Jun 4, 2014, 6:07 pm
Last edit by: TWA884
ITA Matrix Search: http://matrix.itasoftware.com
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
You can sometimes see flights, fares and detailed fare rules that may not be reflected on an airline's website. Please read the thread for some tips and tricks, screen shots, etc.
A related thread, ITA-Matrix-PowerTools - Userscript for Orbitz/DL/UA/AA/BA/CZ/IB/LA/LH/LX/TK, discusses a user script which is maintained by fellow flyertalk members to enhance the already powerful Matrix of ITA Software by providing new features and booking links.
Additional details and tips on the use of ITA's advanced routing code feature can be found in the following long-standing Mileage Run Discussion threads:
ITA Software Matrix Airfare Search Consolidated Information and Help Thread
May 3, 2018, 1:40 pm
#1607
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,178
There are all sorts of possible reasons why ITA might have decided to do this; I can't even begin to hazard a guess as to what they were. But one thing I can express is a hope: if complexity is reduced, then maybe the search results that are returned will become more accurate. IME, there have been increasing (reproducible) instances of things not being quite right in search results. Experience of using ITA has taught me when to ignore the glitches and press on to get an accurate final result, but there is the potential for this to improve search results.
May 3, 2018, 2:00 pm
#1608
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Spitalfields, London
Programs: BA Gold, KFC 'The Colonel's Club' Palladium tier, Mucci des Visions Célestes du Nord-Pas-de-Calais
Posts: 2,328
All well and good except the links to actually book never work with Google flights, or at least on more complex itineraries. ITA power tools and bookwithmatrix were *much* more reliable in their handover.
May 3, 2018, 2:24 pm
#1609
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 1,178
Would it help if you use GF for mult-city search and copy the itinerary you want onto ITA? It always work for me that way.
May 3, 2018, 2:36 pm
#1610
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Spitalfields, London
Programs: BA Gold, KFC 'The Colonel's Club' Palladium tier, Mucci des Visions Célestes du Nord-Pas-de-Calais
Posts: 2,328
May 3, 2018, 3:49 pm
#1611
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: DXB
Programs: Marriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, BA Silver, A3 Gold, Sixt Diamond
Posts: 2,812
It would be nice if they could at least allow the "nearby airports" option to be restricted to the same country.
Then at least you'd only have to repeat this for one airport in every country you're interested in.
Then at least you'd only have to repeat this for one airport in every country you're interested in.
May 3, 2018, 7:00 pm
#1612
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 57
One by one, Google seem to be systematically destroying their once great products.
The big downside to this one is that there isn't a competitor out there for us to use instead
May 3, 2018, 8:57 pm
#1613
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: LTN
Programs: Aeroflot Bonus, British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 463
No need for Alex Cruz to get involved at all - this is Google, and they're very good at "enhancing" their products all by themselves. Maps has gone to s**t, news has gone to s**t, finance has gone completely - it's no surprise to me that they've made another of their products less useful than it was.
One by one, Google seem to be systematically destroying their once great products.
The big downside to this one is that there isn't a competitor out there for us to use instead
One by one, Google seem to be systematically destroying their once great products.
The big downside to this one is that there isn't a competitor out there for us to use instead
Microsoft is becoming better and open source friendly since about 2013.
Google is an ad company that it destroys products which people uses but isn't ad-useful, but Microsoft is a real tech company where they can earn $$$ by offering great products.
May 4, 2018, 6:44 am
#1614
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA, UA, GE
Posts: 5,126
I am turning to Microsoft except still using Google search.
Microsoft is becoming better and open source friendly since about 2013.
Google is an ad company that it destroys products which people uses but isn't ad-useful, but Microsoft is a real tech company where they can earn $$$ by offering great products.
Microsoft is becoming better and open source friendly since about 2013.
Google is an ad company that it destroys products which people uses but isn't ad-useful, but Microsoft is a real tech company where they can earn $$$ by offering great products.
May 4, 2018, 7:16 am
#1615
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: Etihad Plat, A3*G, HHonors DIA, GHA Plat
Posts: 44
This is bad... I've been getting the same error lately and thought it'll go after a couple of days. Apparently not!
This "enhancement" is particularly making quick open jaw searches impossible. Especially in Europe there are a ton of combination possibilities, and it was certainly possible to get faily accurate results in the past when restricting results to certain airlines or fare classes but therefor being able to look at a lot of country combinations at once. Not anymore
The really annoying thing is - there's absolutely nothing that could be considered an alternative.
This "enhancement" is particularly making quick open jaw searches impossible. Especially in Europe there are a ton of combination possibilities, and it was certainly possible to get faily accurate results in the past when restricting results to certain airlines or fare classes but therefor being able to look at a lot of country combinations at once. Not anymore
The really annoying thing is - there's absolutely nothing that could be considered an alternative.
May 5, 2018, 11:20 pm
#1616
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: LTN
Programs: Aeroflot Bonus, British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 463
I actually relied on this origin open jaw across countries to find a discounted economy ticket to Europe two weeks before Easter when nearly all tickets were sold out from my nearest airport.
May 6, 2018, 10:17 am
#1617
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Great Britain
Programs: Air: QR Silver. BA Silver Emirates, Hotels: CC Gold, IHG Spire AMB, Hilton Diamond.
Posts: 1,488
Not likely, given that all of the information is still there, and it simply takes a little more effort to get it.
"Total disaster"? That must be from the school of hyperbole! Anyone who's prepared to do a bit of legwork will still see what's on offer. And it might even be more accurate now than it has been.
"Total disaster"? That must be from the school of hyperbole! Anyone who's prepared to do a bit of legwork will still see what's on offer. And it might even be more accurate now than it has been.
May 7, 2018, 11:01 pm
#1619
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: LTN
Programs: Aeroflot Bonus, British Airways Executive Club
Posts: 463
It seems that ITA matrix has some issue in currency handling when making the fare construction:
When I use a pricing currency different from the sale and origin, the ROE field in the fare construction is specified in the currency in the origin but not the pricing currency, but various fees and taxes are shown as the pricing currency.
When I use a pricing currency different from the sale and origin, the ROE field in the fare construction is specified in the currency in the origin but not the pricing currency, but various fees and taxes are shown as the pricing currency.