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ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
#2236
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
Try with the PowerTools or use a good travel agent like https://www.milesaddict.com or https://www.skytravelagent.de
#2237
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Austin, TX (AUS)
Programs: I have a frequent flyer account with pretty much any airline to exist. Usually use AA and OW.
Posts: 35
#2238
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
I would simply contact Sky Travel Agent and ask - I have never used them, but heard good things. They also build mileage/tier runs etc.
I'm surprised that MilesAddict wouldn't at least give you a recommendation for a US travel agent if they can't help personally...
I'm surprised that MilesAddict wouldn't at least give you a recommendation for a US travel agent if they can't help personally...
#2239
Moderator: Hyatt; FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: WAS
Programs: :rolleyes:, DL DM, Mlife Plat, Caesars Diam, Marriott Tit, UA Gold, Hyatt Glob, invol FT beta tester
Posts: 18,947
#2240
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Austin, TX (AUS)
Programs: I have a frequent flyer account with pretty much any airline to exist. Usually use AA and OW.
Posts: 35
#2241
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,868
I'm trying to put together a trip to Australia, and I'm getting different results from Google flights vs either version of the ita matrix. For a 24 Sep - 1 Oct HNL-SYD-HNL trip, Google flights finds the cheapest Jetstar rate at $468, while the matrix finds the same flights at $587. I checked the Australian site to make sure it wasn't just flubbing up the currency somehow, but that doesn't appear to be the case - the prices quoted on the Australian site don't match the matrix either. Anyone know why this would happen?
#2243
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,868
It's the fare component itself that makes up most of the difference - most of the fees are identical, and the ones that aren't only differ by small amounts. The fare component is $144.96 for each leg in Google flights and directly from Jetstar, and $204.03 on each through the matrix. I would have thought that either there US or Australia would require them to detail a fee like that, but I'm admittedly not all that knowledgeable about these things.
#2244
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
ITA Hacker I have a suggestion for ITA Matrix and/or Google Flights (maybe you can suggest this to the right team):
It would be great to be able to filter on the seat type/pitch, maybe in addition to flight duration, e.g. “lie flat or angled flat seats in flights longer than 4 hours”. Or “lie-flat seats only”. Google Flights definitely has that info. I don’t think any search engine offers that.
It would be great to be able to filter on the seat type/pitch, maybe in addition to flight duration, e.g. “lie flat or angled flat seats in flights longer than 4 hours”. Or “lie-flat seats only”. Google Flights definitely has that info. I don’t think any search engine offers that.
#2246
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: HPN, LAX, HNL, or somewhere in between
Programs: UA 1K, JetBlue Mosaic
Posts: 436
Getting "Sorry, we encountered an internal error." performing the following search:
Departing from: ABQ, ALB, ANC, ATL, AUS, AZA, BDL, BHM, BNA, BOI, BOS, BUF, BUR, BWI, CHS, CLE, CLT, CMH, CVG, DAL, DCA, DEN, DFW, DSM, DTW, ELP, EWR, FAT, FLL, GEG, GRR, GSO, GSP, HNL, HOU, HPN, IAD, IAH, IND, JAX, JFK, KOA, LAS, LAX, LGA, LGB, LIH, LIT, MCI, MCO, MDW, MEM, MIA, MKE, MSN, MSP, MSY, MYR, OAK, OGG, OKC, OMA, ONT, ORD, ORF, PBI, PDX, PHL, PHX, PIE, PIT, PNS, PSP, PVD, PWM, RDU, RIC, RNO, ROC, RSW, SAN, SAT, SAV, SDF, SEA, SFB, SFO, SJC, SJU, SLC, SMF, SNA, SRQ, STL, SYR, TPA, TUL, TUS, TYS, XNA
Destination: BCN, MAD, PMI, IBZ
Dates: See calendar of lowest fares
Departing: 06/01/2022
Length of Stay: 7 nights
Adults: 1
Cabin: Business class or higher
Stops: No Limit
Extra stops: No Limit
Request
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Destination: BCN, MAD, PMI, IBZ
Dates: See calendar of lowest fares
Departing: 06/01/2022
Length of Stay: 7 nights
Adults: 1
Cabin: Business class or higher
Stops: No Limit
Extra stops: No Limit
Request
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#2249
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,125