th

Data Source Error [RD-2]

"Please enter a departure"

There is no Award Availability on that date -- please download V7.3.2.R3 to ensure that the correct Error Message gets displayed:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
TUE  17 Dec 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------
                                                            No Award Availability/Route Too Complex


Yozza77 Dec 13, 2013 5:40 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21951381)
There is no Award Availability on that date -- please download V7.3.2.R3 to ensure that the correct Error Message gets displayed:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

LHR  London Heathrow UK [EGLL]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
TUE  17 Dec 2013

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------
                                                            No Award Availability/Route Too Complex


I have the latest update but am getting the same error message re "please enter departure" on BA award searches. The same dates work fine when searching OW awards. Any suggestions?

tjdusa Dec 14, 2013 9:42 am

Continue to get error message when looking for Award Travel on OneWorld:

Data Source Error [RD-2]

"Please enter a departure"

Please fix.

tjdusa Dec 14, 2013 9:49 am

OK, although the KVS tool said I had the latest update, I did download R4 from the website and installed it.

Problem resolved.

midnightinharlem Dec 14, 2013 1:06 pm

Hi there,

I just downloaded and installed KVS Tool and have been playing around with it. However, the Availability/FS method does not seem to show any AA flights. I am searching for CLT - LGA on 2/7/2014. There are a handful of AA flights that day but none are showing up. Am I missing something?

KVS Dec 14, 2013 1:12 pm


Originally Posted by Yozza77 (Post 21962437)
I have the latest update but am getting the same error message re "please enter departure" on BA award searches. The same dates work fine when searching OW awards. Any suggestions?

You need to download V7.3.2.R4:


Originally Posted by tjdusa (Post 21965024)
OK, although the KVS tool said I had the latest update, I did download R4 from the website and installed it.

Problem resolved.

Welcome to FT!

KVS Dec 14, 2013 1:14 pm


Originally Posted by midnightinharlem (Post 21965859)
I just downloaded and installed KVS Tool and have been playing around with it.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!


Originally Posted by midnightinharlem (Post 21965859)
However, the Availability/FS method does not seem to show any AA flights. I am searching for CLT - LGA on 2/7/2014. There are a handful of AA flights that day but none are showing up. Am I missing something?

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

midnightinharlem Dec 14, 2013 1:22 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21965883)
Welcome to the KVS Tool!



Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

Thanks a lot KVS. That did it, though not every AA flight is showing up. Searching CLT - LGA using Availability/ETR for 3/21/2014, and only AA 3594 appears. Google Flights shows several flights for that day. Any idea?

KVS Dec 14, 2013 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by midnightinharlem (Post 21965908)
Thanks a lot KVS. That did it, though not every AA flight is showing up. Searching CLT - LGA using Availability/ETR for 3/21/2014, and only AA 3594 appears. Google Flights shows several flights for that day. Any idea?

You need to specify the Airline:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:

CLT  Charlotte Douglas NC US [KCLT]
LGA  New York La Guardia NY US [KLGA]
FRI  21 Mar 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AA        3594    CLT  06:00    LGA  07:50    CR7  0  Y7
AA        3565    CLT  11:15    LGA  13:25    CR7  0  Y7
AA        3567    CLT  13:45    LGA  16:00    CR7  0  Y7
AA        3199    CLT  18:10    LGA  20:20    CR7  0  Y7


midnightinharlem Dec 14, 2013 1:35 pm

Got it. Thanks KVS!

armature Dec 16, 2013 1:16 pm

I'm still learning what KVS is telling me...

I'm looking for two business class award seats on 25 Feb 2014 from AUS to MAD. KVS shows an IB flight (IB 6250) with CS+ availability from JFK to MAD. However, the AA representative on the phone says that there is zero business class award availability on that flight. What am I reading incorrectly?

KVS Dec 16, 2013 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by armature (Post 21976100)
I'm still learning what KVS is telling me...

I'm looking for two business class award seats on 25 Feb 2014 from AUS to MAD. KVS shows an IB flight (IB 6250) with CS+ availability from JFK to MAD. However, the AA representative on the phone says that there is zero business class award availability on that flight. What am I reading incorrectly?

IB is known to have system connectivity issues with its partners.
There is no C Award Availability on that flight, according to the [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.2/Diamond - Awards/BA-OneWorld]
Code:

JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
MAD  Madrid Barajas ES [LEMD]
TUE  25 Feb 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
IB        6250    JFK  17:00    MAD  06:20 +1          CS0  WS/  YS2
AA        94      JFK  19:05    MAD  08:30 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
AA        66      JFK  17:25    BCN  07:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> IB    2723    BCN  08:50 +1  MAD  10:20 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
AA        66      JFK  17:25    BCN  07:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> IB    2725    BCN  09:10 +1  MAD  10:40 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
AA        66      JFK  17:25    BCN  07:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> IB    2727    BCN  09:45 +1  MAD  11:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
AA        66      JFK  17:25    BCN  07:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> IB    2729    BCN  10:10 +1  MAD  11:35 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
BA        112    JFK  18:30    LHR  06:25 +1          CS0  WS9  YS9
 -> BA    458    LHR  07:25 +1  MAD  10:50 +1          CS0  YS9
BA        112    JFK  18:30    LHR  06:25 +1          CS0  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  512    LHR  09:10 +1  MAD  12:45 +1          CS0  YS9
BA        174    JFK  18:55    LHR  06:55 +1          CS0  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  512    LHR  09:10 +1  MAD  12:45 +1          CS0  YS9
BA        176    JFK  19:20    LHR  07:20 +1          CS0  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  512    LHR  09:10 +1  MAD  12:45 +1          CS0  YS9
AA        106    JFK  19:25    LHR  07:35 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> BA/IB  512    LHR  09:10 +1  MAD  12:45 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
BA        116    JFK  20:15    LHR  08:15 +1          CS0  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  514    LHR  10:40 +1  MAD  14:15 +1          CS0  YS9
AA        104    JFK  20:30    LHR  08:35 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
 -> BA/IB  514    LHR  10:40 +1  MAD  14:15 +1          CS0  WS/  YS7
BA        172    JFK  20:55    LHR  08:45 +1          CS9  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  514    LHR  10:40 +1  MAD  14:15 +1          CS9  YS9
BA        114    JFK  21:30    LHR  09:25 +1          CS8  WS9  YS9
 -> BA/IB  514    LHR  10:40 +1  MAD  14:15 +1          CS8  YS9
BA        114    JFK  21:30    LHR  09:25 +1          CS8  WS0  YS0
 -> BA/IB  510    LHR  11:35 +1  MAD  15:10 +1          CS8  YS0


frequentflyingdutchman Dec 17, 2013 3:24 am

Hello all,

I was wondering the following: I often see flucuating ticket prices. For instance: A KLM ticket that was 86 euros on monday afternoon, 109 on mondag evening and 88 on tuesday morning. I'm wondering if KVS could give me any useful information about these fluctuations (chances of price going down for instance). Edit: Just found the answer to my first questions:


You found a trip and are unsure if you should purchase it now, put it on-hold, or wait for the price to go down.

Click the [Fares] Tab and select the [Fares/PSH] Method. Double-click the fare to see the applicable Fare Rules. Note any pertinent restrictions (e.g. "must be ticketed at least 14 days prior to departure"). If your departure date is 15 days away, you will know that the price will definitely increase tomorrow, since you will no longer qualify for the current fare. You will also know the amount of the fare increase you would be facing, since you can see the next fare up.
Click the [Availability] Tab and select the [Availability/FS] Method. Note Availability for the desired flights. If there are just a few seats left in the corresponding Booking Class, then you should put the booking on-hold ASAP to reserve the space.
Also I was wondering if there are any trials available?

Edit2: In addition to that, I was wondering if Easyjet, Ryanair, Wizzair are supported?

Thanks in advance!

KVS Dec 17, 2013 7:35 pm


Originally Posted by frequentflyingdutchman (Post 21979565)
I was wondering the following: I often see flucuating ticket prices. For instance: A KLM ticket that was 86 euros on monday afternoon, 109 on mondag evening and 88 on tuesday morning. I'm wondering if KVS could give me any useful information about these fluctuations (chances of price going down for instance). Edit: Just found the answer to my first questions:

Also I was wondering if there are any trials available?

The 2-month Membership options are the shortest available:
http://Join.KVSTool.com/


Originally Posted by frequentflyingdutchman (Post 21979565)
Edit2: In addition to that, I was wondering if Easyjet, Ryanair, Wizzair are supported?

LCCs do not use the Availability system.
However, Schedules and Flight Status are supported for most LCCs.

Premiere Elite - YEG Dec 17, 2013 11:31 pm

I've been loving KVS for quite awhile and have just downloaded Crossover so I can get my KVS love at home on my Mac. When do you think the bug will be fixed that generates this message, "The [Awards/StarAlliance]/[Awards/StarAlliance-7D] Methods cannot currently function under CrossOver Mac (Error Message: "Engine Error SF1-BSY/SF1-BKM" or "ANA"), due to a bug in the CrossOver/WINE system itself. Please use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method instead (Diamond level membership is required)."?

KVS Dec 18, 2013 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by Premiere Elite - YEG (Post 21985478)
I've been loving KVS for quite awhile and have just downloaded Crossover so I can get my KVS love at home on my Mac. When do you think the bug will be fixed that generates this message, "The [Awards/StarAlliance]/[Awards/StarAlliance-7D] Methods cannot currently function under CrossOver Mac (Error Message: "Engine Error SF1-BSY/SF1-BKM" or "ANA"), due to a bug in the CrossOver/WINE system itself. Please use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method instead (Diamond level membership is required)."?

Unfortunately, the WINE/CrossOver teams do not provide any specific ETAs when it comes to their bugs.

For immediate access to the Methods in question, you may wish to consider using one of the other Mac solutions instead: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

buylowsellhigh Dec 18, 2013 11:36 pm

Are *A Awards still available for search on KVS? Seems like the functionality was killed off on the "other" search engine. Other tool was a bit easier to read and had a lower learning curve, but now that I've learned a bit, seems that KVS is not too big an issue to learn ;)

KVS Dec 19, 2013 10:51 am


Originally Posted by buylowsellhigh (Post 21992201)
Are *A Awards still available for search on KVS? Seems like the functionality was killed off on the "other" search engine.

KVS Tool users continue to enjoy 100% Star Alliance Award Availability coverage:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes

Wei Pang Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

I purchased the 12m diamond membership several days ago. However, I did not get any email after a temporary registration code. Could you please help me?

KVS Dec 19, 2013 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by Wei Pang (Post 21997944)
I purchased the 12m diamond membership several days ago. However, I did not get any email after a temporary registration code. Could you please help me?

Please check your E-Mail Inbox.

wolfson292 Dec 19, 2013 10:37 pm

I am running into an error running a Skyteam Award search on CZ, LAX to CAN to SYD. I've tried individual segments and LAX to SYD and the majority of the time I receive an error "Datasource Error [RD] Engine Error/Date Out-of-Range", but I am searching dates in Feb 2014. Once in a great while the tool will return a result without error, but there seems to be no pattern to it. I am able to log into the AirFrance website and run the same search without any problems.

KVS Dec 19, 2013 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by wolfson292 (Post 21998590)
I am running into an error running a Skyteam Award search on CZ, LAX to CAN to SYD. I've tried individual segments and LAX to SYD and the majority of the time I receive an error "Datasource Error [RD] Engine Error/Date Out-of-Range", but I am searching dates in Feb 2014. Once in a great while the tool will return a result without error, but there seems to be no pattern to it. I am able to log into the AirFrance website and run the same search without any problems.

Could you please provide a specific search example and a screenshot from AF.com?

wolfson292 Dec 19, 2013 11:04 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21998628)
Could you please provide a specific search example and a screenshot from AF.com?

http://s23.postimg.cc/h84z9cm7r/Scr...4_59_35_PM.jpg

wolfson292 Dec 19, 2013 11:09 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 21998628)
Could you please provide a specific search example and a screenshot from AF.com?

Looking at this in more detail, for days on which a calendar search on AF shows availability KVS will return the flights, but on days which their are no openings it returns an error instead of no flights. This makes the new power search feature unusable.

KVS Dec 20, 2013 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by wolfson292 (Post 21998695)
Looking at this in more detail, for days on which a calendar search on AF shows availability KVS will return the flights, but on days which their are no openings it returns an error instead of no flights.

It is an issue with the Engine itself as it is returning an error when there is no Award Availability.


Originally Posted by wolfson292 (Post 21998695)
This makes the new power search feature unusable.

For [Power Search], you may wish to use the [Availability/FS] Method instead:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#CZ

belfordrocks Dec 20, 2013 8:42 pm

For the SkyTeam (AF) method, I am seeing certain flights (mostly MU) where there is availability A-B-C but nothing shows when you search B-C itself. Availability/FS option shows zero. Is it safe to assume there is no availability on the flight in question or are they applying married segment logic to awards too?

Also seems to be a large discrepancy between the SkyTeam-AF and the Availability-FS options when it comes to MU flights in general.

KVS Dec 21, 2013 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by belfordrocks (Post 22004198)
For the SkyTeam (AF) method, I am seeing certain flights (mostly MU) where there is availability A-B-C but nothing shows when you search B-C itself. Availability/FS option shows zero. Is it safe to assume there is no availability on the flight in question or are they applying married segment logic to awards too?

Also seems to be a large discrepancy between the SkyTeam-AF and the Availability-FS options when it comes to MU flights in general.

The [Awards/SkyTeam] Method does not support MU flights.
We have updated the KVS Tool User Guide and [Availability/ETR] is now the preferred Method for MU Award Availability:

http://Help.KVSTool.com/#MU

belfordrocks Dec 21, 2013 4:58 pm

Thank you :-:

Karlson Dec 27, 2013 11:10 pm

hi everyone, sorry I think I got the most idiotic question in this tread, but I just can't figure out. I use KVS tool for a long time, but I was looking for couple fares and wanted to try to find using this fare(ITA)

It takes me to http://www.kvstool.com/ITAQueryBuilder/

on top it says Copy-and-Paste these values into the corresponding fields in the frame below.

I put the dep. and arrival routing codes

for example:
WAS :: /F UA.WAS+SAO.KLX2G9LN for departure
SAO :: /F UA.WAS+SAO.KLX2G9LN for arrival


[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

IAD Washington Dulles Intl DC US [KIAD]
SAO Sao Paulo Metro SP BR = GRU CGH VCP
R/T 10 Jun 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier From To Fare Cur AdvanceP Min Max Fare Basis | Travel Period
--------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- --- --------------------------
UA WAS SAO 1043 USD 21 Days 7 KLX2G9LN 11 Mar-18 Jul


I keep getting No flights found.


Am I doing something wrong or just all flights are sold out and ita tool won't show them.

Again, sorry for stupid question, but I tried searching and couldn't find such stupid idea like I just had :)

Thanks!

KVS Dec 28, 2013 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by Karlson (Post 22038771)
hi everyone, sorry I think I got the most idiotic question in this tread, but I just can't figure out. I use KVS tool for a long time, but I was looking for couple fares and wanted to try to find using this fare(ITA)

It takes me to http://www.kvstool.com/ITAQueryBuilder/

on top it says Copy-and-Paste these values into the corresponding fields in the frame below.

I put the dep. and arrival routing codes

for example:
Code:

WAS :: /F UA.WAS+SAO.KLX2G9LN for departure
SAO :: /F UA.WAS+SAO.KLX2G9LN for arrival

I keep getting No flights found.

Am I doing something wrong or just all flights are sold out and ita tool won't show them.

Again, sorry for stupid question, but I tried searching and couldn't find such stupid idea like I just had :)

After copying-and-pasting the Departure/Arrival values, select the [Calendar Of Lowest Fares] option (say 01 Apr 2014, 7 nights).

pschafer Dec 28, 2013 8:42 pm

BA-OneWorld Method and AB
 
I am having trouble getting the BA-OneWorld method (or any other method) to find AB awards - I get error messages like - enter valid departure date (which I did) or destination is not supported (e.g. IST, SAW and AYT both give this error).

Any suggestions?

JIMCHI Dec 28, 2013 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by pschafer (Post 22043020)
I am having trouble getting the BA-OneWorld method (or any other method) to find AB awards - I get error messages like - enter valid departure date (which I did) or destination is not supported (e.g. IST, SAW and AYT both give this error).

Any suggestions?

I'm showing award availability (Y) on AB flights next October (ex. Oct 1 JFK-TXL) . I'm using version 7.3.1.R2 of KVS and using the Awards OneWorld search.

pschafer Dec 28, 2013 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 22043345)
I'm showing award availability (Y) on AB flights next October (ex. Oct 1 JFK-TXL) . I'm using version 7.3.1.R2 of KVS and using the Awards OneWorld search.

thanks, I also have the most recent version and can get some routes to show but ones to cities in Turkey are giving me the problem.

KVS Dec 28, 2013 10:50 pm


Originally Posted by pschafer (Post 22043020)
I am having trouble getting the BA-OneWorld method (or any other method) to find AB awards - I get error messages like - enter valid departure date (which I did) or destination is not supported (e.g. IST, SAW and AYT both give this error).


Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 22043345)
I'm showing award availability (Y) on AB flights next October (ex. Oct 1 JFK-TXL) . I'm using version 7.3.1.R2 of KVS and using the Awards OneWorld search.


Originally Posted by pschafer (Post 22043387)
thanks, I also have the most recent version and can get some routes to show but ones to cities in Turkey are giving me the problem.

AB does not fly to IST/SAW. The [Awards/BA-OneWorld] Engine does not currently support AYT, but [Awards/OneWorld] does:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]
Code:

BER  Berlin Metro / Brandenburg DE = BER TXL SXF [EDDB]
AYT  Antalya TR [LTAI]
MON  01 Sep 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive        St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AB        2542    TXL  06:00    AYT  10:10          0  YS+
AB        6185    TXL  06:20    MUC  07:35          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6183    TXL  07:20    MUC  08:35          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6187    TXL  08:15    MUC  09:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6193    TXL  09:15    MUC  10:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6419    TXL  21:25    NUE  22:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    3730    NUE  03:05 +1  AYT  07:05 +1      0  YS+
AB        8752    TXL  21:30    VIE  22:45          0  YS+
 -> HG    2394    VIE  04:40 +1  AYT  08:10 +1      0  YS+
AB        6491    TXL  06:25    CGN  07:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    6115    CGN  10:05    MUC  11:15          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6491    TXL  06:25    CGN  07:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    6117    CGN  12:00    MUC  13:10          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6491    TXL  06:25    CGN  07:30          0  YS+
 -> AB    6113    CGN  08:10    MUC  09:20          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6493    TXL  08:10    CGN  09:15          0  YS+
 -> AB    6115    CGN  10:05    MUC  11:15          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6493    TXL  08:10    CGN  09:15          0  YS+
 -> AB    6117    CGN  12:00    MUC  13:10          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+
AB        6489    TXL  09:10    CGN  10:15          0  YS+
 -> AB    6117    CGN  12:00    MUC  13:10          0  YS+
 -> AB    2876    MUC  14:25    AYT  18:25          0  YS+


pschafer Dec 29, 2013 2:26 am

OK, thanks, will adjust my searches.

masamiegami Dec 30, 2013 1:20 am

Hi. I just bought the KVS tool which looks very good but I do not know how to use it... can you direct me where I can learn about it? I also want to know quickly how to see information about Sky Team RTW?

JIMCHI Dec 30, 2013 8:15 am


Originally Posted by masamiegami (Post 22048727)
Hi. I just bought the KVS tool which looks very good but I do not know how to use it... can you direct me where I can learn about it? I also want to know quickly how to see information about Sky Team RTW?

Click on the ? mark in the upper right hand corner, then click on "user guide"

rnz Dec 30, 2013 11:32 pm

Happy New Year everyone.

run into this weird error message with any search combination under Fares/PSH,

"//mc.yandex.ru/watch/1193454"

anyone has a clue??? please help.

Avnu Dec 31, 2013 4:20 am


Originally Posted by rnz (Post 22054620)
Happy New Year everyone.

run into this weird error message with any search combination under Fares/PSH,

"//mc.yandex.ru/watch/1193454"

anyone has a clue??? please help.

I'm having the same problem, but it looks like there's not much we can do. The site where KVS gets the info has changed some of its pages causing KVS to trip up. Without an update to the software, the Fares/PSH method won't work :(

rnz Dec 31, 2013 10:58 am


Originally Posted by Avnu (Post 22055217)
I'm having the same problem, but it looks like there's not much we can do. The site where KVS gets the info has changed some of its pages causing KVS to trip up. Without an update to the software, the Fares/PSH method won't work :(



ok.... i thought i was the only one.


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