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moa999 Mar 6, 2013 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 20369546)

KVS still doesn't show the OWE fares - xONEx
but I guess that is fair enough, because QR is not yet in OW

Still, we should now be able to book Global Explorer fares that start from/include SEZ
And since SEZ is in Africa, an ex-SEZ ticket can end anywhere in Africa

Yes, but the Global Explorer fares are nothing special (having recently gone up a lot -- ie actually been issued afresh)... and given the Explorer fares are normally close to xONEx fares from other starting points I would expect something to change (and not for the better) when QR joins.
Thus SEZ in my mind is moot.

ernestnywang Mar 7, 2013 2:23 am


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 20374903)
I can't seem to get the SEZ fares to pop up? How did you do it?

the fares look really good!!!! It might still be bookable as the first sector maybe able to be a land segment? can't it be???

I typed "FQSEZSEZ-BA/USD" in Abacus (Sabre). As others have said, it might not be bookable. I don't know.

correctioncx Mar 7, 2013 3:03 am

Actually if the Global Explorer fare is still Valid then it is NOT bad at all. because take the 34K miles, only 3.5K USD!

And u can take QR to escape SEZ first and then can end up in other parts of Africa Oneworld airline flies to..

Can be considered.......

jerry a. laska Mar 7, 2013 9:36 am


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 20374903)
I can't seem to get the SEZ fares to pop up? How did you do it?

the fares look really good!!!! It might still be bookable as the first sector maybe able to be a land segment? can't it be???

No.

correctioncx Mar 7, 2013 9:53 am


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 20377458)
No.

Well then global explorer seems ok? U can now use QR?

However how do we ticket this?

pandaperth Jul 2, 2013 2:30 am

New Version of the Rule Sheet - dated 1 July 2013
 
Now showing on the OW web site - link here

As far as I can see, the only change is in Rule 10 "Sales Restrictions"

Previous Wording:

When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within the European Common Aviation Area (ECAA)/Switzerland.
New wording:

When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable when BOTH travel originates and sales are made within Europe.

JohnAx Jul 2, 2013 8:50 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 21025845)
Now showing on the OW web site - link here

As far as I can see, the only change is in Rule 10 "Sales Restrictions"

Previous Wording:
New wording:

Sounds like Europeans can now take advantage of cheap(er) ex-CAI fares without leaving home.

FlyerTalker688786 Jul 2, 2013 8:55 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 21027155)
Sounds like Europeans can now take advantage of cheap(er) ex-CAI fares without leaving home.

Please explain. ex-CAI would be ex-Middle East rather than ex-Europe I would think. No?

JohnAx Jul 2, 2013 8:03 pm


Originally Posted by chongcao (Post 21027178)
Please explain. ex-CAI would be ex-Middle East rather than ex-Europe I would think. No?

For xONEx trip-routing purposes, North Africa and the Middle East are in "Europe". That doesn't mean that OW is using the same definition for the purposes of the rule being discussed, of course.

Himeno Jul 3, 2013 5:13 am


Originally Posted by JohnAx (Post 21031128)
For xONEx trip-routing purposes, North Africa and the Middle East are in "Europe". That doesn't mean that OW is using the same definition for the purposes of the rule being discussed, of course.

Even though Middle East is part of "Europe" for continent routing rules, it is separate for other rules. ie, you can finish "within the middle east", not "within europe".

justin1123 Aug 13, 2013 3:07 am

How can I find out the latest LONEx and DONEx fares for different countries?

I have KVS but the RTW option is no longer there under fares. Also haven't seen a list on here anywhere recently, apologies if I have missed this somehow!

Himeno Aug 13, 2013 3:38 am


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 21262503)
How can I find out the latest LONEx and DONEx fares for different countries?

I have KVS but the RTW option is no longer there under fares. Also haven't seen a list on here anywhere recently, apologies if I have missed this somehow!

Expert Flyer, or pricing out basic trips on the tool.

No way at the moment to see current prices from more then one country at a time.

pandaperth Aug 13, 2013 3:51 am


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 21262503)
How can I find out the latest LONEx and DONEx fares for different countries?

I have KVS but the RTW option is no longer there under fares. Also haven't seen a list on here anywhere recently, apologies if I have missed this somehow!

The RTW option in KVS has been gone for some time
but there is a (messy) way to get at them (but only one at a time, as Himeno said)
See http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php?Source=SD-HELP#RTW

anabolism Aug 30, 2013 11:05 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 21025845)
As far as I can see, the only change is in Rule 10 "Sales Restrictions"

It no longer permits the purchase of additional segments above the four (six in N.A.) per continent. Or maybe this happened even earlier but I missed it then?


Originally Posted by justin1123 (Post 21262503)
How can I find out the latest LONEx and DONEx fares for different countries?

I use ExpertFlyer. Enter the same airport code for origination, destination, and purchasing location. If desired, can also enter A, D, or L as booking code.

Still have to do a separate query origin by origin. There was some discussion a few years back about making the comparison spreadsheet available to EF subscribers, which would both make things easier for people to compare fares, continents, classes, and origins, and also reduce EF's costs since subscribers would access the spreadsheet rather than making multiple queries. But nothing came of it.

pandaperth Sep 15, 2013 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 21366507)
It no longer permits the purchase of additional segments above the four (six in N.A.) per continent. Or maybe this happened even earlier but I missed it then?

Well spotted:)

Checking on earlier versions - and the ability to purchase additional segments was still there in the March-2013 version.
So yes, rules have been further enhanced:(


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