Thanks, for the information. The implication (of your statement) is that one should always double-check KVS tool system fare quotes, through other means, whether it is through the airline (web site, reservations agent), travel booking web site, travel agent etc. The KVS tool fare quote may not be the cheapest (published) fare that can be quoted.

The sabre dot.res fare quotes the U fare as $2400. Are you saying that this sabre system has not yet updated the U fare to reflect the current cost of $1600.

The corollary questions are how long does it take for the GDS systems to reflect the current fares of AC (or other airlines); would any KVS tool fare system currently reflect the up-to-date fare?

What date are you looking for specifically?

Because AC.com doesn't show the necessary pricing details, it wouldn't be possible to accurately answer such questions at this time...

Saturday August 9 departure; Saturday Aug 16 return.

PS-The restricted "first" class UA fare is about $2200, and the restricted business class AC fare is $3400. These seem to match on the sabre and airlines' web sites.

Just wanted to share my appreciation for this great tool.
Just discovered it days ago and will definitely "contribute" aka buy it soon.

Why is it called "contribute" though? Tax reasons?

Awesome tool!
 

I contributed for the platinum subscription recently and have already used it frequently. Found this tool to be very useful. Nice work, KVS!

A few comments for you KVS -
1. OneWorld Award search generally shows flight availability for AA, BA and QF. Is there anyway we can see availability on other OW carriers?
2. While searching for OW award flights out of DEL airport, it returns an error. Can you look into it?

Thanks once again for the great utility you are offering. Worth it IMHO.

Sabre Fare/DotRes Routing Rules AC YOW-DEL ZOMSIND fare
 

I am trying to book a Z class fare AC ticket from YOW to DEL in March. The base fare, per the ac.com web site and also the Sabre site, is CAN $4580. Here are the fare routing rules (see below):

I have a few questions:

I tried to book a route through the AC reservations agent, confirming the rules with her. I booked YOW-YYZ-LHR (stopover), LHR-ZUR-DEL, DEL-ZUR (stopover), ZUR-LHR-YOW, using the allowable airlines (ie LX on LHR - ZUR, both directions).

Her computer generated a fare of $11,000+. Neither of us knew why it was not quoting a rate of $4580. She went to the rates department, who indicated that the fare rules state that one must go from the stopover to DEL (presuming there is not a second stopover between the first stopover and DEL) using the most direct routing and airline (in this case LHR-DEL using BA or VS). One can not, as I was trying do with the $4580 rate, go between DEL and LHR in both directions, via ZUR (using LX) as a transit point. Where in the routing rules displayed below, does it say that an indirect route between LHR and DEL, via an otherwise allowable city (eg ZUR) used for transit, can not be used? I presume if I stopped in both LHR and ZUR in both directions (>24 hr stopover), I could have gone between LHR and ZUR in both directions using LX?


I then asked her to change the itinerary: YOW to DEL via ZUR without stopping over, and DEL back to YOW with a stopover in ZUR. This time her computer quoted a rate of about $6500+. Z fare seats were available in all segments, according to her computer, and according to the KVS tool. She sent it back to the rates department again for review - we are awaiting their response. We could not figure out why the AC computer would not automatically price this itinerary at (a base rate of) $4580. Can you figure that one out?









[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.2/Platinum - WSpan: YOW-DEL/AC/Z0MSIND/4580 CAD]

1. OneWorld award search currently supports QF/BA/AA/AY/IB/MA/LA.
2. This is a limitation of that award availability engine (you can check awards to DEL, but not from DEL). I will be looking into possible ways of solving this issue ...

Routing rules specify that you must fly via one of the following ("/" = "or"): ZRH/FRA/MUC/PAR/LON.

So what's their response?

I just got the answer.

The SE reservations agent had booked Z class fare, both on AC and on LX. She had forgotten the a given booking code on one airline may not be the same booking code on the second airline. A "Z" booking code on AC is equal to a "J" booking code on LX. With this change (from "Z" on LX to "J" on LX), the fare did come out to $4580.

Does the KVS tool have a mechanism of converting a booking code on one airline (eg AC) to a second booking code on the second airline (with this fare basis, 5 other airlines, besides AC, can be used)?

No, this information is not a part of the fare or routing rules, and cannot be obtained using the KVS Tool.

OneWorld Award Search is not displaying any BA flights since this morning. Is anyone else having a similar problem? KVS, can you look into it? Thanks!

I was able to confirm that the QF OW Award search engine is currently not returning any BA flights. This may possibly be caused by a [temporary] data link loss issue between BA and QF ...

I am trying to use the 4 access methods (Apollo, Galileo, Sabre, WSpan) to get booking code availability on LX between BOS and DEL.

No problems (from beginning of March through to end of April) getting such information from BOS to DEL (via ZUR). However, trying the reverse direction, I either get a message that no flights available (esp with Galileo) or there is a error message stating something like this is not a valid itinerary. Why the problems with obtaining the information from DEL to BOS via ZUR; while full information seems to be forthcoming from BOS to DEL via ZUR? I also seem to have the same problems with access of such information for the individual flights: DEL-ZUR or ZUR-BOS (again on LX only)?

Everything appears to work as it should in both directions. I am guessing that the error messages are caused by your use of a non-existent airport code ("ZUR").

[KVS Availability Tool 3.0.2/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]