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Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 22340169)
Have included South East Asia as defined in xASnn rules as it is referenced in the xONEx rules.
BTW these surcharges are unchanged from the 30-Oct-2013 version of the rules - none of us noticed that SE Asia was there! |
The Global Explorer rule sheet has also changed
Russia East of the Urals and the stand have been moved into Asia |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 22340169)
Each Zone and continent according to current rules
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...psb1bf10ff.gif One error: Turkey is not part of the Middle East, at least as far as the xONEx rules are concerned
When I tried to test whether Iran was in the Middle East I got the error message: 252: This city is invalid for the oneworld Explorer itinerary. Remove this city from your itinerary. I thought there were no UN, or other, restrictions on individuals travelling to/from Iran:confused: |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 22340433)
Great map Himeno
One error: Turkey is not part of the Middle East, at least as far as the xONEx rules are concerned
I had been trying to just make up a map to show the Europe/Mideast zones, but I couldn't find a blank map showing the required area, so ended up just doing everything. When I tried to test whether Iran was in the Middle East I got the error message: Tried it with THR, SYS and MHD - the three cities in Iran that QR flies to (Tehran, Shiraz and Mashad) I thought there were no UN, or other, restrictions on individuals travelling to/from Iran:confused: I listed it as middle east since nothing in the rules mentions it isn't and it is traditionally part of the mideast. |
Grandfathering?
Do any of the changes include words like "applicable to tickets purchased after xx/xx/xx"?
I don't think I've ever taken advantage of grandfathering but was under the impression that the rules in effect the day the ticket was sold remain in effect until it is used, the exceptions being that carriers that leave OW can no longer be used (despite being named in the valid-on line) while new members also can not be used. |
Originally Posted by JohnAx
(Post 22342630)
Do any of the changes include words like "applicable to tickets purchased after xx/xx/xx"?
I don't think I've ever taken advantage of grandfathering but was under the impression that the rules in effect the day the ticket was sold remain in effect until it is used, the exceptions being that carriers that leave OW can no longer be used (despite being named in the valid-on line) while new members also can not be used. |
New Version - 1-April-2014 JJ and US joining
There is a new version of the rule sheet - because of JJ and US joining the alliance
No other changes that I can see. In rule 3: JJ's booking classes are A, J and H (instead of the usual A, D and L) Business Class passengers can travel in First on US flights in TC1 (compare to AA flights, where the exception is allowed only for services within the USA) |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 22627741)
Business Class passengers can travel in First on US flights in TC1
(compare to AA flights, where the exception is allowed only for services within the USA) |
New Version - 1-May-2014 - UL joining
There is a new version of the rule sheet dated 1-May-2014 - because of UL joining the alliance
The only other change that I can see is a minor change to the list of AA affiliate airlines in sub-clause 2(j) |
Given the changes QF has/is doing, I would have expected them to try to get QF coded/EK operated flights included (just as QF coded JQ flights are in many oneworld products).
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Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 22806191)
Given the changes QF has/is doing, I would have expected them to try to get QF coded/EK operated flights included (just as QF coded JQ flights are in many oneworld products).
especially given that Sydney International Airlines (aka Qantas international) will shortly no longer fly from Perth at all (except for twice weekly summer season PER-AKL flights) Though to be honest, if I was flying to the Middle East/Europe from Perth, I think I will fly QR - if only because it is Qantas that insists on SWP-Europe/Middle East being "via Asia", so why should I reward them. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 22806343)
Being Perth-based, that could be a really good addition
especially given that Sydney International Airlines (aka Qantas international) will shortly no longer fly from Perth at all (except for twice weekly summer season PER-AKL flights) Though to be honest, if I was flying to the Middle East/Europe from Perth, I think I will fly QR - if only because it is Qantas that insists on SWP-Europe/Middle East being "via Asia", so why should I reward them. BA still flies SWP-Europe/Middle East via Asia. If BA pulls out of Australia and they still have that "via Asia" rule, without QF restoring any Asia-EU flights, then... ;) |
Originally Posted by Himeno
(Post 22806501)
Is it QF insisting on that?
BA still flies SWP-Europe/Middle East via Asia. If BA pulls out of Australia and they still have that "via Asia" rule, without QF restoring any Asia-EU flights, then... ;) At the time I was querying why the on-line tool was charging for Asia even when I was trying to have a surface segment from SWP to Europe/Middle East. This was a few years before QF changed its flights to Europe to be via DXB. (the end result of my query was that the words "or by surface" got added to the rule:td::() To address your point - my understanding is that the rule has been "if you touch it you pay for it". So BA's Europe-SWP (i.e LHR-SYD) flights do touch Asia and so you pay for Asia. But QR's DOH-PER is non-stop (as are its DOH-MEL flight and QF's DXB-SYD/MEL flights). IMHO, there is no justification for being charged for Asia on those flights. |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 22806529)
A few years ago someone in oneworld told me it was at QF's insistence.
At the time I was querying why the on-line tool was charging for Asia even when I was trying to have a surface segment from SWP to Europe/Middle East. This was a few years before QF changed its flights to Europe to be via DXB. (the end result of my query was that the words "or by surface" got added to the rule:td::() |
Originally Posted by pandaperth
(Post 22806529)
To address your point - my understanding is that the rule has been "if you touch it you pay for it". So BA's Europe-SWP (i.e LHR-SYD) flights do touch Asia and so you pay for Asia. But QR's DOH-PER is non-stop (as are its DOH-MEL flight and QF's DXB-SYD/MEL flights). IMHO, there is no justification for being charged for Asia on those flights.
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