Norwegian Air stability through summer?
Jun 8, 2019, 8:42 pm
#286
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Does anyone have any insight on Norwegian's Oakland routes? I was looking at OAK-BCN a few weeks ago and I could have sworn winter flights were available, but it doesn't appear that Norwegian is listing any flights from Oakland to any destination beginning November (the only Bay Area winter route available is SFO-GTW). I thought maybe the winter schedule wasn't released yet, but I checked LAX and FLL as a sample and they have winter flights listed for a handful of their cities.
Jun 9, 2019, 1:27 am
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Does anyone have any insight on Norwegian's Oakland routes? I was looking at OAK-BCN a few weeks ago and I could have sworn winter flights were available, but it doesn't appear that Norwegian is listing any flights from Oakland to any destination beginning November (the only Bay Area winter route available is SFO-GTW). I thought maybe the winter schedule wasn't released yet, but I checked LAX and FLL as a sample and they have winter flights listed for a handful of their cities.
Jun 9, 2019, 11:13 am
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Sorry about that! I'm still a newbie 
As to the previous post, yes, Norwegian moved OAK-LGW to SFO-LGW at the end of March this year, I guess as an attempt to get more competitive for business travelers out of San Francisco. That's their most frequent route, and given that it's available through the winter, I guess it's popular. As for Oakland, I know Norwegian's flown at a reduced amount of days to destinations during past winters, so it seems odd that the entire calendar just drops off right after October. I used the Destination page calendar view to check:
https://www.norwegian.com/us/destinations/SanFranciscoOakland-Alldestinations?SplitDatesInto=3&UseDates=True&D_D ay=01&D_Month=201909&D_Day_End=30&D_Month_End=2019 11&CurrencyCode=USD&IncludeTransit=False
You can see November is blank for all six destinations.
As to the previous post, yes, Norwegian moved OAK-LGW to SFO-LGW at the end of March this year, I guess as an attempt to get more competitive for business travelers out of San Francisco. That's their most frequent route, and given that it's available through the winter, I guess it's popular. As for Oakland, I know Norwegian's flown at a reduced amount of days to destinations during past winters, so it seems odd that the entire calendar just drops off right after October. I used the Destination page calendar view to check:https://www.norwegian.com/us/destinations/SanFranciscoOakland-Alldestinations?SplitDatesInto=3&UseDates=True&D_D ay=01&D_Month=201909&D_Day_End=30&D_Month_End=2019 11&CurrencyCode=USD&IncludeTransit=False
You can see November is blank for all six destinations.
Last edited by tgc225; Jun 9, 2019 at 12:43 pm
Jul 9, 2019, 9:10 pm
#289
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Looks like these articles answer my questions:
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...l-14077892.php
https://ftnnews.com/aviation/37377-n...-san-francisco
Barcelona and Paris are moving to SFO for the winter schedule, and the remaining Oakland flights are changing to summer seasonal flights to return at some point next year.
https://www.sfgate.com/travel/articl...l-14077892.php
https://ftnnews.com/aviation/37377-n...-san-francisco
Barcelona and Paris are moving to SFO for the winter schedule, and the remaining Oakland flights are changing to summer seasonal flights to return at some point next year.
Jul 11, 2019, 4:23 pm
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Norwegian’s founder and (now former) CEO has been pushed out of his job by the board of directors of the company, and he wasn’t even given a chance to stay on in his role as CEO for even 24 more hours.
Jul 12, 2019, 7:53 am
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The “step down” and “retirement” language are efforts at face-saving statements and spin, for a person whose termination in his role as CEO was made basically effective immediately on the day of the board decision — instead of with even a “stay on for X more days” and/or “stay on until a permanent replacement is found” type situation that is typical when the departure is voluntary and under the unilaterally-desired terms of the departing.
Many a founder-come-substantial -shareholder of a relatively sizeable company considers the founders company to be almost like a child with whom they won’t voluntarily and completely separate away from until the child and/or others push the parent away to let them go on their own way.
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Jul 14, 2019, 8:07 pm
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I can’t foresee Fredriksen backing NAS with a lot more money than he already has used, so I expect NAS long-haul routes in particular are going to be taking a much more brutal reduction ahead (and sooner) than was alreadyplanned to be on the chopping block.
Jul 18, 2019, 12:48 am
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A planned retirement with no advance notice and made effective immediately, and done with no permanent successor named? That’s not usually how age-based retirements go in this area.
The “step down” and “retirement” language are efforts at face-saving statements and spin, for a person whose termination in his role as CEO was made basically effective immediately on the day of the board decision — instead of with even a “stay on for X more days” and/or “stay on until a permanent replacement is found” type situation that is typical when the departure is voluntary and under the unilaterally-desired terms of the departing.
Many a founder-come-substantial -shareholder of a relatively sizeable company considers the founders company to be almost like a child with whom they won’t voluntarily and completely separate away from until the child and/or others push the parent away to let them go on their own way.
Jul 18, 2019, 3:26 am
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Kjos has been quoted multiple times in the last 6 months as a minimum in various articles stating that he was going to retire this summer. It was a surprise to no one paying attention. And if you knew anything about Kjos, you'd know that he had total control of the board. Kjos and Kise have been the largest shareholders for a very, very long time.
Knowing of pending defeat isn’t the same thing as knowing the date of defeat in advance.
Jul 18, 2019, 10:22 am
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Jul 18, 2019, 1:15 pm
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That's funny stuff there. Kjos has and continues to control the board. Fredriksen is just dumb money; he's not able to dictate any terms.
Jul 18, 2019, 1:29 pm
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