Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1186

Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Finland
Programs: AY+ Platinum (OWE)
Posts: 103
Thanks for the ideas! Checked those airports and none of them have evening flights that I could make it to. Let's see what Flightradar24 suggests.
#1187




Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 278
But your best bet would be to sign up for ExpertFlyer and do your own searches - it is very fast once you get the hang of it.
#1188

Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Finland
Programs: AY+ Platinum (OWE)
Posts: 103
#1189




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
- IB 6117 MAD 4:35 PM MIA 8:30 PM
- IB 2625 BCN 6:35 PM BOS 9:15 PM
- IB 2627 BCN 6:55 PM JFK 10:00 PM
- AY 15 HEL 5:20 PM JFK 7:05 PM
- BA 239 LHR 8:10 PM BOS 10:30 PM
- AA 141 LHR 7:55 PM JFK 10:43 PM
- BA 183 LHR 7:05 PM JFK 9:50 PM
- AA 139 0 LHR 6:50 PM LAX 10:04 PM
#1190




Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MEX
Posts: 1,030
Started my DONE4 this past weekend!
CAI-DOH-FRA-MAD-MEX-(bunch of US stuff)-DFW-Asia-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH
Was hoping to close it out with PER-FCO-DOH, but that Rome flight is seasonal for now. Either way, really proud of that ridiculous backtracking to close it out in the Middle East 😁
CAI-DOH-FRA-MAD-MEX-(bunch of US stuff)-DFW-Asia-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH
Was hoping to close it out with PER-FCO-DOH, but that Rome flight is seasonal for now. Either way, really proud of that ridiculous backtracking to close it out in the Middle East 😁
#1191



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Started my DONE4 this past weekend!
CAI-DOH-FRA-MAD-MEX-(bunch of US stuff)-DFW-Asia-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH
Was hoping to close it out with PER-FCO-DOH, but that Rome flight is seasonal for now. Either way, really proud of that ridiculous backtracking to close it out in the Middle East 😁
CAI-DOH-FRA-MAD-MEX-(bunch of US stuff)-DFW-Asia-SYD-PER-LHR-DOH
Was hoping to close it out with PER-FCO-DOH, but that Rome flight is seasonal for now. Either way, really proud of that ridiculous backtracking to close it out in the Middle East 😁
and yes - that PER-LHR flight will probably fly right over DOH
Last edited by pandaperth; Mar 6, 2023 at 11:02 am
#1193



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
#1194




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
#1195

Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Finland
Programs: AY+ Platinum (OWE)
Posts: 103
Expert Flyer really is your friend. Here, the Timetable query is what you want. Use the "Arrival/Departure" city tab and try the OneWorld destinations in Europe, then filter by OneWorld airline. Here are a few I found (a more careful search would find others):
- IB 6117 MAD 4:35 PM MIA 8:30 PM
- IB 2625 BCN 6:35 PM BOS 9:15 PM
- IB 2627 BCN 6:55 PM JFK 10:00 PM
- AY 15 HEL 5:20 PM JFK 7:05 PM
- BA 239 LHR 8:10 PM BOS 10:30 PM
- AA 141 LHR 7:55 PM JFK 10:43 PM
- BA 183 LHR 7:05 PM JFK 9:50 PM
- AA 139 0 LHR 6:50 PM LAX 10:04 PM
Thank you for your help! I know feel confident that it's the best choice for my travel needs this time.
#1196

Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 15
Hi All - could I check something with you?
A very helpful lady in the BA Gold call centre is trying to help me book my DONE4, but ticketing have come back and said tha the itinerary isn't valid:
OSL-LHR-HKG-SYD-NOU-SYD-MEL-DPS-KUL-KIX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOS-PHX-LHR-OSL
The issue seems to be the Hong Kong leg - ticketing are saying that counts as me going to Asia twice, but I understood from the fare rules that you were allowed a stop in Asia on the way to South Pacific sector. Is the issue that I was stopping in HK for 2 days? Is it that I need to spend less than 24 hours in Hong Kong for the route to be valid, or are they just wrong?
I've asked them to look at BA15 from LHR-SYD instead as technically it's a single flight (albeit with a touch down in SIN) as an alternative. If I do that then I guess I could insert Hong Kong between KUL & KIX if I don't want to lose my hong kong stop? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
A very helpful lady in the BA Gold call centre is trying to help me book my DONE4, but ticketing have come back and said tha the itinerary isn't valid:
OSL-LHR-HKG-SYD-NOU-SYD-MEL-DPS-KUL-KIX-HNL-LAX-MIA-BOS-PHX-LHR-OSL
The issue seems to be the Hong Kong leg - ticketing are saying that counts as me going to Asia twice, but I understood from the fare rules that you were allowed a stop in Asia on the way to South Pacific sector. Is the issue that I was stopping in HK for 2 days? Is it that I need to spend less than 24 hours in Hong Kong for the route to be valid, or are they just wrong?
I've asked them to look at BA15 from LHR-SYD instead as technically it's a single flight (albeit with a touch down in SIN) as an alternative. If I do that then I guess I could insert Hong Kong between KUL & KIX if I don't want to lose my hong kong stop? Or am I barking up the wrong tree?
Thanks in advance for any advice!
#1197



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Did they actually say that two visits to Asia is the problem?
Because that looks fine to me.
But your LAX-MIA and BOS-PHX segments are invalid. You are allowed only one flight between states in column A and states in column B
Because that looks fine to me.
But your LAX-MIA and BOS-PHX segments are invalid. You are allowed only one flight between states in column A and states in column B
#1198

Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 15
I hadn't picked up on the US thing - so I guess I change that to LAX-PHX-MIA-BOS
#1199


Join Date: Apr 2007
Programs: QF, AC, Hyatt, Hilton
Posts: 4,237
It really is quite amazing how convoluted the rules are. I feel there should be a masters degree in the oneworld Explorer, conferred by FlyerTalk. I remember in the dying days of the exceptional ex-Mozambique xONEx, I ran up against Qantas telling me that Morocco is in Africa. Well, geographically it is, but not according to the oneworld hierarchy. To Qantas's credit, it honoured the very low base fare, even after it had been pulled, once I pointed out the rules about where Morocco fitted into oneworld's unique map.
#1200

Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 46
Just looking at my own proposed plan based on the conversation about Asia above and think I might be against the rules here, but happy for someone to correct me.
Proposed routing is CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
The rules state:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and
Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
Based on this, I think I might be in contravention of this rule, as I have two arrivals/departures in Asia (HNL-HND-SYD and AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH). But my first arrival departure is to get between Southwest Pacific and North America, rather than Europe, so looks like I'm in trouble with this rule?
It's frustrating - I am only including HND between HNL and SYD because it seems like there's never any availability on Qantas D fare on the direct route... Ugh, back to the drawing board for this section.
Proposed routing is CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
The rules state:
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent
except as follows:
1. Two permitted in North America.
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and
Europe/Middle East.
3. Two permitted in Europe/Middle East for travel to/from/via Africa.
If travel is to/from Europe in both directions, itinerary may not include Mauritius/South Africa.
Based on this, I think I might be in contravention of this rule, as I have two arrivals/departures in Asia (HNL-HND-SYD and AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH). But my first arrival departure is to get between Southwest Pacific and North America, rather than Europe, so looks like I'm in trouble with this rule?
It's frustrating - I am only including HND between HNL and SYD because it seems like there's never any availability on Qantas D fare on the direct route... Ugh, back to the drawing board for this section.



