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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com

You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.

A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.

Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:

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Old Jun 2, 22, 10:13 am
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There’s a checkbox at the bottom, “only show flights with availability”. That will exclude RBDs that are sold out.
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Old Jun 2, 22, 10:44 am
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I believe the command is F ~bc=Q&~bc=V etc
However its returning flights where the RBD is not sold out, its just giving me a fare with the included RBD's whether it's sold out or not
I specifically want it to return flights which are only available in a minimum of H
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Old Jun 2, 22, 2:10 pm
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Note that the bc syntax sets the prime booking code of the fare covering the flight, not the actual bucket that the fare books on a particular flight. For instance, a BA F- fare will be selected with bc=F, and will usually book F, but it may book into Y if an aircraft does not offer any of F, A, J, C, D, R, I.
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Old Jun 2, 22, 2:17 pm
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Originally Posted by stijnec View Post
when clicking on the link in Chrome on the matrix final results page which is howing the price for me itinary, I get the message BookWithMatrix can only work with the final results pages. Click on the price to view the final "Itinerary details" page before using it!what did I do wrong? it used to work in the past and I think Im on the right page
We have a thread discussing Book with Matrix and another one announcing the Chrome extension:
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Old Jun 3, 22, 1:30 am
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how to price upgradeable PE

Hello, I'm really hoping someone can help me with a search - I was sort of ok before Covid, but I'm out of practice and struggling to read the guides for this. If anyone can help me with how I can set it up so I can look for best fares I'd be so grateful!. The parts that are hard are that I want to fly BA (or AA now), with a BA GUF, paying for Premium Econ but upgrading to Business with the GUF. So I need to look for availability in the upgraded cabin, but price the PE (I assume that's two separate searches). So I think this is the hard part, what code do I need to show 'upgradeable' PE?

We also want to fly from London/Dublin/Amsterdam (ie happy to depart from various positions) to SNA/LAX, and return from MIA/TPA to Barcelona, so I assume I need to do various searches with each country?

Thank you for any quidance you can give me!
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Old Jun 3, 22, 2:15 am
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You need award space for that and ITA Matrix can’t show you that. Use the BA reward flight finder (or whatever it’s called) to find award space. Then check if any of those days have ok PE prices.
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Old Jun 3, 22, 3:18 am
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Thanks ChocolateFactory I think it's reward availability, plus I class on BA and C class on AA, that's why I was hoping there might be a code to find that availbility on ITA? Then I can check the price of PE? I think?!
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Old Jun 3, 22, 3:26 am
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No, I is paid business class, as far as I can tell. That’s not relevant here. As far as I know (I’ve never used such upgrades myself, but I’m assuming it’s similar to upgrading for Avios).
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Old Jun 3, 22, 6:30 am
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Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
Is there anyway to specify flights which are only open in a minimum RBD? E.g., to only show flights which are H class or above, but not lower RBDs because they are already closed for sale.
Originally Posted by hugolover View Post
I believe the command is F ~bc=Q&~bc=V etc
However its returning flights where the RBD is not sold out, its just giving me a fare with the included RBD's whether it's sold out or not
I specifically want it to return flights which are only available in a minimum of H
If the availability checker is on, then ITA will not return a result where the applicable booking class has no zero inventory.

If you're seeing a result that uses a particular booking class on a flight on which you think there is zero inventory, then it's very likely that something else is going on. There may be point-of-sale issues, or married-sector issues, that mean that you can see zero inventory for that booking class on that flight using some sources, and yet there is inventory in that booking class for the itinerary that you are asking ITA to price.

As always: availability is not like tins of baked beans on a supermarket shelf. There is not always only one single answer to the question "Is there any availability in M class on this particular flight?"

But without more details as to what you're seeing and what you're asking for, it's difficult to be more specific.

In addition, one of the difficulties with "a minimum of H" is that on some airlines, that could be asking for a large number of booking classes, but with other airlines, it could be very few. That may be why there is no single shortcut to such a specification.

Originally Posted by jh321 View Post
The parts that are hard are that I want to fly BA (or AA now), with a BA GUF, paying for Premium Econ but upgrading to Business with the GUF. So I need to look for availability in the upgraded cabin, but price the PE (I assume that's two separate searches). So I think this is the hard part, what code do I need to show 'upgradeable' PE?
What is upgradeable? I think that what you need to do is to find the price for the upgradeable PE itinerary, for which ITA is great, and then entirely separately looking (probably using some other tool like EF) whether there is inventory in the booking class you need to upgrade into. If there are some PE itineraries/fares that are not upgradeable, you simply have to specify your ITA search so as to exclude them. But first of all, you need to find out what PE fares are upgradeable.
Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory View Post
No, I is paid business class, as far as I can tell. Thatís not relevant here. As far as I know (Iíve never used such upgrades myself, but Iím assuming itís similar to upgrading for Avios).
I'm a bit rusty on BA GUFs, but I think that there are circumstances in which I class can be used. (Similarly, there are now circumstances in which some I class inventory can be used for straightforward award flights using an Amex companion voucher.)

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Old Jun 3, 22, 7:24 am
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I don’t know anything about GUFs, but as far as I know, all PE fares can be upgraded to business class, at least for Avios. But you need award availability (which I believe is U class). I can’t imagine an upgrade cert would give you a revenue booking class, even if it’s the lowest one (I). But I don’t know for sure. To find U class availability, BA’s reward flight finder would probably be the best tool.
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Old Jun 3, 22, 8:06 am
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Originally Posted by ChocolateFactory View Post
I canít imagine an upgrade cert would give you a revenue booking class, even if itís the lowest one (I).
See BA Gold Upgrade Voucher Discussion and Wiki Thread
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Old Jun 3, 22, 9:14 am
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Wow, I had no idea. First time I’m seeing an actual benefit with being BA Gold over BA Silver…
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Old Jun 3, 22, 5:27 pm
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I'm still having a heck of a time getting the matrix to spit out the real options the way it used to - the way Google flights does for flexible dates, except without the one/two week limitation. This time it's especially frustrating:

So we want to fly to JNB or DUR this September. We're good with repositioning, so I always check WAS/NYC/CHI on Google flights. It finds a ton of $727 rates (actually $755 direct, no problem) on Ethiopian IAD-JNB, including our preferred week at the end of the month . I go to ask the same WAS/NYC/CHI-JNB/DUR for 24Sep-1Oct but with +/- two days, set it to no limit x2, and get... Some $849 flights on Kenya from JFK, but no sign of the $727/$755 Ethiopian flights from IAD.

Ok, fine, I'll list the usual suspects individually: JFK,LGA,EWR,IAD,DCA,ORD. That adds some $842 Delta flights out of various NYC airports (where were they last search?) but still no sign of the Ethiopian flights. Ok, fine, let's try to find JUST the actual flights - IAD-JNB. There's Ethiopian finally, but they start at $845. I take off the +/- 2 days - still just the $845. I'm massively confused at this point, and just for the heck of it, I try WAS-JNB. There it is at the $755 price! But I'm back to the $845 flights again when I add the +/- two days back in.

What is going on? If it's a matter of too much to search, why aren't these flights showing when I search for JUST the IAD-JNB on 24Sep-1Oct option? It does find it just fine if I add ET+ as a routing code, but that's not particularly helpful - I want to be able to use the matrix like I used to, to find options without already knowing the exact flights I'm looking for!
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Old Jun 4, 22, 12:46 pm
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Thanks for your replies .

I'll try explaining it another way. I want it to return flights where only higher RBDs are open (in the case of fares, they match the RBD hence this command is OK). For example in the context of say BA. Business inventory is J/C/D/R/I. If I is open, R is open, and up the chain. I want it to show me only flights where C is the lowest RBD available and exclude flights where D/R/I are closed.

Using the F ~bc=D& its not excluding RBDs that are closed, its just pricing the trip higher, just like if I were to ask for only C fares. My results are presenting flights where even I is open.

Is there anyway to do this?
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Old Jun 4, 22, 2:32 pm
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You can’t do that (as far as I know). The best way would be to use the calendar view and look for days with higher prices.
I have used that when I wanted to book a higher booking class on SN - since you can then rebook it for other dates for free and keep the higher booking class.
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