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Himeno Jul 14, 2014 3:12 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 23191673)
Is that your ticket? Recent? I don't see an issue date (year). Is it still possible to get paper tickets?? I've always preferred them; find them much easier to use.

No. Just an image I found online.


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 23191895)
Now I wonder - just what did Himeno get up to when had his mid-winter break from Novosibirsk in Bangkok back in '06?

her. :(

The last paper ticket I had was in 2008 when I'd booked a 16 sector LONE4 prior to QF canning NRT-MEL. I was rerouted via SYD creating a 17 sector trip and the e-ticket was reissued on paper. (of course that was later again reissued as a e-ticket midway through the trip due to the issues in BKK and being rerouted around it and the travel agent had said to keep the remaining paper coupons to return at the end. Of course, try explain that to BA at FCO and LHR...)

The only other paper ticket I've had since I started traveling on my own was a Oneworld Global Explorer ticket in 2006. I used JL for KIX-LHR when JL was on the xGLOBnn but before they joined oneworld and the xONEx. As JL had not completed ticketing links with all the carriers I was using, it was issued on paper.

Dr. HFH Jul 14, 2014 8:00 am

I preferred paper tix, particularly on xONEx tix because it made changing carriers easier. You didn't have to go back to the issuing carrier to have anything "sent" electronically to the new carrier if you changed flights on the go, as you might (and I did from time to time) if the original carrier suffered an equipment delay or similar.

serfty Jul 15, 2014 8:32 pm

I booked a 20 segment DONE4 ex CMB with in 2005 and received 5 coupon books filled out by hand and stapled together.

When I made some date changes in 2006 I had to mail the remain coupons books back - in return I received a stapled wad on computer printed ATB2 stock for the remaining flights.

Himeno Jul 17, 2014 5:33 am

I'm currently planning a DONE3 (ex-TYO). It would have been planned months ago, but the changes QF has been making (QF9/10 retiming, program adjustments, etc...) has caused some delays.

Last night, I was trying to change a date for the LHR-DXB-LHR part only to find that QF9/10 wasn't operating that day (which made a slight problem with having a QF10>QF1 connection ;))
Today, the oneworld downloaded timetable updated and I went back to the RTW planner.
It's now showing QF coded EK flights. (eg, QF8002)
Haven't checked if it's on more then the LHR-DXB flights.

bug, or upcoming rule change to allow QF coded EK like QF coded JQ?

creampuff Jul 30, 2014 2:36 pm


Originally Posted by serfty (Post 23202766)
I booked a 20 segment DONE4 ex CMB with in 2005 and received 5 coupon books filled out by hand and stapled together.

When I made some date changes in 2006 I had to mail the remain coupons books back - in return I received a stapled wad on computer printed ATB2 stock for the remaining flights.

What happens now if you have a 16-segment RTW and one of the airlines stops flying one of the segments and you need 2 (or more) flights where it was previously 1?

Does someone give you a separate e-ticket? Do you get a paper ticket with 17 or 18 segments?

skunker Jul 30, 2014 3:01 pm


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23283531)
What happens now if you have a 16-segment RTW and one of the airlines stops flying one of the segments and you need 2 (or more) flights where it was previously 1?

Does someone give you a separate e-ticket? Do you get a paper ticket with 17 or 18 segments?

They will replace the segment with what is needed. For example I had SAN-JFK-BGI-JFK-HKG ticketed for travel this year but AA cancelled the JFK-BGI direct flights and automatically rebooked me to SAN-MIA-BGI-MIA-JFK-HKG. My 16 segment ticket became 17 segments. The problem is I didn't want those flights, but they couldn't change it since it was 17 segments. I needed to fly at least one segment to get it back to 16 before they could change it.

danger Jul 30, 2014 5:05 pm


Originally Posted by creampuff (Post 23283531)
What happens now if you have a 16-segment RTW and one of the airlines stops flying one of the segments and you need 2 (or more) flights where it was previously 1?

Does someone give you a separate e-ticket? Do you get a paper ticket with 17 or 18 segments?

I'm on a DONE3 at the moment that was impacted by the withdrawal of a service. My booking was split into two separate itineraries with two separate ticket numbers.

beardoc Aug 1, 2014 6:56 am


Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu (Post 23172883)
In good old days, there was ONE big difference.
XONEWCn didn't have the upper limit of the number of segments.
So, I planned 30+ segments DONEWC3 ex-Japan.

Wow - that's incredible - I can't stop thinking of all the possibilities had I known about this!

beardoc Aug 1, 2014 7:04 am


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 23136370)
I have noticed that all the cities that are being added to the 1 transcon list within the USA are always more than 2000 miles. BA conspiracy? It does seem a bit silly, since one can only fly 1 round trip between city pairs. I could understand AA limiting travel on its 3-class service to 1.

I can understand why they did this - I had a DONE5 that succeeded in making 5 of the 6 intercontinental USA flights into flights > 2000 miles by pivoting around PHX and CLT. Unfortunately won't be able to book that again.

pandaperth Aug 3, 2014 11:12 pm

New Version 1-Aug-2014
 
Nothing significant that I can spot.

The changes I have spotted are:
  • Under the heading "FARES" it now states "Refer GDS"; it used to state "Refer end of sheet" (and it had been some years since the fares were listed at the end of the sheet)
  • Some changes in Section 5 to the ticketing deadlines
  • Also in Section 5 a new sentence "OSI YY OW RTW to be inserted into PNR to avoid reservation cancellation." (anyone understand this?)
  • In 16(b)(1) there's now a 1000RUB cancellation fee on sales in Russia

Viajero Millero Aug 14, 2014 6:26 am

I understand base fares have remained rather unchanged over the years? With some regions providing a better value than others?

Working on a post and wondering if anybody remember specific increases in their go-to XONEX?

beardoc Aug 14, 2014 7:46 am


Originally Posted by Viajero Millero (Post 23362143)
I understand base fares have remained rather unchanged over the years? With some regions providing a better value than others?

Working on a post and wondering if anybody remember specific increases in their go-to XONEX?

South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards. As did Sudan (KTM).

skunker Aug 14, 2014 9:11 am


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 23362461)
South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards. As did Sudan (KTM).

KRT. KTM is Kathmandu, Nepal. ;)

Himeno Aug 14, 2014 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 23362461)
South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards.

When did that happen? South Korea was similar to Japan prices last time I looked.

pandaperth Aug 14, 2014 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by beardoc (Post 23362461)
South Korea (ICN) used to be really cheap, but got rerated upwards. As did Sudan (KTM).


Originally Posted by Himeno (Post 23366183)
When did that happen? South Korea was similar to Japan prices last time I looked.

Current base fares from Sth Korea are unchanged from the fare list I have dated March-2012

Sudan, sadly, is a different matter. For example the DONE4 used to be SDG14700 (approx USD3300 at the then exchange rate) and now it is published in USD and is much, much higher


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