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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by FliesCasually
I'd hoped to hear a pin drop was still available from the forum...

I'll use it to send myself the location of places I've been. And similarly I'll prepare a list of map URLs of destinations/attractions when I'm travelling. I really like map locations as URLs clickable on any platform.
In your post, you asked two questions, I attempted to answer this one:

Originally Posted by FliesCasually
Any way that I can browse before "buying" with the new maps?
Holding an iPhone with iOS 6 installed is the only way I'm aware of that you could try the new maps app before you "buy." I offered you a suggestion on how to perhaps accomplish that.

Someone else would have to address the pin drop question; I haven't installed iOS 6 and have no immediate plans to do so.

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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 6:39 pm
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I finally got around to downgrading to iOS 5.1.1

All went well initially but when I tired to do a restore - from both iTunes and iCloud - was warned that restore was not possible because the phone's "software is too old."

Hmm...
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by anrkitec
I finally got around to downgrading to iOS 5.1.1

All went well initially but when I tired to do a restore - from both iTunes and iCloud - was warned that restore was not possible because the phone's "software is too old."

Hmm...
Was the backup that you were trying to restore from created with iOS 6 before you attempted to downgrade?

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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu
Was the backup that you were trying to restore from created with iOS 6 before you attempted to downgrade?

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I had trouble with iCloud backup after downgrading until I deleted the existing backup and re-backed up.

But today I re-upgraded. I remembered that I can use HopStop for mass transit in NYC.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by scubadu
Was the backup that you were trying to restore from created with iOS 6 before you attempted to downgrade?

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Nope - and the iCloud backup absolutely was iOS 5.1.1 as I have iCloud set to manual and haven't backed up to it for more than a week.
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Old Sep 21, 2012 | 9:04 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
I had trouble with iCloud backup after downgrading until I deleted the existing backup and re-backed up.

But today I re-upgraded. I remembered that I can use HopStop for mass transit in NYC.
I just started using my SII in the U.S. now as well as abroad - problem solved.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 1:31 am
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Someone in the WSJ was quoted as saying the new Maps app was a "total failure." But at least while driving, I actually prefer the iOS 6.0 maps application. Unlike my chatty TomTom app, the new Apple turn-by-turn just gives me what I need. Each upcoming street is clearly marked, and there isn't a lot of extraneous stuff on the screen.

Agreed that the lack of pedestrian & public transportation thing is certainly a bummer for those that were relying on on that in Google Maps. But so far, I'm OK with the new maps.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 12:43 pm
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I didn't have any issue with icloud backup after upgrading my iphone 4 to ios6. It just worked.

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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 1:32 pm
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All this stuff over turn by turn has been in google nav for so long now

Oh but 'flyover' isn't, I don't need to see a false roller coaster road or bridge anyway, do you?
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 3:28 pm
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Yeah, I agree that the whole "flyover" and "3D" thing is way overblown. It's not really useful.

I would much, much prefer being able to type a street address into Apple Maps and not get a "no results found". Really? You can't find "111 w 46 st ny, ny"?
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 4:54 pm
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
Yeah, I agree that the whole "flyover" and "3D" thing is way overblown. It's not really useful.

I would much, much prefer being able to type a street address into Apple Maps and not get a "no results found". Really? You can't find "111 w 46 st ny, ny"?
You know, an interesting thing about Apple's cockup with their pathetic maps app is that I never really appreciated just how much of my personal smartphone usage was tied in one way or another to GoogleMaps and its integration into the phone/OS/other apps.
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Old Sep 22, 2012 | 10:03 pm
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Originally Posted by anrkitec
You know, an interesting thing about Apple's cockup with their pathetic maps app is that I never really appreciated just how much of my personal smartphone usage was tied in one way or another to GoogleMaps and its integration into the phone/OS/other apps.
Yeah. I'm torn. I re-upgraded to iOS 6 because I'm a computer geek who can't stand not being totally up to date.

But, if this isn't fixed in a year when it's time for me to upgrade phones, I will definitely go back to Android. I'm halfway there already - Android integration with my life on Gmail is much better.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 3:10 am
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Originally Posted by gfunkdave
Yeah. I'm torn. I re-upgraded to iOS 6 because I'm a computer geek who can't stand not being totally up to date.

But, if this isn't fixed in a year when it's time for me to upgrade phones, I will definitely go back to Android. I'm halfway there already - Android integration with my life on Gmail is much better.
For a lot of iPhone users, there is the cost of migrating away because recovering the functionality of the paid iOS apps may involve having to buy applications yet again.

Paid-software has a tendency to lock people into not wandering too far from what they used before.
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
For a lot of iPhone users, there is the cost of migrating away because recovering the functionality of the paid iOS apps may involve having to buy applications yet again.

Paid-software has a tendency to lock people into not wandering too far from what they used before.
Yes, in business school we called that "switching costs".

I had a Nexus One for a year and a half and had many nice Android apps that I paid for. I suppose the purchase record is still at Google somewhere - if I go back, they'll probably reappear on my new phone.

It seems that iOS still has better games, however...
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Old Sep 23, 2012 | 9:36 am
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Not to mention the music from iTunes which won't work anywhere else. I think I only bought 2 albums from iTunes, the rest I bought as MP3 from somewhere and "added to library"
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