Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Jun 4, 2022, 6:45 pm
#2296
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,593
This is not true. If you book an I class fare for (eg) AMS-LHR-JNB-LHR-AMS, the AMS-LHR and LHR-AMS flights will book in to J and the trip will price and be bookable even if I is closed on those flights.
2. This is not universally true, either. There are times when (say) D may have zero inventory but R will have some. It's rare, but it can happen.
2. This is not universally true, either. There are times when (say) D may have zero inventory but R will have some. It's rare, but it can happen.
. Works that way on many carriers including LH Group, A segments and J feeder, Y feeder for F on LO, but in my case it's not relevant which is why I wrote that I dismissed it because the fare first letter matched the RBD.2) Again, possible and I was just giving an example of how inventory tends to be sold, I wasn't interested in anything below J or C actually.
From other replies it seems it's not possible, which is fair enough, probably no one would want it so far.
I'll just stick to the old fashioned and time consuming way of checking each flight. Never mind, thanks for all the replies.
Jun 5, 2022, 1:07 am
#2297
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
You don’t have to check each flight.
SN Booking in specific booking class
Basically you just use filters to make sure only the flights you’re interested in will show up (e.g. specifying “BA+”).
Then you go to the calendar view and click on the days with higher prices until you find the booking class you want. That’s it.
SN Booking in specific booking class
Basically you just use filters to make sure only the flights you’re interested in will show up (e.g. specifying “BA+”).
Then you go to the calendar view and click on the days with higher prices until you find the booking class you want. That’s it.
Jun 7, 2022, 6:02 pm
#2298
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
Hello, I'm really hoping someone can help me with a search - I was sort of ok before Covid, but I'm out of practice and struggling to read the guides for this. If anyone can help me with how I can set it up so I can look for best fares I'd be so grateful!. The parts that are hard are that I want to fly BA (or AA now), with a BA GUF, paying for Premium Econ but upgrading to Business with the GUF. So I need to look for availability in the upgraded cabin, but price the PE (I assume that's two separate searches). So I think this is the hard part, what code do I need to show 'upgradeable' PE?
Jun 10, 2022, 12:04 pm
#2299
Join Date: May 2022
Posts: 30
How to find 2+ legs in BC for European flights
I probably need 1 (U)XP-run at end of year in BC with 2 legs or more, preferably in Europe. How would I instruct https://partnerdash.google.com/apps/matrix/search to search for just that? It doesn't seem possible. Any ideas? Or maybe an idea for a different tool?
Jun 21, 2022, 3:36 pm
#2300
Join Date: May 2013
Location: SAN, LAX
Programs: JMB, Bonvoy, Hyatt
Posts: 237
I appreciate the effort to modernize ITA Matrix so that it can be kept around (instead of killed off like other Google products in the past). I do hope these issues can be worked through and improved upon.
FWIW I'm running into an issue on the frontend that makes it unusable for me. I'd enter a single origin and destination, enable advanced options. When I fill in all the routing and extension code fields, and then pick something that isn't "This day only" for both dates, advanced options will auto close and wipe out all of my advanced input. I hope this is something that can be fixed because it is pretty difficult to use in the current state.
FWIW I'm running into an issue on the frontend that makes it unusable for me. I'd enter a single origin and destination, enable advanced options. When I fill in all the routing and extension code fields, and then pick something that isn't "This day only" for both dates, advanced options will auto close and wipe out all of my advanced input. I hope this is something that can be fixed because it is pretty difficult to use in the current state.
Jun 22, 2022, 9:54 am
#2301
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,947
ITA Hacker there is still a really bizarre UI bug in the new interface, which I am pretty sure I reported via the feedback link, but posting about it again here on FT to boost the signal since it has been at least a few months.
Steps to reproduce, starting from a clean slate:
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Steps to reproduce, starting from a clean slate:
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@ITA Hacker any help here? I hope this gets fixed before oldmatrix gets shut down for good...
Jul 14, 2022, 9:41 am
#2304
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
I tried this and it seems to work -- I get results back, and none of the UA itineraries use -LGT fares. Can you provide a more-specific recipe to reproduce this?
Jul 14, 2022, 9:44 am
#2305
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: PIT
Programs: OZ Diamond, UA Gold
Posts: 9,926
Jul 18, 2022, 5:49 am
#2306
Join Date: Jul 2022
Posts: 2
None of the other sites that the powertools pump the data through to actually come up with the price ITA Matrix quotes.
So the question is, does the ITA Matrix software actually check flights that are live and available, or could it be that they are flights that are already full ??
Sorry if this is a nooby question, but it's a powerful site that is not much use if the theory can't be converted into a ticket.
Jul 25, 2022, 1:22 pm
#2307
Company Representative - ITA Software
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cambridge, MA
Posts: 362
Jul 25, 2022, 2:28 pm
#2308
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
It's a typical issue with TK. ITA Matrix isn't showing correct availability. The question comes up here every couple weeks.
Aug 13, 2022, 8:36 am
#2309
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 155
need help trying to book a flight ive found on ita
it seems that an IB marketed, AA operated flight has been completely fabricated by ITA.
The 7:50pm flight doesn't exist anywhere - even on AA's website.
I think this is the reason i can't book it with powertools.
The flight is "found" on Priceline, but when i put payment details in, and click the purchase button, it says this flight no longer exists.
Priceline link: LINK
Is it possible that with a small tweak somewhere, i am able to change the fabricated segment to a genuine flight, allowing me to book for the same price??
Any help would be hugely appreciated.
thanks
here are the details:
it seems that an IB marketed, AA operated flight has been completely fabricated by ITA.
The 7:50pm flight doesn't exist anywhere - even on AA's website.
I think this is the reason i can't book it with powertools.
The flight is "found" on Priceline, but when i put payment details in, and click the purchase button, it says this flight no longer exists.
Priceline link: LINK
Is it possible that with a small tweak somewhere, i am able to change the fabricated segment to a genuine flight, allowing me to book for the same price??
Any help would be hugely appreciated.
thanks
here are the details:
Aug 13, 2022, 8:58 am
#2310
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,125
need help trying to book a flight ive found on ita
it seems that an IB marketed, AA operated flight has been completely fabricated by ITA.
The 7:50pm flight doesn't exist anywhere - even on AA's website.
I think this is the reason i can't book it with powertools.
The flight is "found" on Priceline, but when i put payment details in, and click the purchase button, it says this flight no longer exists.
Priceline link: LINK
Is it possible that with a small tweak somewhere, i am able to change the fabricated segment to a genuine flight, allowing me to book for the same price??
Any help would be hugely appreciated.
thanks
here are the details:
it seems that an IB marketed, AA operated flight has been completely fabricated by ITA.
The 7:50pm flight doesn't exist anywhere - even on AA's website.
I think this is the reason i can't book it with powertools.
The flight is "found" on Priceline, but when i put payment details in, and click the purchase button, it says this flight no longer exists.
Priceline link: LINK
Is it possible that with a small tweak somewhere, i am able to change the fabricated segment to a genuine flight, allowing me to book for the same price??
Any help would be hugely appreciated.
thanks
here are the details:
I think the issue is the codeshare flight as published by IB is incorrect. I looked at the schedule on EF MIA-LHR on that date and it agrees with the search results you posted.
Results from https://www.ExpertFlyer.com
Code:
Flight Timetables Search: Search MIA to LHR on 09/04/22 Flight Stops Depart Arrive Aircraft Duration Frequency Effective Ending AA 38 0 MIA 7:30 PM LHR 9:25 AM +1 77W 8 hrs 55 mins Daily 08/16/22 09/06/22 IB (AA) 4251 0 MIA 7:50 PM LHR 9:25 AM +1 77W 8 hrs 35 mins Daily 08/16/22 10/28/22