WN Asks Pax to Stop Recording BWI Ejection
Oct 2, 2017, 9:04 am
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You need emotional support to leave your house? Stay home.
You need your trained Neapolitan Mastiff to alert you (sometimes forcefully) when you're about to have a seizure? Tell the airline when you buy the ticket. Reasonable accommodations need to be made ahead of time.
By the time the animal gets to the plane, there is little a flight attendant can do or legally ask.
"It's getting to be ridiculous," Delta flight attendant Jen Williams said. "A co-worker saw a ferret wearing a diaper that was supposedly an emotional support animal."
She's seen dogs get loose and use the aisle as a lavatory. A co-worker told Williams a so-called service dog once bit a passenger and medics had to meet the flight when it landed.
"A lady on a flight was allergic, so we moved her away, but she broke out in hives," Williams said. "A nurse on the flight gave her Benadryl that we wouldn't have had if she didn't happen to be on the plane."
"It's getting to be ridiculous," Delta flight attendant Jen Williams said. "A co-worker saw a ferret wearing a diaper that was supposedly an emotional support animal."
She's seen dogs get loose and use the aisle as a lavatory. A co-worker told Williams a so-called service dog once bit a passenger and medics had to meet the flight when it landed.
"A lady on a flight was allergic, so we moved her away, but she broke out in hives," Williams said. "A nurse on the flight gave her Benadryl that we wouldn't have had if she didn't happen to be on the plane."
Oct 2, 2017, 10:28 am
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Completely agree. What's the policy had the lady have the necessary certificate? Who gets offloaded? Rock papers scissors?
Oct 2, 2017, 10:29 am
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Oct 2, 2017, 12:00 pm
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Auvi-Q was recalled in 2015 over less than 30 reports of activation issues with zero deaths. Sanofi recalled it in full and reverted the rights back to the manufacturer, who then re-introduced it after making manufacturing changes.
EpiPen received a partial recall this year after Meridian (makes the drug for Pfizer) received hundreds of reports of administration issues, including cases in which patients died, and then performed inadequate investigation (knew that parts failed in cases where patients died but did not initiate a recall or compare to samples within the same lots to see if the defect had occurred in multiple devices, etc.)
EpiPen received a partial recall this year after Meridian (makes the drug for Pfizer) received hundreds of reports of administration issues, including cases in which patients died, and then performed inadequate investigation (knew that parts failed in cases where patients died but did not initiate a recall or compare to samples within the same lots to see if the defect had occurred in multiple devices, etc.)
Oct 2, 2017, 12:35 pm
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You need emotional support to leave your house? Stay home.
You need your trained Neapolitan Mastiff to alert you (sometimes forcefully) when you're about to have a seizure? Tell the airline when you buy the ticket. Reasonable accommodations need to be made ahead of time.
You need your trained Neapolitan Mastiff to alert you (sometimes forcefully) when you're about to have a seizure? Tell the airline when you buy the ticket. Reasonable accommodations need to be made ahead of time.
Oct 2, 2017, 1:01 pm
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I noticed a new large sign outside our local Costco warning that no animals, other than bonafide service animals, were allowed inside.
This is a hopeful sign.
This is a hopeful sign.
Oct 2, 2017, 2:33 pm
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Yeah, it was. Inklings and hairs on the back of your neck don't count. The lady could have no allergies and some dog owner may have flashed her a middle salute. The storyline remains incomplete.
Had she produced paperwork, WN would have off-loaded the dogs? Fat chance.
Federal guidelines say nada about advance notice to an airline. Most insist on it to make sure contingencies are covered. SWA does not.
Had she produced paperwork, WN would have off-loaded the dogs? Fat chance.
Federal guidelines say nada about advance notice to an airline. Most insist on it to make sure contingencies are covered. SWA does not.
Oct 2, 2017, 7:13 pm
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Oct 2, 2017, 7:15 pm
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Colorado recently passed a law making it a crime to pass an ESA off as a "service dog" for the purpose of entering a public facility that bars animals (except service animals). ^
Oct 3, 2017, 6:48 am
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That's a hopeful sign! :-)
Oct 3, 2017, 9:33 am
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I'm obviously way late to this party but I'm pretty much at the point where we should ban animals, except legitimate service animals, from the airlines.
I realize this is easier said than done - for one, it entails establishing a national accreditation for service animals and the schools that train them - but the whole "ESA" nonsense has really got to stop.
The types of pets found in passenger cabins can be transported in the cargo hold. During months when it's too hot to put an animal in the cargo hold, then our society may just have to do deal with the fact that we can't bring our pets with us when we travel on commercial airline flights.
I realize this is easier said than done - for one, it entails establishing a national accreditation for service animals and the schools that train them - but the whole "ESA" nonsense has really got to stop.
The types of pets found in passenger cabins can be transported in the cargo hold. During months when it's too hot to put an animal in the cargo hold, then our society may just have to do deal with the fact that we can't bring our pets with us when we travel on commercial airline flights.
Oct 3, 2017, 12:30 pm
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I'm obviously way late to this party but I'm pretty much at the point where we should ban animals, except legitimate service animals, from the airlines.
I realize this is easier said than done - for one, it entails establishing a national accreditation for service animals and the schools that train them - but the whole "ESA" nonsense has really got to stop.
The types of pets found in passenger cabins can be transported in the cargo hold. During months when it's too hot to put an animal in the cargo hold, then our society may just have to do deal with the fact that we can't bring our pets with us when we travel on commercial airline flights.
I realize this is easier said than done - for one, it entails establishing a national accreditation for service animals and the schools that train them - but the whole "ESA" nonsense has really got to stop.
The types of pets found in passenger cabins can be transported in the cargo hold. During months when it's too hot to put an animal in the cargo hold, then our society may just have to do deal with the fact that we can't bring our pets with us when we travel on commercial airline flights.
Oct 3, 2017, 3:58 pm
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Oct 3, 2017, 9:37 pm
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Exactly. The police should not be called in to enforce what was essentially a corporate policy. Calling in the police is starting to seem more and more like simply a lazy way to solve a sticky problem: “Not my problem. Call the cops.”
The call for cellphones away was very much an effort to cover up.
Airlines. If you call in the police to enforce your corporate policy and somebody is dragged off, expect it to be taped. Expect it to go viral. Expect bad press. If you don’t want this, don’t call in the police and it won’t be taped. Enforce your own policies in a manner similar to what is described above—don’t expect the police to do it and for the taxpayers to pay for it.
The call for cellphones away was very much an effort to cover up.
Airlines. If you call in the police to enforce your corporate policy and somebody is dragged off, expect it to be taped. Expect it to go viral. Expect bad press. If you don’t want this, don’t call in the police and it won’t be taped. Enforce your own policies in a manner similar to what is described above—don’t expect the police to do it and for the taxpayers to pay for it.