Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
Mar 7, 2018, 1:53 pm
#1531
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Mar 7, 2018, 1:56 pm
#1532
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Hi FTers,
I know this is a bit of a stretch as the fare is low anyway, but I'm looking to see if there's any way to add a leg to SFO before the one to IAD. When I'm trying it's jumping up 3x, 4x the price. Is there anything I'm doing wrong or is it just not possible?
If not, any way to trim the price a bit further?
https://imgur.com/a/lTPSw
I know this is a bit of a stretch as the fare is low anyway, but I'm looking to see if there's any way to add a leg to SFO before the one to IAD. When I'm trying it's jumping up 3x, 4x the price. Is there anything I'm doing wrong or is it just not possible?
If not, any way to trim the price a bit further?
https://imgur.com/a/lTPSw
Mar 8, 2018, 2:31 am
#1534
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- POS selection on ITA isn't 100% reliable. So ba.com may see inventory that ITA can't see (or vice versa) because the availability shown by ITA isn't the actual to the market whose availability ought to be being shown. This unreliability includes manual selection of the POS city - it doesn't always work.
- I think that ITA can see BA DIFs on some routes, but not on others. I don't know why this is, but my surmise is that some DIFs are still coded as private fares but others are coded as public fares. Obviously, ITA has a better chance of returning the latter. On my most common routes, I think that HKG DIFs aren't seen by ITA but JNB DIFs are. So this could account for what you've seen.
- ITA fare quotes include BA's GDS fee. That's £8 or USD 10 per fare component, or a similar sum in other currencies. This means that ITA quotes are now reliably higher than ba.com quotes, but if you allow for this fee the match is normally exact. That won't account for (or for all of) that €200 difference, though.
- ITA caching could give duff results. But I have only very very rarely seen this myself.
Mar 9, 2018, 2:28 pm
#1536
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Mar 9, 2018, 3:41 pm
#1537
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Hey FTers,
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I'm trying to see if there's anyway to get a higher booking class for flights on the dates in the screenshot, eventually some classes that can be upgraded via Miles&More. I can be flexible on the airlines and dates, just want to make sure I can maximize earning/benefits on this route before buying.
https://imgur.com/a/06X8J
Sorry if this is a bit off topic but I'm trying to see if there's anyway to get a higher booking class for flights on the dates in the screenshot, eventually some classes that can be upgraded via Miles&More. I can be flexible on the airlines and dates, just want to make sure I can maximize earning/benefits on this route before buying.
https://imgur.com/a/06X8J
If that is too complicated consult a travel agent, its their job to price you the exact fare class you wish to book
Mar 11, 2018, 2:42 pm
#1538
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Yes, just look up which fare class you want each segment to price in (K, L, S, Y,...) and then add it as an advanced routing code on ITA with /f bc=Y bc=K .....
If that is too complicated consult a travel agent, its their job to price you the exact fare class you wish to book
If that is too complicated consult a travel agent, its their job to price you the exact fare class you wish to book
e.g., fc=F will give results for fares with prime code F, but may still result in sectors booked into Y
Mar 12, 2018, 10:10 am
#1539
Formerly known as cagalindo
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Please help
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This ticket has come up for a few days on ITA Matrix but I can't find it on any booking site. Any ideas?
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My only guess is it must be booked from a certain country?
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This ticket has come up for a few days on ITA Matrix but I can't find it on any booking site. Any ideas?
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My only guess is it must be booked from a certain country?
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Last edited by caGALINDO; Mar 12, 2018 at 12:28 pm
Mar 12, 2018, 10:42 am
#1541
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POS could be an issue as well, but I can't test that.
Mar 12, 2018, 11:29 am
#1542
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Thank you Globaliser, does seem to be an issue with married-segment logic.
EDIT: See below
EDIT: See below
Last edited by caGALINDO; Mar 12, 2018 at 11:59 am
Mar 12, 2018, 11:56 am
#1543
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Use multi-city search: first flight IST-DOH on 7/19 and second flight DOH-CNX also on 7/19.
From search results, select flights QR240 and QR922 respectively.
Hit Continue, etc.
Mar 12, 2018, 12:04 pm
#1544
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aktchi you're right, it just wasn't showing up direct to CNX. I was playing around further with this & also found it bookable another way.
ITA Matrix Powertools > Click through to Kayak > Click through to Qatar website
Future reference for anyone else.
Thanks
EDIT: Seems fare still isn't bookable, after entering passenger information on Qatar site it throws an error.
- We are unable to confirm the fare for the flights you have selected. Please choose a different fare or flights and resubmit your request. (15012 - 421)
EDIT 2: There seems to be a lot of throwaway ticket deals from Europe > Asia (CNX - Final dest.) > Random City on Qatar. I found one that I could actually book for $280 with a "stopover" in CNX then continue to Yerevan. Just to CNX it's pricing at $500+
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aktchi you're right, it just wasn't showing up direct to CNX. I was playing around further with this & also found it bookable another way.
ITA Matrix Powertools > Click through to Kayak > Click through to Qatar website
Future reference for anyone else.
Thanks
EDIT: Seems fare still isn't bookable, after entering passenger information on Qatar site it throws an error.
- We are unable to confirm the fare for the flights you have selected. Please choose a different fare or flights and resubmit your request. (15012 - 421)
EDIT 2: There seems to be a lot of throwaway ticket deals from Europe > Asia (CNX - Final dest.) > Random City on Qatar. I found one that I could actually book for $280 with a "stopover" in CNX then continue to Yerevan. Just to CNX it's pricing at $500+
Last edited by caGALINDO; Mar 12, 2018 at 5:44 pm
Mar 15, 2018, 4:41 pm
#1545
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I'm looking to book a set of flights YVR-AKL-BNE-YVR-BWI-YVR. I'd like to stay on *A but it doesn't have to be a specific airline. Is there a way to specify the YVR-AKL and BNE-YVR flights to be in premium economy, but the remainder can be in Y? I don't think I can specify fare classes since PE may be different classes depending on the airline. Is there a +CABIN code for PE?
Last edited by silver_halide; Mar 15, 2018 at 11:18 pm Reason: Wrong code for Auckland