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anabolism Aug 14, 2014 8:58 pm


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 23362143)
I understand base fares have remained rather unchanged over the years? With some regions providing a better value than others?

Working on a post and wondering if anybody remember specific increases in their go-to XONEX?

Last year ex-South Africa went up about $1k. Year or so before that, ex-Israel/Egypt went up $2k or so if I recall correctly. About 8 or so years ago, ex-North America started going up every year until it had pretty much doubled.

headinclouds Aug 15, 2014 8:19 am

What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.

Gardyloo Aug 15, 2014 4:07 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 23368452)
What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.

Thy're there now, nothing worth commenting on - CMB is cheaper by a couple percent, for example.

serfty Aug 15, 2014 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 23368452)
What about ex-MLE, now that UL and CX have flights to the Maldives? I don't recall any published fares on Expert Flyer.

CX has published some:
Results from ExpertFlyer.com
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Fare Information Search:

Departing MLE on 15/10/14 for MLE, Flying CX, Purchasing at MLE, Viewing in currency USD, Validated Results

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type  Fare          Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                    Class                                      Date      Date        Stay    Purchase Req
LGLOB26    CX      L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE3      CX      L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC3    CX      L        Round-Trip  3458.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB29    CX      L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE4      CX      L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONEWC4    CX      L        Round-Trip  4044.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB34    CX      L        Round-Trip  4640.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE5      CX      L        Round-Trip  4640.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LGLOB39    CX      L        Round-Trip  5468.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
LONE6      CX      L        Round-Trip  5468.00 (USD)  E                            -- / 12M
IGLOB26    CX      I        Round-Trip  7750.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
IONE3      CX      I        Round-Trip  7750.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE3      CX      D        Round-Trip  7908.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC3    CX      D        Round-Trip  7908.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DGLOB34    CX      D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE4      CX      D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONEWC4    CX      D        Round-Trip  9047.00 (USD)  B                            -- / 12M
DONE5      CX      D        Round-Trip  10267.00 (USD) B                            -- / 12M
DONE6      CX      D        Round-Trip  11347.00 (USD) B                            -- / 12M
AONE3      CX      A        Round-Trip  13923.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC3    CX      A        Round-Trip  13923.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AGLOB34    CX      A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE4      CX      A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONEWC4    CX      A        Round-Trip  15851.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE5      CX      A        Round-Trip  17198.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M
AONE6      CX      A        Round-Trip  19914.00 (USD) F                            -- / 12M


beardoc Aug 15, 2014 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 23362950)
KRT. KTM is Kathmandu, Nepal. ;)

Yes, my mistake - KTM was in my mind as I've been recently looking at MH flights there. My apologies.

beardoc Aug 15, 2014 5:55 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23366447)
Current base fares from Sth Korea are unchanged from the fare list I have dated March-2012

This was going back a longer time. Check this: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onewo...n-pricing.html

Dr. HFH Aug 15, 2014 11:20 pm


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 23362461)
South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards.


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 23366183)
When did that happen? South Korea was similar to Japan prices last time I looked.

IIRC, I got an AONE3 ex-ICN for around USD $5.3K during the OneWorld 10 Year Anniversary 10% Off Sale.

JohnAx Aug 17, 2014 8:29 am


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 23366499)
Last year ex-South Africa went up about $1k. Year or so before that, ex-Israel/Egypt went up $2k or so if I recall correctly. About 8 or so years ago, ex-North America started going up every year until it had pretty much doubled.

And don't forget that RTW base fares are understated by US$1k or so because on many segments you will enjoy paying the airline its "hope-the-pax-call-it-taxes" hidden fare component, YQ/YR.

Dr. HFH Aug 19, 2014 7:33 am

On those airline surcharges which are erroneously called taxes, wouldn't their designation as taxes mean that you can deduct them on your Federal tax return if you itemize?

creampuff Aug 26, 2014 6:10 am

I'm thinking of doing this DONE5 route:

Cairo (BA)
London (QF)
Sydney (QF or JAL)
Tokyo (Sri Lankan)
Colombo (Malaysian)
Kuala Lumpur (Cathay)
Hong Kong (Cathay)
New York (AA)
Cancun (AA)
Miami (AA)
Los Angeles (Lan)
Santiago (Lan)
Easter Island (Lan)
Rio de Janeiro (via Santiago = 2 segments)
London (BA)
Cairo

The fare rules say I don't have to terminate in Cairo, I can terminate in another Middle East location. For me, Amman would be preferable. However if I substitute Amman for Cairo at the end of the trip, the price goes up significantly.

Am I missing something? Is it pricing the whole trip with the AMM price rather than the CAI price due to finishing in Amman?

General comments on my itinerary also welcome as are the logistics of actually paying US$24,000-odd for 2 adult+child+infant tickets in Cairo when I live in London.

I think I have it pretty efficient. Every flight except Easter Island -> Rio is a single sector and I actually do want to go to all those destinations. Only thinks I'm thinking of now are deleting something like Miami and adding either Cairns or Vancouver.

creampuff Aug 26, 2014 6:14 am

Oh another one. Of all the OW airlines, Malaysian is the most likely to cut routes.

If MH stops flying Colombo-KL after I've bought the ticket, what happens?

Moomba Aug 26, 2014 7:19 am

I believe there is a bug in the tool that it doesn't price up tickets correctly when you end at a different city than you start at.

The only way around this I can think of is to purchase through another method (CAI based agent) or ticket as ending in Cairo and pay the 125 USD change fee per ticket to change after you have it ticketed.

You wouldn't be able to take JL to SYD as it would add one too many sectors (assuming I am counting correctly). The QF flights count as one sector even though there is a stop over in DXB as it is the same flight number all the way. Using JL would use two sectors. You could do BA to SYD on the one flight number as an alternative to QF if you wished.

If MH pull the flight you still have a direct flight on UL that you could take to KL.

creampuff Aug 26, 2014 7:34 am


Originally Posted by Moomba (Post 23425691)

You wouldn't be able to take JL to SYD as it would add one too many sectors (assuming I am counting correctly). The QF flights count as one sector even though there is a stop over in DXB as it is the same flight number all the way. Using JL would use two sectors. You could do BA to SYD on the one flight number as an alternative to QF if you wished.

Oh yes, to clarify that is what I plan. LHR->SYD on QF with a single flight number which the OW-RTW booking tool is showing as one segment. Quite a distance for one segment!

It is the segment from SYD-Tokyo where I am considering taking either QF or JAL.

According to the booking tool, the itinerary above is 16 sectors.

Thanks for the info about the bug. I may just end the trip in CAI then as a US$125 change fee x several tickets adds up.

Moomba Aug 26, 2014 8:14 am


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23425779)
Oh yes, to clarify that is what I plan. LHR->SYD on QF with a single flight number which the OW-RTW booking tool is showing as one segment. Quite a distance for one segment!

It is the segment from SYD-Tokyo where I am considering taking either QF or JAL.

According to the booking tool, the itinerary above is 16 sectors.

Thanks for the info about the bug. I may just end the trip in CAI then as a US$125 change fee x several tickets adds up.

Ah yes I see now. Sorry I misunderstood your original post re the JL flights.

Good luck with getting the tool to ticket. The way it has been behaving lately it seems you are lucky if you can get it to do anything other than throw an error on the very last page. :eek: Having said that as your first sector is BA that seems to one of the more stable ticketing options on the tool.

creampuff Aug 26, 2014 8:21 am

Another thing is I've put a stopover in London between CAI and SYD at the start of the trip.

I've also put a stopover in London before CAI at the end of the trip.

Both stopovers over 24 hours. Booking tool has not complained about it. I thought 2 x stops (not transits) in the one city was not allowed but it seems I'm being allowed to do it.


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