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Chronological Summary of Changes to the Oneworld Explorer Rule Sheet

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2023-Oct-05 Changes to the Premium Economy surcharge table
2023-May-01 Rule 4(e) change, regarding second visit to Asia
2022-Aug-31 Comair removed from the list of BA affiliated Airlines
2022-Apr-21 S7 removed from the list of airlines
2021-Jul-01 Minor change
2021-Apr-01 AS joins the alliance
2020-May-01 LATAM (LA & JJ) leaves the alliance
2020-Apr-01 Royal Air Maroc (AT) joins the alliance
2019-Mar-15 Minor change
2019-Feb-11 Rule 4(j) Wording, in part, changed from:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
To:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked in conjunction with a QF operated and marketed online connection or stopover flight at LAX
Rule 15 Following paragraph removed
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate.
Other, minor, changes
2019-Jan-08 Minor change (to the list of AA-affiliated airlines)

2018-Jun-06 Rule 16 - VOLUNTARY CHANGES / REROUTING / PENALTIES
Highlighted words removed
16(a)2d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated.
2018-Mar-05 Rule 4(j) Words added:
QF operated services within USA (eg LAX-JFK vv) not permitted unless booked as a through flight segment between Australia & USA (eg SYD-JFK vv)
2017-Oct-30 Rule 5 Reservations and Ticketing: changed wording
From:
Reservations for the first overwater flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.
To:
Reservations for the first international flight and all preceding flights must be made prior to departure.

Air berlin removed (it has ceased operating)
2017-Sep-05 No change (see the linked post)

2017-Aug-01 Rule 4(e) Major change regarding second visits to certain continents
Old Version:

New Version:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except as follows:
Two permitted in North America.
Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East.
Two permitted in Europe/Middle East.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa. AA Premium Economy booking classes added
2017-Feb-01 Rule 4(f) has the following words added:
No more than 4 international transfers from the one country permitted
2016-Dec-01 Rule 0 Removal of these words
3 Continent Fare is only offered for travel originating in Asia, Europe/Middle East and North America
(because southern hemisphere 3- continent itineraries became possible when JJ commenced its GRU-JNB service)
Rule 4(g) addition of these words:
The first crossing between TC areas must be flown, not surfaced
Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*not more than 2 of which may be between the UK and ALBANIA, ALGERIA, BULGARIA, CROATIA, CYPRUS, GREECE, MIDDLE EAST, MOROCCO, ROMANIA, RUSSIA west of the Urals, TUNISIA, TURKEY, UKRAINE.
2016-Aug-04 Rule 4(h) Removal of these words:
*segments between Europe and Middle East are not permitted if travel includes Africa and the itinerary utilises the backtracking provisions in Para 4(e) 3.1.3.or 3.2.3.
(So no more complicated rules regarding second visits to Europe/Middle East)
2016-Apr-22 Rule 4(e) Major change to the 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East rule
New wording is:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/membe...iddle-east.png Rule 8Stopovers.
Removal of the highlighted words:
2. Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.
Rule 15 Sales Restrictions
Removal of the highlighted words:
When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe
.

2016-Apr-01 Minor change to booking classes

2015-Dec-01 Minor change to list of affiliate airlines and to the cancellation fee

2015-Nov-01 US Airways removed from list of airlines (its merger with AA was complete)

2015-Sep-01Rule 4(k) ATL added to list of east coast cities
Rule 26 Change to group booking codes
2015-Jun-01 Rule 4(k) TPA added to list of east coast cities

2015-Feb-01 Minor change to the list of affiliated carriers
Rule 16 Voluntary Changes
Removal of “Date/Time/Carrier” changes. Phrase now used is “changes to ticketed points”
2014-Nov-01 Rule 4(j) change to the list of affiliated airlines

2014-Oct-01 Rule 5 Highlighted words added
NOTE: For flights where First or Business Class is not offered or available, passengers may travel in a lower Class, in the applicable booking code for that lower Class.
Where the applicable booking class for the lower class is not available,
Passengers travelling on First Class Fares may book Y class
Passengers travelling on DONE* Business Class Fares may book B class

2014-Aug-01 Minor changes only

2014-Jul-01 IONE3 fares added
Other minor changes
2014-May-01 UL joins Oneworld

2014-Apr-01 JJ and US join Oneworld

2013-Dec-01 Allows DONEn travellers to fly in first class on QR’s Middle East flights

2013-Oct-30 QR joins Oneworld
Complicated new rule for 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East in conjunction with travel to/from/via Africa
2013-Oct-01 LAN Colombia joins Oneworld

2013-Jul-01 Minor changes
Removed the ability to purchase extra intra-continent flight segments
2013-Mar-01 Changes subsequently discovered
Continents transited to be counted
Rule 8. The highlighted words dropped
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin.

2013-Jan-31 MH joins Oneworld

2012-Nov Rule 0 The highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SOUTH WEST PACIFIC AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE/ MIDDLE EAST THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS
2011-May-02 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed

2011-Apr-01 Rule 4(e)(3) Tanzania removed from the list of African countries where 2nd visit to Europe/Middle East allowed

2011-Feb-02 QF codeshare flight on JQ allowed
Albania and Turkey added to the list of countries to/from which only two flights allowed from/to UK
2010-Nov-01 Highlighted words added
TRAVEL BETWEEN SWP AND EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST ON A SINGLE FLIGHT NUMBER/ OR BY SURFACE IS CONSIDERED TRAVELLING SWP-ASIA-EUROPE THROUGH THREE CONTINENTS.
Premium Economy supplements increased
2009-Nov-30 Rule 4(l) Change to the list of Australian trans-continental flights allowed

2009-Aug-04 Rule 4(c) Origin-Destination surface segment allowed between Maldives and Sri Lanka/India
Rule 8. Highlighted words added
Maximum two stopovers permitted in the continent of origin of which a maximum of one stopover is permitted in each direction in the country of origin









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Old Aug 14, 2014, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by Viajero Millero
I understand base fares have remained rather unchanged over the years? With some regions providing a better value than others?

Working on a post and wondering if anybody remember specific increases in their go-to XONEX?
Last year ex-South Africa went up about $1k. Year or so before that, ex-Israel/Egypt went up $2k or so if I recall correctly. About 8 or so years ago, ex-North America started going up every year until it had pretty much doubled.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 8:19 am
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What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by headinclouds
What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.
Thy're there now, nothing worth commenting on - CMB is cheaper by a couple percent, for example.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 4:21 pm
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Originally Posted by headinclouds
What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.
CX has published some:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Information Search:

Departing MLE on 15/10/14 for MLE, Flying CX, Purchasing at MLE, Viewing in currency USD, Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
LGLOB26     CX       L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE3       CX       L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONEWC3     CX       L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB29     CX       L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE4       CX       L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONEWC4     CX       L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB34     CX       L        Round-Trip  4640.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE5       CX       L        Round-Trip  4640.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LGLOB39     CX       L        Round-Trip  5468.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
LONE6       CX       L        Round-Trip  5468.00 (USD)  E                             -- / 12M 
IGLOB26     CX       I        Round-Trip  7750.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
IONE3       CX       I        Round-Trip  7750.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE3       CX       D        Round-Trip  7908.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONEWC3     CX       D        Round-Trip  7908.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DGLOB34     CX       D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE4       CX       D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONEWC4     CX       D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                             -- / 12M 
DONE5       CX       D        Round-Trip  10267.00 (USD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONE6       CX       D        Round-Trip  11347.00 (USD) B                             -- / 12M 
AONE3       CX       A        Round-Trip  13923.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONEWC3     CX       A        Round-Trip  13923.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AGLOB34     CX       A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE4       CX       A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONEWC4     CX       A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE5       CX       A        Round-Trip  17198.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M 
AONE6       CX       A        Round-Trip  19914.00 (USD) F                             -- / 12M
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 5:52 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
KRT. KTM is Kathmandu, Nepal.
Yes, my mistake - KTM was in my mind as I've been recently looking at MH flights there. My apologies.
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by pandaperth
Current base fares from Sth Korea are unchanged from the fare list I have dated March-2012
This was going back a longer time. Check this: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...n-pricing.html
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Old Aug 15, 2014, 11:20 pm
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Originally Posted by beardoc
South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards.
Originally Posted by Himeno
When did that happen? South Korea was similar to Japan prices last time I looked.
IIRC, I got an AONE3 ex-ICN for around USD $5.3K during the OneWorld 10 Year Anniversary 10% Off Sale.
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Old Aug 17, 2014, 8:29 am
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Originally Posted by anabolism
Last year ex-South Africa went up about $1k. Year or so before that, ex-Israel/Egypt went up $2k or so if I recall correctly. About 8 or so years ago, ex-North America started going up every year until it had pretty much doubled.
And don't forget that RTW base fares are understated by US$1k or so because on many segments you will enjoy paying the airline its "hope-the-pax-call-it-taxes" hidden fare component, YQ/YR.
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Old Aug 19, 2014, 7:33 am
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On those airline surcharges which are erroneously called taxes, wouldn't their designation as taxes mean that you can deduct them on your Federal tax return if you itemize?
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 6:10 am
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I'm thinking of doing this DONE5 route:

Cairo (BA)
London (QF)
Sydney (QF or JAL)
Tokyo (Sri Lankan)
Colombo (Malaysian)
Kuala Lumpur (Cathay)
Hong Kong (Cathay)
New York (AA)
Cancun (AA)
Miami (AA)
Los Angeles (Lan)
Santiago (Lan)
Easter Island (Lan)
Rio de Janeiro (via Santiago = 2 segments)
London (BA)
Cairo

The fare rules say I don't have to terminate in Cairo, I can terminate in another Middle East location. For me, Amman would be preferable. However if I substitute Amman for Cairo at the end of the trip, the price goes up significantly.

Am I missing something? Is it pricing the whole trip with the AMM price rather than the CAI price due to finishing in Amman?

General comments on my itinerary also welcome as are the logistics of actually paying US$24,000-odd for 2 adult+child+infant tickets in Cairo when I live in London.

I think I have it pretty efficient. Every flight except Easter Island -> Rio is a single sector and I actually do want to go to all those destinations. Only thinks I'm thinking of now are deleting something like Miami and adding either Cairns or Vancouver.

Last edited by creampuff; Aug 26, 2014 at 6:17 am
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 6:14 am
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Oh another one. Of all the OW airlines, Malaysian is the most likely to cut routes.

If MH stops flying Colombo-KL after I've bought the ticket, what happens?
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 7:19 am
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I believe there is a bug in the tool that it doesn't price up tickets correctly when you end at a different city than you start at.

The only way around this I can think of is to purchase through another method (CAI based agent) or ticket as ending in Cairo and pay the 125 USD change fee per ticket to change after you have it ticketed.

You wouldn't be able to take JL to SYD as it would add one too many sectors (assuming I am counting correctly). The QF flights count as one sector even though there is a stop over in DXB as it is the same flight number all the way. Using JL would use two sectors. You could do BA to SYD on the one flight number as an alternative to QF if you wished.

If MH pull the flight you still have a direct flight on UL that you could take to KL.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by Moomba

You wouldn't be able to take JL to SYD as it would add one too many sectors (assuming I am counting correctly). The QF flights count as one sector even though there is a stop over in DXB as it is the same flight number all the way. Using JL would use two sectors. You could do BA to SYD on the one flight number as an alternative to QF if you wished.
Oh yes, to clarify that is what I plan. LHR->SYD on QF with a single flight number which the OW-RTW booking tool is showing as one segment. Quite a distance for one segment!

It is the segment from SYD-Tokyo where I am considering taking either QF or JAL.

According to the booking tool, the itinerary above is 16 sectors.

Thanks for the info about the bug. I may just end the trip in CAI then as a US$125 change fee x several tickets adds up.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by creampuff
Oh yes, to clarify that is what I plan. LHR->SYD on QF with a single flight number which the OW-RTW booking tool is showing as one segment. Quite a distance for one segment!

It is the segment from SYD-Tokyo where I am considering taking either QF or JAL.

According to the booking tool, the itinerary above is 16 sectors.

Thanks for the info about the bug. I may just end the trip in CAI then as a US$125 change fee x several tickets adds up.
Ah yes I see now. Sorry I misunderstood your original post re the JL flights.

Good luck with getting the tool to ticket. The way it has been behaving lately it seems you are lucky if you can get it to do anything other than throw an error on the very last page. Having said that as your first sector is BA that seems to one of the more stable ticketing options on the tool.
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Old Aug 26, 2014, 8:21 am
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Another thing is I've put a stopover in London between CAI and SYD at the start of the trip.

I've also put a stopover in London before CAI at the end of the trip.

Both stopovers over 24 hours. Booking tool has not complained about it. I thought 2 x stops (not transits) in the one city was not allowed but it seems I'm being allowed to do it.
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