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Fims Jan 14, 2009 8:34 am

I do not know if everyone has the same problem, but I can't retrieve fares with both methods... it gaves

datasource error ""
in the morning it was working all right and i have not modified any settings on my pc...

KVS Jan 14, 2009 11:53 am


Originally Posted by Fims (Post 11073832)
I do not know if everyone has the same problem, but I can't retrieve fares with both methods... it gaves in the morning it was working all right and i have not modified any settings on my pc...

All systems are functioning normally at the moment.

Pls see http://faq.kvstool.com/#Errors

Fims Jan 16, 2009 8:44 am

Now yes, they are again working again :)

FlyerGoldII Jan 25, 2009 7:10 pm

I was looking at Sabre Dot/Res for cheapest TK fares from JFK to DEL via SAW (Instanbul). It indicates for dates in question (departure in Feb and arrival in Mar) that cheapest base fare is about $505 (CAN) - G fare basis. Your Galileo and Sabre ITN fare availability functionalities indicate that there are plenty of G fare seats available on all 4 flights, for the any pair of dates we are interested in.

However, the TK web site (US) indicates that the cheapest fare (including taxes and fees) is over US$1600. Can you explain this discrepancy?

gleff Jan 25, 2009 7:39 pm

I have no problem whatsoever pulling up TK flights with fare basis GPRO1M.

Pricing US$857.40 for JFK-IST-DEL and v.v. and includes US$280 fuel surcharge and other taxes.

I cannot tell you why you are not seeing this for your particular flights, but of course you haven't provided your dates. Are you complying with the Saturday night stay requirement? And not staying beyond the 1 month maximum permitted with this fare?

KVS Jan 25, 2009 8:00 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 11141186)
I was looking at Sabre Dot/Res for cheapest TK fares from JFK to DEL via SAW (Instanbul). It indicates for dates in question (departure in Feb and arrival in Mar) that cheapest base fare is about $505 (CAN) - G fare basis. Your Galileo and Sabre ITN fare availability functionalities indicate that there are plenty of G fare seats available on all 4 flights, for the any pair of dates we are interested in.

However, the TK web site (US) indicates that the cheapest fare (including taxes and fees) is over US$1600. Can you explain this discrepancy?

Could be an availability issue (http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors) -- you may wish to give TK a call or use a different booking channel to get the lower fare (GPRO1M).

FlyerGoldII Feb 2, 2009 9:40 pm

I could not find these business class fares on either Sabre functionality on the KVS tool (searching on multiple dates, from various US gateways).

link: http://www.united.com/page/article/1...serviceclass=2

KVS Feb 2, 2009 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 11190932)
I could not find these business class fares on either Sabre functionality on the KVS tool (searching on multiple dates, from various US gateways).

link: http://www.united.com/page/article/1...serviceclass=2

Here they are:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.4/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  04 May 2009 / TUE  12 May 2009 / RT / Economy

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
UA        NYC    SYD      721  USD                      LAU31W/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD      760  USD                      KAU99
UA        NYC    SYD      893  USD                      TAU31W/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD      898  USD                      LAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1098  USD                      TAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1298  USD                      SAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1452  USD                      SLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    1658  USD                      WLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    1758  USD                      WLXRT
UA        NYC    SYD    1858  USD                      WLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    1902  USD                      VLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    2148  USD                      VLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    2563  USD                      QLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    3223  USD                      HLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    3282  USD                      QLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    3873  USD                      MLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    4142  USD                      HLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    4603  USD                      BLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    4733  USD                      ZXUSA4
UA        NYC    SYD    4982  USD                      MLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    5233  USD                      ZWUSA4
UA        NYC    SYD    5942  USD                      BLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    8233  USD                      YROX
UA        NYC    SYD    8261  USD                      ZXUSA3
UA        NYC    SYD    8261  USD                      ZWUSA3
UA        NYC    SYD    9118  USD                      YR
UA        NYC    SYD    10261  USD                      ZXUSA2
UA        NYC    SYD    10261  USD                      ZWUSA2
UA        NYC    SYD    11566  USD                      YOX
UA        NYC    SYD    11966  USD                      Y


onlysuites Feb 3, 2009 12:46 am

Any chance on showing EK D class availability in your tool in the near future?

KVS Feb 3, 2009 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by lallyr (Post 11191603)
Any chance on showing EK D class availability in your tool in the near future?

Not unless EK decides to show it in the system, or joins an alliance ...

ual744777sta Feb 3, 2009 12:48 pm

Joining an alliance isn't always guaranteed too to show award availability.

FlyerGoldII Feb 3, 2009 3:46 pm

Thanks, for the information.

Oh, I now see the problem. I was just looking under business class fares - and did not see any Z fares. They are listed under economy fares.

Somewhere under the FAQ section you have responded to the question? - that discounted business class fares are sometimes (or always) listed under economy fares, rather than business class fares? If they are listed under economy fares on occasion, and under business class fares on other occasions - can you tell me under what circumstances are they listed under each?

For Air NZ Z class fares, I should look under economy fares (note - as indicated in a previous posting, the fare tools do not show C or D fares under business class fares - only economy class fares)?

Conversely, do you not mention in FAQ that certain "economy" fares are listed under business (first) class fares? For example, the UA MUP/YUP type fares - are they listed under economy or business (first) class fares?





Originally Posted by KVS (Post 11191061)
Here they are:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.4/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
SYD  Sydney Kingsford Smith NS AU [YSSY]
MON  04 May 2009 / TUE  12 May 2009 / RT / Economy

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
UA        NYC    SYD      721  USD                      LAU31W/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD      760  USD                      KAU99
UA        NYC    SYD      893  USD                      TAU31W/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD      898  USD                      LAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1098  USD                      TAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1298  USD                      SAU57
UA        NYC    SYD    1452  USD                      SLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    1658  USD                      WLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    1758  USD                      WLXRT
UA        NYC    SYD    1858  USD                      WLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    1902  USD                      VLXWEB/UAC
UA        NYC    SYD    2148  USD                      VLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    2563  USD                      QLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    3223  USD                      HLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    3282  USD                      QLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    3873  USD                      MLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    4142  USD                      HLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    4603  USD                      BLRT
UA        NYC    SYD    4733  USD                      ZXUSA4
UA        NYC    SYD    4982  USD                      MLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    5233  USD                      ZWUSA4
UA        NYC    SYD    5942  USD                      BLOW
UA        NYC    SYD    8233  USD                      YROX
UA        NYC    SYD    8261  USD                      ZXUSA3
UA        NYC    SYD    8261  USD                      ZWUSA3
UA        NYC    SYD    9118  USD                      YR
UA        NYC    SYD    10261  USD                      ZXUSA2
UA        NYC    SYD    10261  USD                      ZWUSA2
UA        NYC    SYD    11566  USD                      YOX
UA        NYC    SYD    11966  USD                      Y



KVS Feb 3, 2009 4:36 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 11196348)
Thanks, for the information.

Oh, I now see the problem. I was just looking under business class fares - and did not see any Z fares. They are listed under economy fares.

Somewhere under the FAQ section you have responded to the question? - that discounted business class fares are sometimes (or always) listed under economy fares, rather than business class fares? If they are listed under economy fares on occasion, and under business class fares on other occasions - can you tell me under what circumstances are they listed under each?

For Air NZ Z class fares, I should look under economy fares (note - as indicated in a previous posting, the fare tools do not show C or D fares under business class fares - only economy class fares)?

Conversely, do you not mention in FAQ that certain "economy" fares are listed under business (first) class fares? For example, the UA MUP/YUP type fares - are they listed under economy or business (first) class fares?

The exact conditions are unknown, so the only way to find-out is to simply try and see what comes back.

xUP fares would come under the definition of "discount Business/First-class fares" in the context of the FAQ.

fjgolder Feb 9, 2009 12:18 pm

Cookies and emulator
 
I am trying to use KVS on my mac with the Crossover emulator. The tool works well until I try the UA/upgrade mode. I get an error message insisting that I need to enable cookies, yet I am sure they are enabled on all my web browsers. Any suggestions?

KVS Feb 9, 2009 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by fjgolder (Post 11228044)
I am trying to use KVS on my mac with the Crossover emulator. The tool works well until I try the UA/upgrade mode. I get an error message insisting that I need to enable cookies, yet I am sure they are enabled on all my web browsers. Any suggestions?

Try accessing the Cookies settings via the purple Settings button in the KVS Tool...


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