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Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
Apr 22, 2023 | 12:19 pm
#1276
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
As an extension to this, I had an itinerary CAI-xCMN-JFK-DCA-DFW-MEL-xSYD-(SIN-MLE)-xDOH-SEZ-xDOH-LHR-DOH which I've asked to be changed to:
CAI-xCMN-JFK-DCA-DFW-MEL-xSYD-SIN-xCMB-MLE-xDOH-SEZ-DOH-LHR-IST-AMM which I was told was valid and sent off for pricing.
Now they've come back they want ~740pp including the ~101 change fee.
Question is - does this sound right? Calculating the added taxes via ITA Matrix for IST-AMM comes to about 100pp and SIN-xCMB-MLE about 60pp. I haven't done LHR-IST but considering I had already paid APD for LHR-DOH I can't imagine it being a lot more.
Additionally this is before the first segment, so I'm expecting a reprice but looking at EF I can see the DONE5 fare CAI-CAI filed on 26/12/23 is the same price I had paid originally (or very very close, the 145k EGP translates to ~20 or so difference via Google rate).
In total including change fees I'd expect somewhere around 600 or less for 2 rather than the 1400 they want. I did indeed call AA RTW desk and spent 40 minutes on hold where they said they were on the phone with pricing but they ended up hanging up on me
Calling back they said they would raise it with pricing and I should call back tomorrow.
What's my best course of action here? Or am I really missing something that will make it cost that much?
Thank you all for the continued advice
Edit: by my own calculations of the changed segments I found that this change would have been 1 or so due to reduction of YQ DOH-LHR and APD from 191 to 26 however after pressing with AA they are certain it's correct so I've had to pay it anyway.
That said, I have the fare tax calculation figures, can anyone make more sense of it than me?
Old ticket:
Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 521.70 YQ 309.60 YR 47.50 XT
Fare Calculation: CAISEZDOHLONDOH4785.47NUC4785.47END ROE30.30 XT41.10YR4.70AY1.70PZXFDFW4.5PD191.00GB55.81UB10.9 0EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70EQ19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5. 90XY3.20XA9.40AY33.40AU8.80QR3.60WG31.90WY50.20BQ5 0.20H927.60QA.80PZ27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.60R91. 70S412.5
New ticket:
Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 722.20 YQ 350.70 YR 678.90 XT
Fare Calculation 0NUC0END ROE30.30XT304.30YQ255.70YR41.20ZZ27.00SG6.70L75.00 OP17.80TR2.70M62.10O712.60P13.80XFDFW4.5PD14.10AY2 .50PZ26.00GB55.81UB10.90EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70E Q19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5.90XY3.20XA33.40AU8.80QR50.2 0BQ50.20H927.60QA27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.6
Is there any way I can estimate the taxes using ITA to calculate on 001 stock?
Additionally, am I correct in the total ticket value should be the fare + the taxes? At 145000EGP (~3778GBP), 720.2 YQ, 350.7 YR, 678.9 XT that comes to 5527.8 pp however my credit card charges (there has been multiple due to them saying there is technical limitations with EGP) comes to 6258.61 which is more than what it says?
Would appreciate anyone's advice again on this because if I've overpaid 629.81pp taking into account the change fee I would very much like it back.
CAI-xCMN-JFK-DCA-DFW-MEL-xSYD-SIN-xCMB-MLE-xDOH-SEZ-DOH-LHR-IST-AMM which I was told was valid and sent off for pricing.
Now they've come back they want ~740pp including the ~101 change fee.
Question is - does this sound right? Calculating the added taxes via ITA Matrix for IST-AMM comes to about 100pp and SIN-xCMB-MLE about 60pp. I haven't done LHR-IST but considering I had already paid APD for LHR-DOH I can't imagine it being a lot more.
Additionally this is before the first segment, so I'm expecting a reprice but looking at EF I can see the DONE5 fare CAI-CAI filed on 26/12/23 is the same price I had paid originally (or very very close, the 145k EGP translates to ~20 or so difference via Google rate).
In total including change fees I'd expect somewhere around 600 or less for 2 rather than the 1400 they want. I did indeed call AA RTW desk and spent 40 minutes on hold where they said they were on the phone with pricing but they ended up hanging up on me
Calling back they said they would raise it with pricing and I should call back tomorrow.What's my best course of action here? Or am I really missing something that will make it cost that much?
Thank you all for the continued advice
Edit: by my own calculations of the changed segments I found that this change would have been 1 or so due to reduction of YQ DOH-LHR and APD from 191 to 26 however after pressing with AA they are certain it's correct so I've had to pay it anyway.
That said, I have the fare tax calculation figures, can anyone make more sense of it than me?
Old ticket:
Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 521.70 YQ 309.60 YR 47.50 XT
Fare Calculation: CAISEZDOHLONDOH4785.47NUC4785.47END ROE30.30 XT41.10YR4.70AY1.70PZXFDFW4.5PD191.00GB55.81UB10.9 0EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70EQ19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5. 90XY3.20XA9.40AY33.40AU8.80QR3.60WG31.90WY50.20BQ5 0.20H927.60QA.80PZ27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.60R91. 70S412.5
New ticket:
Fare : EGP 145000.00
Taxes : 722.20 YQ 350.70 YR 678.90 XT
Fare Calculation 0NUC0END ROE30.30XT304.30YQ255.70YR41.20ZZ27.00SG6.70L75.00 OP17.80TR2.70M62.10O712.60P13.80XFDFW4.5PD14.10AY2 .50PZ26.00GB55.81UB10.90EG4.10XK20.90QH1.40JK1.70E Q19.70MA35.40US5.50YC5.90XY3.20XA33.40AU8.80QR50.2 0BQ50.20H927.60QA27.60G441.80DW.40O2.80O94.6
Is there any way I can estimate the taxes using ITA to calculate on 001 stock?
Additionally, am I correct in the total ticket value should be the fare + the taxes? At 145000EGP (~3778GBP), 720.2 YQ, 350.7 YR, 678.9 XT that comes to 5527.8 pp however my credit card charges (there has been multiple due to them saying there is technical limitations with EGP) comes to 6258.61 which is more than what it says?
Would appreciate anyone's advice again on this because if I've overpaid 629.81pp taking into account the change fee I would very much like it back.
Apr 22, 2023 | 2:11 pm
#1277
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 286
My old itinerary was:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
DOH-LHR: QR0011 31/01/24
LHR-DOH: QR0004 06/02/24
My new Itinerary is:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
SIN-CMB: UL0309 14/01/24
CMB-MLE: UL0101 15/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
LHR-IST: AA6465 01/03/24
IST-AMM: RJ0168 04/03/24
Very much appreciate you helping with this, do you have any idea also if the Fare + YQ + YR + XT should equal the total price? I am very green with pricing, but also if you have any resources I can learn myself I will look too.
Last edited by newEUer; Apr 22, 2023 at 2:42 pm
Apr 22, 2023 | 6:32 pm
#1278
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
Sure I can, (SIN-MLE) means surface segment but apologies if I have the wrong notation.
My old itinerary was:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
DOH-LHR: QR0011 31/01/24
LHR-DOH: QR0004 06/02/24
My new Itinerary is:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
SIN-CMB: UL0309 14/01/24
CMB-MLE: UL0101 15/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
LHR-IST: AA6465 01/03/24
IST-AMM: RJ0168 04/03/24
Very much appreciate you helping with this, do you have any idea also if the Fare + YQ + YR + XT should equal the total price? I am very green with pricing, but also if you have any resources I can learn myself I will look too.
My old itinerary was:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
DOH-LHR: QR0011 31/01/24
LHR-DOH: QR0004 06/02/24
My new Itinerary is:
CAI-CMN: AA7972 26/12/23
CMN-JFK: AA7950 26/12/23
JFK-DCA: AA4479 29/12/23
DCA-DFW: AA1624 31/12/23
DFW-MEL: AA7386 03/01/24
MEL-SYD: QF0432 12/01/24
SYD-SIN: QF0001 12/01/24
SIN-CMB: UL0309 14/01/24
CMB-MLE: UL0101 15/01/24
MLE-DOH: QR0675 22/01/24
DOH-SEZ: QR0678 23/01/24
SEZ-DOH: QR0679 30/01/24
LHR-IST: AA6465 01/03/24
IST-AMM: RJ0168 04/03/24
Very much appreciate you helping with this, do you have any idea also if the Fare + YQ + YR + XT should equal the total price? I am very green with pricing, but also if you have any resources I can learn myself I will look too.
Open-jaw is SIN//CMB or SIN/-CMB. There is a distinction between these but let's not get in there now as it's irrelevant to xONEx.
I'm not sure why my Sabre is autopricing your itinerary as a DONE6 when it should just be a DONE5, but this is what I got. I assume you are buying this ticket from the UK and this is priced in GBP? When was the old ticket issued and when did you get the quote for the new ticket? As of now, the taxes and fees should add up to 1825.21GBP, slightly higher than the quote you got. Don't know if it's due to currency fluctuation or YR/YQ/tax rate change.
Lastly, I will be very surprised if AA is willing to book you on LHR-IST on AA as a standalone flight. The flight is "INTL ONLINE CONEX/STPVR TFC ONLY," but if AA issued it for you, go for it.
Code:
WQCAI/AAA26DEC/CD/XCMN/AAA26DEC/CDJFK/AAA29DEC/CDDCA/AAA31DEC/CDDFW/AAA03JAN/CDMEL/AQF12JAN/CD/XSYD/AQF12JAN/CDSIN/AUL14JAN/CD/XCMB/AUL15JANMLE/AQR22JAN/CD/XDOH/AQR23JAN/CDSEZ/AQR30JAN/CD/XDOH/AQR31JAN/CDLHR/AAA01MAR/CDIST/ARJ04MAR/CDAMM-RW/MGBP/SLON/TLON/VAA/Q/DONE5
PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
CAI
XCMN AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
NYC AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
WAS AA D 29DEC DONE6 29DEC 29DEC 02P
DFW AA D 31DEC DONE6 31DEC 31DEC 02P
MEL AA D 03JAN DONE6 03JAN 03JAN 02P
XSYD QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
SIN QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
XCMB UL D 14JAN DONE6 14JAN 14JAN 40K
MLE UL D 15JAN DONE6 15JAN 15JAN 40K
XDOH QR D 22JAN DONE6 22JAN 22JAN 02P
SEZ QR D 23JAN DONE6 23JAN 23JAN 02P
XDOH QR D 30JAN DONE6 30JAN 30JAN 02P
LON QR D 31JAN DONE6 31JAN 31JAN 02P
IST AA D 01MAR DONE6 01MAR 01MAR 02P
AMM RJ D 04MAR DONE6 04MAR 04MAR 02P
CAI S U R F A C E
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4300.00
TAX GBP 10.40EG GBP 3.90XK GBP 1810.91XT
TOTAL GBP 6125.21
ADT-01 DONE6
MD
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN UL X/
CMB UL MLE QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON AA IST RJ AMM//CAI
5362.01NUC5362.01END ROE30.772
XT GBP20.10QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.30MA GBP34.00US
XT GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP13.50AY GBP32.50AU
XT GBP8.30QR GBP1.20WG GBP28.30WY GBP26.20SG GBP6.50L7
XT GBP4.80OP GBP48.20BQ GBP48.20H9 GBP26.40QA GBP0.80PZ
XT GBP26.40G4 GBP40.20DW GBP26.00GB GBP55.81UB GBP17.60TR
XT GBP426.00YR GBP856.30YQ GBP2.60M6 GBP2.00O7 GBP0.80O9
XT GBP4.40R9 GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.10P1 GBP3.60XFDFW4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15*VALID ON ONEWORLD
ENDOS*ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL01DEC23/2359
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02606266GBP
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
MD
.
WQDF
WQDF1
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4300.00
TAX GBP 10.40EG GBP 3.90XK GBP 1810.91XT
TOTAL GBP 6125.21
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN UL X/CM
B UL MLE QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON AA IST RJ AMM//CAI5362.
01NUC5362.01END ROE30.772
XT GBP20.10QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.30MA GBP34.00US
XT GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP13.50AY GBP32.50AU
XT GBP8.30QR GBP1.20WG GBP28.30WY GBP26.20SG GBP6.50L7
XT GBP4.80OP GBP48.20BQ GBP48.20H9 GBP26.40QA GBP0.80PZ
XT GBP26.40G4 GBP40.20DW GBP26.00GB GBP55.81UB GBP17.60TR
XT GBP426.00YR GBP856.30YQ GBP2.60M6 GBP2.00O7 GBP0.80O9
XT GBP4.40R9 GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.10P1 GBP3.60XFDFW4.5
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02606266GBP
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN LON ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE6 EGP 5362.01 CAI-CAI AA /RT RTG RW
5362.01 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
271.60 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
201.00:USD 250.00 *CMN* *AA* 9592500
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
MD
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
851.70 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
160.80:USD 200.00 *SYD* *QF* 2234995
269.40:USD 335.00 *SIN* *UL* 502318
418.10:USD 520.00 *MLE* *QR* 837
3.40:JOD 3.00 *IST* *RJ* 8105100
4.60 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
4.60:USD 5.70 *IST* *RJ* 1130
154.40 /YRF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
154.40:USD 192.00 *IST* *RJ* 538450
32.50 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
32.50:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
4.30 AU/QR PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
4.30:AUD 8.03 *MEL* *QF* 001 370625
4.00 AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
4.00:AUD 7.41 *MEL* *QF* 002 2229687
1.20 AU/WG SAFETY AND SECURITY CHARGE DEPARTUR
1.20:AUD 2.18 *MEL* *QF* 001 253750
16.90 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
16.90:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *QF* 001 287500
MD
11.40 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
11.40:AUD 21.00 *DFW* *AA* 002 218437
10.40 EG/EG3 SOLIDARITY TAX
10.40:EGP 400.00 *CAI* *AA* 003 115000
1.60 EG/EQ SERVICE CHARGE
1.60:USD 2.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 20000
1.30 EG/JK DEPARTURE FEE
1.30:EGP 50.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
0.40 EG/O2 DEPARTURE SERVICE FEE
0.40:EGP 15.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 100000
0.80 EG/O9 CUTE CUPPS FEE
0.80:USD 1.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
20.10 EG/QH EMBARKATION TAX
20.10:USD 25.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 40000
1.60 EG/S4 INTERNATIONAL ADVANCED PASSENGER INF
1.60:USD 1.99 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
3.90 EG/XK DEVELOPMENT FEE
3.90:GBP 150.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
26.00 GB/GB AIR PASSENGER DUTY APD
26.00:GBP 26.00 *LHR* *AA* 001 370000
55.81 GB/UB PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
55.81:GBP 55.81 *LHR* *AA* 001 4724938
2.00 JO/O72 AIRPORT SECURITY CHARGE ARRIVALS
MD
2.00:JOD 1.75 *IST* *RJ* 002 110000
15.50 MA/MA PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE
15.50:MAD 194 *CMN* *AA* 001 44375
3.80 MA/MAC AIRPORT SECURITY TAX
3.80:MAD 48 *CMN* *AA* 012 125000
48.20 MV/BQ DEPARTURE FEE
48.20:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 19218
48.20 MV/H9 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT FEE INTERNATIONA
48.20:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 110000
26.40 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
13.20:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
13.20:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
0.80 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
0.40:USD 0.50 *SEZ* *QR* 002 110000
0.40:USD 0.50 *MLE* *QR* 002 110000
26.40 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
13.20:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
13.20:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
4.40 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.20:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
2.20:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
40.20 SC/DW PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGES
40.20:USD 50.00 *SEZ* *QR* 001 45000
MD
12.10 SC/P1 DISEMBARKATION LEVY
12.10:USD 15.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 100000
6.50 SG/L7 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT LEVY
6.50:SGD 10.80 *SIN* *UL* 001 105000
4.80 SG/OP AVIATION LEVY
4.80:SGD 8.00 *SIN* *UL* 001 120000
26.20 SG/SG PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY FEE P
26.20:SGD 43.40 *SIN* *UL* 001 27498
2.60 TR/M6 FLIGHTS SECURITY CHARGE INTERNATIONA
2.60:EUR 3.00 *IST* *RJ* 001 340000
17.60 TR/TR AIRPORT SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATIONAL
17.60:EUR 20.00 *IST* *RJ* 001 139218
13.50 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
4.50:USD 5.60 *JFK* 001 833212
4.50:USD 5.60 *DCA* 001 833212
4.50:USD 5.60 *DFW* 001 833212
34.00 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
17.00:USD 21.10 *DFW* *AA* 014 198906
17.00:USD 21.10 *CAI* *AA* 015 149453
3.10 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.10:USD 3.83 *CMN* *AA* 001 112500
5.60 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
5.60:USD 7.00 *CMN* *AA* 002 130000
MD
5.20 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
5.20:USD 6.52 *CMN* *AA* 001 125000
3.60 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
3.60:USD 4.50 *DFW*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
30.7720000 EGP-ROE EFF 01APR23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1EGP:0.02606266GBP
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1USD:0.80403305GBP 1JOD:1.13403815GBP
1AUD:0.54108014GBP 1EGP:0.02606266GBP
1MAD:0.08012198GBP 1QAR:0.22079721GBP
1SGD:0.60317005GBP 1EUR:0.88162306GBP
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
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Apr 23, 2023 | 1:35 am
#1279
Join Date: Jul 2020
Posts: 286
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Fare + tax 1 + tax 2 + XT is the total.
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I'm not sure why my Sabre is autopricing your itinerary as a DONE6 when it should just be a DONE5, but this is what I got. I assume you are buying this ticket from the UK and this is priced in GBP? When was the old ticket issued and when did you get the quote for the new ticket? As of now, the taxes and fees should add up to 1825.21GBP, slightly higher than the quote you got. Don't know if it's due to currency fluctuation or YR/YQ/tax rate change.
Lastly, I will be very surprised if AA is willing to book you on LHR-IST on AA as a standalone flight. The flight is "INTL ONLINE CONEX/STPVR TFC ONLY," but if AA issued it for you, go for it.
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Fare + tax 1 + tax 2 + XT is the total.
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I'm not sure why my Sabre is autopricing your itinerary as a DONE6 when it should just be a DONE5, but this is what I got. I assume you are buying this ticket from the UK and this is priced in GBP? When was the old ticket issued and when did you get the quote for the new ticket? As of now, the taxes and fees should add up to 1825.21GBP, slightly higher than the quote you got. Don't know if it's due to currency fluctuation or YR/YQ/tax rate change.
Lastly, I will be very surprised if AA is willing to book you on LHR-IST on AA as a standalone flight. The flight is "INTL ONLINE CONEX/STPVR TFC ONLY," but if AA issued it for you, go for it.
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Indeed it is priced in GBP, however I'm not sure if PoS is Dallas or if it's London? I'm not sure there would be much difference anyway.
Agreed it is very odd that LHR-IST is AA standalone but it is ticketed and earns better Avios to QRPC anyway so I'll go with it. It's strange about the DONE6 pricing too. I wonder why?
In regards to your knowledge on fare + XT + YQ + YR I would say in this case I have definitely overpaid the ticket. My total amex debits to AA for this end up at 6263.41pp. Subtract the ~3778 fare, 1825.21 taxes you calculated, and 101 change fee I'm over by 558.8 per person.
Does this pass the sense check to you? If so, how do you think I should tackle this? Ask for total recalculation and reconcilation or is it worth going the complaint route as I've tried to sort this over 10s of phone calls
Thanks again
I appreciate it so muchEdit: I forgot to include DOH-LHR: QR0015 02/02/24 above so it's a stopover rather than a transit, do you think that could be the reason?
Last edited by newEUer; Apr 23, 2023 at 2:49 am
Apr 26, 2023 | 3:03 am
#1280
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Programs: qantas platinum
Posts: 65
Difference in surcharges qatar
I hope someone can confirm for me - I'm pricing the surcharges on a DONE5 my husband and I want to take next year, using ITA Matrix. The surcharges listed on a Qatar ATH-DOH-SYD sector are $AUD1409. But if I do two searches - ATH-DOH, then DOH-SYD the surcharges list as $AUD379, then $AUD343 respectively still with Qatar - a saving of $AUD687/person. Is this correct? If we stay in DOH for a couple of days, will those lower surcharges stand? I'd prefer to fly Qatar business class on that long haul.
Any advice much appreciated.
Any advice much appreciated.
Apr 26, 2023 | 8:24 am
#1281
Join Date: Jul 2020
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I hope someone can confirm for me - I'm pricing the surcharges on a DONE5 my husband and I want to take next year, using ITA Matrix. The surcharges listed on a Qatar ATH-DOH-SYD sector are $AUD1409. But if I do two searches - ATH-DOH, then DOH-SYD the surcharges list as $AUD379, then $AUD343 respectively still with Qatar - a saving of $AUD687/person. Is this correct? If we stay in DOH for a couple of days, will those lower surcharges stand? I'd prefer to fly Qatar business class on that long haul.
Any advice much appreciated.
Any advice much appreciated.
FYI the figures may be slightly different depending on your ticketing carrier but pretty close. Good find!
Apr 26, 2023 | 2:09 pm
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This is sort of opposite of LHR!
Apr 26, 2023 | 6:27 pm
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Mate thank you so much for this, my initial ticket was priced 9/03, and the one that I have LHR-DOH was the 15/03, my latest one was 21/04.
Indeed it is priced in GBP, however I'm not sure if PoS is Dallas or if it's London? I'm not sure there would be much difference anyway.
Agreed it is very odd that LHR-IST is AA standalone but it is ticketed and earns better Avios to QRPC anyway so I'll go with it. It's strange about the DONE6 pricing too. I wonder why?
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Edit: I forgot to include DOH-LHR: QR0015 02/02/24 above so it's a stopover rather than a transit, do you think that could be the reason?
Indeed it is priced in GBP, however I'm not sure if PoS is Dallas or if it's London? I'm not sure there would be much difference anyway.
Agreed it is very odd that LHR-IST is AA standalone but it is ticketed and earns better Avios to QRPC anyway so I'll go with it. It's strange about the DONE6 pricing too. I wonder why?
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Edit: I forgot to include DOH-LHR: QR0015 02/02/24 above so it's a stopover rather than a transit, do you think that could be the reason?
I ran the autoprice tax breakdown again, back date to 21APR. Not that different. Ticket was probably issued in the UK if your taxes are calculated in GBP.
Code:
1 AA7972D 26DEC 2 CAICMN GK1 0840 1320 /E
OPERATED BY ROYAL AIR MAROC
2 AA7950D 26DEC 2 CMNJFK GK1 1550 1755 /E
OPERATED BY ROYAL AIR MAROC
3 AA4479D 29DEC 5 JFKDCA GK1 2005 2130 /E
OPERATED BY REPUBLIC AIRWAYS AS AMERICAN EAGLE
4 AA1624D 31DEC 7 DCADFW GK1 1454 1740 /E
5 AA7386D 03JAN 3 DFWMEL GK1 1910 0545 05JAN 5 /E
OPERATED BY QANTAS AIRWAYS
6 QF 432D 12JAN 5 MELSYD GK1 1000 1125 /E
7 QF 1D 12JAN 5 SYDSIN GK1 1700 2205 /E
8 UL 309D 14JAN 7 SINCMB GK1 2010 2130 /E
9 UL 101D 15JAN 1 CMBMLE GK1 0720 0815 /E
10 QR 675D 22JAN 1 MLEDOH GK1 1945 2205 /E
11 QR 678D 23JAN 2 DOHSEZ GK1 0220 0820 /E
12 QR 679D 30JAN 2 SEZDOH GK1 1920 2320 /E
13 QR 15D 31JAN 3 DOHLHR GK1 1520 1950 /E
14 AA6465D 01MAR 5 LHRIST GK1 1640 2340 /E
OPERATED BY BRITISH AIRWAYS
15 RJ 168D 04MAR 1 ISTAMM GK1 2030 2250 /E
WPRWSLONTLONAAAB21APR23
PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
CAI
XCMN AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
NYC AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
WAS AA D 29DEC DONE6 29DEC 29DEC 02P
DFW AA D 31DEC DONE6 31DEC 31DEC 02P
MEL AA D 03JAN DONE6 03JAN 03JAN 02P
XSYD QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
SIN QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
XCMB UL D 14JAN DONE6 14JAN 14JAN 40K
MLE UL D 15JAN DONE6 15JAN 15JAN 40K
XDOH QR D 22JAN DONE6 22JAN 22JAN 02P
SEZ QR D 23JAN DONE6 23JAN 23JAN 02P
XDOH QR D 30JAN DONE6 30JAN 30JAN 02P
LON QR D 31JAN DONE6 31JAN 31JAN 02P
IST AA D 01MAR DONE6 01MAR 01MAR 02P
AMM RJ D 04MAR DONE6 04MAR 04MAR 02P
CAI S U R F A C E
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4302.00
TAX GBP 10.40EG GBP 3.90XK GBP 1820.41XT
TOTAL GBP 6136.71
ADT-01 DONE6
MD
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN UL X/
CMB UL MLE QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON AA IST RJ AMM//CAI
5362.01NUC5362.01END ROE30.772
XT GBP20.10QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.50MA GBP34.00US
XT GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP13.50AY GBP32.40AU
XT GBP8.80QR GBP3.50WG GBP31.00WY GBP26.20SG GBP6.50L7
XT GBP4.80OP GBP48.30BQ GBP48.30H9 GBP26.60QA GBP3.60PZ
XT GBP26.60G4 GBP40.20DW GBP26.00GB GBP55.81UB GBP17.60TR
XT GBP426.10YR GBP856.70YQ GBP2.60M6 GBP2.00O7 GBP0.80O9
XT GBP4.40R9 GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.10P1 GBP3.60XFDFW4.5
ENDOS*SEG1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/15*VALID ON ONEWORLD
ENDOS*ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL01DEC23/2359
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02607377GBP
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
ATTN*AIR EXTRAS AVAILABLE - SEE WP*AE
ATTN*BAGGAGE INFO AVAILABLE - SEE WP*BAG
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PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4302.00
TAX GBP 10.40EG GBP 3.90XK GBP 1820.41XT
TOTAL GBP 6136.71
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN UL X/CMB UL MLE QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON AA IST RJ AMM//CAI5362.01NUC5362.01END ROE30.772
XT GBP20.10QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.50MA GBP34.00US
XT GBP5.20YC GBP5.60XY GBP3.10XA GBP13.50AY GBP32.40AU
XT GBP8.80QR GBP3.50WG GBP31.00WY GBP26.20SG GBP6.50L7
XT GBP4.80OP GBP48.30BQ GBP48.30H9 GBP26.60QA GBP3.60PZ
XT GBP26.60G4 GBP40.20DW GBP26.00GB GBP55.81UB GBP17.60TR
XT GBP426.10YR GBP856.70YQ GBP2.60M6 GBP2.00O7 GBP0.80O9
XT GBP4.40R9 GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.10P1 GBP3.60XFDFW4.5
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02607377GBP
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN LON ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE6 EGP 5362.01 CAI-CAI AA /RT RTG RW
5362.01 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
271.70 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
201.10:USD 250.00 *CMN* *AA* 9592500
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
12.90:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
852.10 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
160.90:USD 200.00 *SYD* *QF* 2234995
269.50:USD 335.00 *SIN* *UL* 502318
418.30:USD 520.00 *MLE* *QR* 837
3.40:JOD 3.00 *IST* *RJ* 8105100
4.60 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
4.60:USD 5.70 *IST* *RJ* 1130
154.40 /YRF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
154.40:USD 192.00 *IST* *RJ* 538450
32.40 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
32.40:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
3.20 AU/QR PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
3.20:AUD 5.99 *MEL* *QF* 001 367031
5.60 AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
5.60:AUD 10.29 *MEL* *QF* 002 96674
3.50 AU/WG SAFETY AND SECURITY CHARGE DEPARTURE
3.50:AUD 6.50 *MEL* *QF* 001 2396
17.40 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
17.40:AUD 32.16 *SYD* *QF* 001 188720
13.60 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
13.60:AUD 25.13 *DFW* *AA* 002 213295
10.40 EG/EG3 SOLIDARITY TAX
10.40:EGP 400.00 *CAI* *AA* 003 115000
1.60 EG/EQ SERVICE CHARGE
1.60:USD 2.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 20000
1.30 EG/JK DEPARTURE FEE
1.30:EGP 50.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
0.40 EG/O2 DEPARTURE SERVICE FEE
0.40:EGP 15.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 100000
0.80 EG/O9 CUTE CUPPS FEE
0.80:USD 1.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
20.10 EG/QH EMBARKATION TAX
20.10:USD 25.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 40000
1.60 EG/S4 INTERNATIONAL ADVANCED PASSENGER INF
1.60:USD 1.99 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
3.90 EG/XK DEVELOPMENT FEE
3.90:GBP 150.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
26.00 GB/GB AIR PASSENGER DUTY APD
26.00:GBP 26.00 *LHR* *AA* 001 370000
55.81 GB/UB PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
55.81:GBP 55.81 *LHR* *AA* 001 4724938
2.00 JO/O72 AIRPORT SECURITY CHARGE ARRIVALS
2.00:JOD 1.75 *IST* *RJ* 002 110000
15.60 MA/MA PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE
15.60:MAD 194 *CMN* *AA* 001 44375
3.90 MA/MAC AIRPORT SECURITY TAX
3.90:MAD 48 *CMN* *AA* 012 125000
48.30 MV/BQ DEPARTURE FEE
48.30:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 19218
48.30 MV/H9 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT FEE INTERNATIONA
48.30:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 110000
26.60 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
13.30:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
13.30:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
1.60 QA/PZ PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
1.60:USD 2.05 *DOH* *QR* 001 115000
2.00 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
1.60:USD 2.05 *SEZ* *QR* 002 120000
0.40:USD 0.50 *MLE* *QR* 002 110000
26.60 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
13.30:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
13.30:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
4.40 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.20:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
2.20:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
40.20 SC/DW PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGES
40.20:USD 50.00 *SEZ* *QR* 001 45000
12.10 SC/P1 DISEMBARKATION LEVY
12.10:USD 15.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 100000
6.50 SG/L7 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT LEVY
6.50:SGD 10.80 *SIN* *UL* 001 105000
4.80 SG/OP AVIATION LEVY
4.80:SGD 8.00 *SIN* *UL* 001 120000
26.20 SG/SG PASSENGER SERVICE AND SECURITY FEE P
26.20:SGD 43.40 *SIN* *UL* 001 27498
2.60 TR/M6 FLIGHTS SECURITY CHARGE INTERNATIONA
2.60:EUR 3.00 *IST* *RJ* 001 340000
17.60 TR/TR AIRPORT SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATIONAL
17.60:EUR 20.00 *IST* *RJ* 001 139218
13.50 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
4.50:USD 5.60 *JFK* 001 833212
4.50:USD 5.60 *DCA* 001 833212
4.50:USD 5.60 *DFW* 001 833212
34.00 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
17.00:USD 21.10 *DFW* *AA* 014 198906
17.00:USD 21.10 *CAI* *AA* 015 149453
3.10 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.10:USD 3.83 *CMN* *AA* 001 112500
5.60 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
5.60:USD 7.00 *CMN* *AA* 002 130000
5.20 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
5.20:USD 6.52 *CMN* *AA* 001 125000
3.60 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
3.60:USD 4.50 *DFW*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
30.7720000 EGP-ROE EFF 01APR23*30APR23
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1EGP:0.02607377GBP
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1USD:0.80437569GBP 1JOD:1.13452142GBP
1AUD:0.5404293GBP 1EGP:0.02607377GBP
1MAD:0.08053951GBP 1QAR:0.22089131GBP
1SGD:0.6027766GBP 1EUR:0.88141851GBP
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
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In regards to your knowledge on fare + XT + YQ + YR I would say in this case I have definitely overpaid the ticket. My total amex debits to AA for this end up at 6263.41pp. Subtract the ~3778 fare, 1825.21 taxes you calculated, and 101 change fee I'm over by 558.8 per person.
Does this pass the sense check to you? If so, how do you think I should tackle this? Ask for total recalculation and reconcilation or is it worth going the complaint route as I've tried to sort this over 10s of phone calls
Thanks again I appreciate it so much
As to your old itinerary priced on 15MAR, this is the tax breakdown I have, back date to 15MAR:
Code:
1 AA7972D 26DEC 2 CAICMN GK1 0840 1320 /E
OPERATED BY ROYAL AIR MAROC
2 AA7950D 26DEC 2 CMNJFK GK1 1550 1755 /E
OPERATED BY ROYAL AIR MAROC
3 AA4479D 29DEC 5 JFKDCA GK1 2005 2130 /E
OPERATED BY REPUBLIC AIRWAYS AS AMERICAN EAGLE
4 AA1624D 31DEC 7 DCADFW GK1 1454 1740 /E
5 AA7386D 03JAN 3 DFWMEL GK1 1910 0545 05JAN 5 /E
OPERATED BY QANTAS AIRWAYS
6 QF 432D 12JAN 5 MELSYD GK1 1000 1125 /E
7 QF 1D 12JAN 5 SYDSIN GK1 1700 2205 /E
8 QR 675D 22JAN 1 MLEDOH GK1 1945 2205 /E
9 QR 678D 23JAN 2 DOHSEZ GK1 0220 0820 /E
10 QR 679D 30JAN 2 SEZDOH GK1 1920 2320 /E
11 QR 15D 31JAN 3 DOHLHR GK1 1520 1950 /E
12 QR 4D 06FEB 2 LHRDOH GK1 1415 0005 07FEB 3 /E
WPRWSLONTLONAAAB15MAR23
PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
CAI
XCMN AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
NYC AA D 26DEC DONE6 26DEC 26DEC 02P
WAS AA D 29DEC DONE6 29DEC 29DEC 02P
DFW AA D 31DEC DONE6 31DEC 31DEC 02P
MEL AA D 03JAN DONE6 03JAN 03JAN 02P
XSYD QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
SIN QF D 12JAN DONE6 12JAN 12JAN 02P
MLE S U R F A C E
XDOH QR D 22JAN DONE6 22JAN 22JAN 02P
SEZ QR D 23JAN DONE6 23JAN 23JAN 02P
XDOH QR D 30JAN DONE6 30JAN 30JAN 02P
LON QR D 31JAN DONE6 31JAN 31JAN 02P
DOH QR D 06FEB DONE6 06FEB 06FEB 02P
CAI S U R F A C E
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4411.00
TAX GBP 10.70EG GBP 4.00XK GBP 1538.31XT
TOTAL GBP 5964.01
ADT-01 DONE6
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN//MLE
QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON QR DOH//CAI5445.54NUC5445.54
MD
END ROE30.3
XT GBP20.60QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.50MA GBP34.80US
XT GBP5.40YC GBP5.80XY GBP3.20XA GBP13.80AY GBP32.90AU
XT GBP9.00QR GBP3.60WG GBP31.50WY GBP49.50BQ GBP49.50H9
XT GBP27.20QA GBP5.50PZ GBP27.20G4 GBP41.20DW GBP191.00GB
XT GBP55.81UB GBP291.20YR GBP593.70YQ GBP0.80O9 GBP4.60R9
XT GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.40P1 GBP3.70XFDFW4.5
ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12*VALID ON ONEWORLD
ENDOS*ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL01DEC23/2359
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02673211GBP
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
ATTN*AIR EXTRAS AVAILABLE - SEE WP*AE
ATTN*BAGGAGE INFO AVAILABLE - SEE WP*BAG
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PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE EGP 165000.00 EQUIV GBP 4411.00
TAX GBP 10.70EG GBP 4.00XK GBP 1538.31XT
TOTAL GBP 5964.01
CAI AA X/CMN AA NYC AA WAS AA DFW AA MEL QF X/SYD QF SIN//MLE QR X/DOH QR SEZ QR X/DOH QR LON QR DOH//CAI5445.54NUC5445.54END ROE30.3
XT GBP20.60QH GBP1.30JK GBP1.60EQ GBP19.50MA GBP34.80US
XT GBP5.40YC GBP5.80XY GBP3.20XA GBP13.80AY GBP32.90AU
XT GBP9.00QR GBP3.60WG GBP31.50WY GBP49.50BQ GBP49.50H9
XT GBP27.20QA GBP5.50PZ GBP27.20G4 GBP41.20DW GBP191.00GB
XT GBP55.81UB GBP291.20YR GBP593.70YQ GBP0.80O9 GBP4.60R9
XT GBP0.40O2 GBP1.60S4 GBP12.40P1 GBP3.70XFDFW4.5
RATE USED 1EGP-0.02673211GBP
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN LON ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE6 EGP 5445.54 CAI-CAI AA /RT RTG RW
5445.54 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/GBP/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
291.20 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
206.20:USD 250.00 *CMN* *AA* 9592500
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
9.50:GBP 9.50 *MEL* *QF* 3525000
13.20:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
13.20:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
13.20:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
13.20:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
13.20:USD 16.00 *MLE* *QR* 10007
593.70 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
164.90:USD 200.00 *SYD* *QF* 2234995
428.80:USD 520.00 *MLE* *QR* 837
32.90 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
32.90:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
3.30 AU/QR PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC DE
3.30:AUD 5.99 *MEL* *QF* 001 367031
5.70 AU/QR2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DOMESTIC AR
5.70:AUD 10.29 *MEL* *QF* 002 96674
3.60 AU/WG SAFETY AND SECURITY CHARGE DEPARTURE
3.60:AUD 6.50 *MEL* *QF* 001 2396
17.70 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
17.70:AUD 32.16 *SYD* *QF* 001 188720
13.80 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
13.80:AUD 25.13 *DFW* *AA* 002 213295
10.70 EG/EG3 SOLIDARITY TAX
10.70:EGP 400.00 *CAI* *AA* 003 115000
1.60 EG/EQ SERVICE CHARGE
1.60:USD 2.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 20000
1.30 EG/JK DEPARTURE FEE
1.30:EGP 50.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
0.40 EG/O2 DEPARTURE SERVICE FEE
0.40:EGP 15.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 100000
0.80 EG/O9 CUTE CUPPS FEE
0.80:USD 1.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
20.60 EG/QH EMBARKATION TAX
20.60:USD 25.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 40000
1.60 EG/S4 INTERNATIONAL ADVANCED PASSENGER INF
1.60:USD 1.99 *CAI* *AA* 001 105000
4.00 EG/XK DEVELOPMENT FEE
4.00:GBP 150.00 *CAI* *AA* 001 15000
191.00 GB/GB AIR PASSENGER DUTY APD
191.00:GBP 191.00 *LHR* *QR* 001 380000
55.81 GB/UB PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
55.81:GBP 55.81 *LHR* *QR* 001 4724938
15.60 MA/MA PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE
15.60:MAD 194 *CMN* *AA* 001 44375
3.90 MA/MAC AIRPORT SECURITY TAX
3.90:MAD 48 *CMN* *AA* 012 125000
49.50 MV/BQ DEPARTURE FEE
49.50:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 19218
49.50 MV/H9 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT FEE INTERNATIONA
49.50:USD 60.00 *MLE* *QR* 001 110000
27.20 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
13.60:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
13.60:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
1.70 QA/PZ PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE DEPARTURES
1.70:USD 2.05 *DOH* *QR* 001 115000
3.80 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
1.70:USD 2.05 *LHR* *QR* 002 120000
1.70:USD 2.05 *SEZ* *QR* 002 120000
0.40:USD 0.50 *MLE* *QR* 002 110000
27.20 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
13.60:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
13.60:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
4.60 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.30:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
2.30:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
41.20 SC/DW PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGES
41.20:USD 50.00 *SEZ* *QR* 001 45000
12.40 SC/P1 DISEMBARKATION LEVY
12.40:USD 15.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 100000
13.80 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
4.60:USD 5.60 *JFK* 001 833212
4.60:USD 5.60 *DCA* 001 833212
4.60:USD 5.60 *DFW* 001 833212
34.80 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
17.40:USD 21.10 *DFW* *AA* 014 198906
17.40:USD 21.10 *CAI* *AA* 015 149453
3.20 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.20:USD 3.83 *CMN* *AA* 001 112500
5.80 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
5.80:USD 7.00 *CMN* *AA* 002 130000
5.40 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
5.40:USD 6.52 *CMN* *AA* 001 125000
3.70 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
3.70:USD 4.50 *DFW*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
30.3000000 EGP-ROE EFF 01MAR23*31MAR23
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1EGP:0.02673211GBP
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1USD:0.82468553GBP 1AUD:0.54915208GBP
1EGP:0.02673211GBP 1MAD:0.08040448GBP
1QAR:0.22646863GBP
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - NORMAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
.
GBP26.20SG
GBP6.50L7
GBP4.80OP
GBP426.10YR-GBP291.20YR=134.9
GBP856.70YQ-GBP593.70YQ=263
GBP2.60M6
GBP2.00O7
total new tax = 440GBP
Plus the 125USD change fee you have to pay, the total extra you need to pay is probably in the 5xxGBP range. I did not add DOH departure tax (since not supported by autoprice) but that should be small. The big difference seems to be the 335USD YQ from UL.
I am also a bit lost as to what old ticket you had in 09MAR?
Lastly, I'm saving the queries below so I don't have to type them again next time. If you can give me flight info in the below format, I can build the exact itinerary easily:
Code:
0AA7950D26DECCMNJFKGK1 0AA4479D29DECJFKDCAGK1 0AA1624D31DECDCADFWGK1 0AA7386D03JANDFWMELGK1 0QF432D12JANMELSYDGK1 0QF1D12JANSYDSINGK1 0UL309D14JANSINCMBGK1 0UL101D15JANCMBMLEGK1 0QR675D22JANMLEDOHGK1 0QR678D23JANDOHSEZGK1 0QR679D30JANSEZDOHGK1 0QR15D031JANDOHLHRGK1 0AA6465D01MARLHRISTGK1 0RJ168D4MARISTAMMGK1 0QR4D06FEBLHRDOHGK1
Last edited by ernestnywang; Apr 26, 2023 at 6:32 pm
Apr 26, 2023 | 6:30 pm
#1284
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
I hope someone can confirm for me - I'm pricing the surcharges on a DONE5 my husband and I want to take next year, using ITA Matrix. The surcharges listed on a Qatar ATH-DOH-SYD sector are $AUD1409. But if I do two searches - ATH-DOH, then DOH-SYD the surcharges list as $AUD379, then $AUD343 respectively still with Qatar - a saving of $AUD687/person. Is this correct? If we stay in DOH for a couple of days, will those lower surcharges stand? I'd prefer to fly Qatar business class on that long haul.
Any advice much appreciated.
Any advice much appreciated.
Apr 26, 2023 | 8:11 pm
#1285
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Programs: qantas platinum
Posts: 65
Take a look at the YQ and YR quotes separately. QR charges YR sector by sector but YQ on a "complete RTW itinerary" basis. Once you build the entire RTW (probably not possible using ITA matrix), the QR YQ will be adjusted to reflect that, thus there should be no difference in YQ/YR at the end whether DOH is stopover or transit.
. I'm hoping I've squeezed in as much travel as I could get. I hope you're right - saving $AUD700 each woulld be nice! Given the charges overall for the two of us amount to a little over $5000 any saving is nice. Thank you so much for taking the time!
Apr 26, 2023 | 8:15 pm
#1286
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Programs: qantas platinum
Posts: 65
Thanks for looking at that for me - I've planned a very full Done5 itinerary and the total taxes and surcharges amount to 25% of the base price - I'm hoping it will work out a little less....
May 1, 2023 | 4:22 am
#1287
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
I see - the YQ charges for the two separate sectors amount to $AUD520.9 whereas booked as one sector the YQ charges are a whopping $1,225. And no - I don't think I could build the entire itinerary (NRT-HNLo-SEAo-LASo-JFKo-GRUo-DOHx-CDGo-HELo-ATHo-DOHx-SYDo-NOUo-SYDo-BKK(overland)-SGNo-NRT) on ITA matrix - I tried but it wouldn't let me enter that many flights. I'm hoping I've squeezed in as much travel as I could get. I hope you're right - saving $AUD700 each woulld be nice! Given the charges overall for the two of us amount to a little over $5000 any saving is nice. Thank you so much for taking the time!
. I'm hoping I've squeezed in as much travel as I could get. I hope you're right - saving $AUD700 each woulld be nice! Given the charges overall for the two of us amount to a little over $5000 any saving is nice. Thank you so much for taking the time!Code:
WQNRT/AJL03MAY/CDHNL/AAS/CDSEA/AAS/CDLAS/AAA/CDJFK/AAA/CDGRU/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDCDG/AAY/CDHEL/AAY/CDATH/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CDNOU/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CDBKK/-SGN/AJL/CDNRT-RW/MUSD/SDFW/TDFW/VAA
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6691.00 1072.21 7763.21 ADT
02 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7311.00 1075.39 8386.39 ADT
*01,02*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01,02*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01,02*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01,02*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
*01,02*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ1
1 JLOPEND 03MAY 3 NRTHNL DS1
2 ASOPEND HNLSEA DS1
3 ASOPEND SEALAS DS1
4 AAOPEND LASJFK DS1
5 AAOPEND JFKGRU DS1
6 QROPEND GRUDOH DS1
7 QROPEND DOHCDG DS1
8 AYOPEND CDGHEL DS1
9 AYOPEND HELATH DS1
10 QROPEND ATHDOH DS1
11 QFOPEND DOHSYD DS1
12 QFOPEND SYDNOU DS1
13 QFOPEND NOUSYD DS1
14 QFOPEND SYDBKK DS1
15 ARNK
16 JLOPEND SGNNRT DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
TYO
HNL JL D 03MAY DONE5 03MAY 03MAY 02P
SEA AS D OPEN DONE5 04MAY 04MAY 02P
LAS AS D OPEN DONE5 05MAY 05MAY 02P
MD
NYC AA D OPEN DONE5 06MAY 06MAY 02P
SAO AA D OPEN DONE5 07MAY 07MAY 02P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE5 08MAY 08MAY 02P
PAR QR D OPEN DONE5 09MAY 09MAY 02P
HEL AY D OPEN DONE5 10MAY 10MAY 03P
ATH AY D OPEN DONE5 11MAY 11MAY 03P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE5 12MAY 12MAY 02P
SYD QF D OPEN DONE5 13MAY 13MAY 02P
NOU QF D OPEN DONE5 14MAY 14MAY 02P
SYD QF D OPEN DONE5 15MAY 15MAY 02P
BKK QF D OPEN DONE5 16MAY 16MAY 02P
SGN S U R F A C E
TYO JL D OPEN DONE5 18MAY 18MAY 02P
FARE JPY 895200 EQUIV USD 6691.00
TAX USD 15.90SW USD 4.00OI USD 1052.31XT
TOTAL USD 7763.21
ADT-01 DONE5
TYO JL HNL AS SEA AS LAS AA NYC AA SAO QR X/DOH QR PAR AY HEL
AY ATH QR X/DOH QF SYD QF NOU QF SYD QF BKK//SGN JL TYO6778.66
NUC6778.66END ROE132.061315 ZPHNLSEALAS
XT USD34.26US USD14.40ZP USD52.80US USD6.52YC USD7.00XY
XT USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD10.50BR USD33.00QA USD1.00PZ
XT USD33.00G4 USD38.10FR USD13.60QX USD12.40IZ USD11.50FI
MD
XT USD6.00DQ USD1.00XU USD13.20GR USD5.50WQ USD17.60WP
XT USD79.40AU USD82.80WY USD30.30NC USD0.40G8 USD1.00E7
XT USD20.00JC USD2.00C4 USD178.00YR USD291.20YQ USD5.40R9
XT USD9.90O4 USD7.50TK USD18.00XFHNL4.5SEA4.5LAS4.5JFK4.5
ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/16*VALID ON
ENDOS*ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL02MAY23/0514
RATE USED 1JPY-0.00747407USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - AA
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQDF1
WQDF1
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE JPY 895200 EQUIV USD 6691.00
TAX USD 15.90SW USD 4.00OI USD 1052.31XT
TOTAL USD 7763.21
TYO JL HNL AS SEA AS LAS AA NYC AA SAO QR X/DOH QR PAR AY HEL AY
ATH QR X/DOH QF SYD QF NOU QF SYD QF BKK//SGN JL TYO6778.66NUC6
778.66END ROE132.061315 ZPHNLSEALAS
XT USD34.26US USD14.40ZP USD52.80US USD6.52YC USD7.00XY
XT USD3.83XA USD11.20AY USD10.50BR USD33.00QA USD1.00PZ
XT USD33.00G4 USD38.10FR USD13.60QX USD12.40IZ USD11.50FI
XT USD6.00DQ USD1.00XU USD13.20GR USD5.50WQ USD17.60WP
XT USD79.40AU USD82.80WY USD30.30NC USD0.40G8 USD1.00E7
XT USD20.00JC USD2.00C4 USD178.00YR USD291.20YQ USD5.40R9
XT USD9.90O4 USD7.50TK USD18.00XFHNL4.5SEA4.5LAS4.5JFK4.5
RATE USED 1JPY-0.00747407USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN DFW ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE5 JPY 6778.66 TYO-TYO JL /RT RTG RW
6778.66 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
271.30 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
176.40:JPY 23600 *NRT* *JL* 163760
94.90:JPY 12700 *SGN* *JL* 161750
19.90 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
MD
3.60:USD 3.60 *NRT* *JL* 9040090
3.60:USD 3.60 *SGN* *JL* 9040090
12.70:JPY 1700 *CDG* *AY* 2184625
178.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
16.00:USD 16.00 *GRU* *QR* 10004
16.00:USD 16.00 *GRU* *QR* 10004
16.00:USD 16.00 *ATH* *QR* 40012
40.00:USD 40.00 *CDG* *AY* 7004500
40.00:USD 40.00 *HEL* *AY* 7004500
12.50:USD 12.50 *DOH* *QF* 3595000
12.50:USD 12.50 *DOH* *QF* 3595000
12.50:USD 12.50 *DOH* *QF* 3595000
12.50:USD 12.50 *DOH* *QF* 3595000
79.40 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
39.70:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
39.70:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
41.40 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
20.70:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *QF* 001 287500
20.70:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *QF* 001 287500
41.40 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
20.70:AUD 31.28 *NOU* *QF* 002 289375
20.70:AUD 31.28 *DOH* *QF* 002 289375
10.50 BR/BR4 EMBARKATION FEE INTERNATIONAL
MD
10.50:BRL 52.44 *GRU* *QR* 004 584980
6.00 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE
6.00:EUR 5.41 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187
11.50 FI/FI PASSENGER FEE
11.50:EUR 10.46 *HEL* *AY* 001 34343
1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE
1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000
24.10 FR/FR CIVIL AVIATION TAX DOMESTIC AND INTE
5.40:EUR 4.93 *CDG* *AY* 001 36716
18.70:EUR 16.90 *NOU* *QF* 001 19960
14.00 FR/FR7 SAFETY AND SECURITY TAX
14.00:EUR 12.70 *CDG* *AY* 007 195781
12.40 FR/IZ AIR PASSENGER SOLIDARITY TAX
12.40:EUR 11.27 *CDG* *AY* 001 37500
9.90 FR/O4 AIR PASSENGER SOLIDARITY TAX SURPLUS
9.90:EUR 9.00 *CDG* *AY* 001 130000
13.60 FR/QX PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATION
13.60:EUR 12.33 *CDG* *AY* 001 233281
13.20 GR/GR3 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT CHARGE
13.20:EUR 12.00 *ATH* *QR* 003 815000
17.60 GR/WP PASSENGER TERMINAL FACILITIES CHARGE
17.60:EUR 15.99 *ATH* *QR* 001 800000
5.50 GR/WQ PASSENGER SECURITY CHARGE
MD
5.50:EUR 5.00 *ATH* *QR* 001 20000
4.00 JP/OI PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
4.00:JPY 530 *NRT* *JL* 001 143750
15.90 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
15.90:JPY 2130 *NRT* *JL* 001 440000
7.50 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
7.50:JPY 1000 *NRT* *JL* 001 100000
30.30 NC/NC PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE
30.30:XPF 3278 *NOU* *QF* 001 32451
33.00 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 105000
1.00 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
0.50:USD 0.50 *ATH* *QR* 002 110000
0.50:USD 0.50 *GRU* *QR* 002 110000
33.00 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 25000
5.40 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 110000
1.00 TH/E72 ADVANCE PASSENGER PROCESSING USER CH
1.00:THB 35 *SYD* *QF* 002 75025
MD
0.40 TH/G82 INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL FEE
0.40:THB 15 *SYD* *QF* 002 100000
11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
5.60:USD 5.60 *HNL* 001 828212
5.60:USD 5.60 *SEA* 001 828212
34.26 US/US1 TRANSPORTATION TAX DOMESTIC NOT WHOL
1.10:USD 1.10 *HNL* *AS* 012 263750
9.23:USD 9.23 *SEA* *AS* 012 285000
23.93:USD 23.93 *LAS* *AA* 012 285000
52.80 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
10.60:USD 10.60 *HNL* *AS* 014 160546
21.10:USD 21.10 *JFK* *AA* 014 187890
21.10:USD 21.10 *NRT* *JL* 015 137890
3.83 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.83:USD 3.83 *NRT* *JL* 001 112500
7.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
7.00:USD 7.00 *NRT* *JL* 002 130000
6.52 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
6.52:USD 6.52 *NRT* *JL* 001 125000
14.40 US/ZP FLIGHT SEGMENT TAX DOMESTIC
4.80:USD 4.80 *HNL* 001 138750
4.80:USD 4.80 *SEA* 001 138750
4.80:USD 4.80 *LAS* 001 138750
MD
2.00 VN/C4 PASSENGER AND BAGGAGE SECURITY SCREE
2.00:USD 2.00 *SGN* *JL* 001 125000
20.00 VN/JC PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATION
20.00:USD 20.00 *SGN* *JL* 001 130000
18.00 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
4.50:USD 4.50 *HNL*
4.50:USD 4.50 *SEA*
4.50:USD 4.50 *LAS*
4.50:USD 4.50 *JFK*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
132.061315 JPY-ROE EFF 01MAY23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1JPY:0.00747407USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1JPY:0.00747407USD 1AUD:0.66188719USD
1BRL:0.199972USD 1EUR:1.10356694USD
1XPF:0.00924789USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD
1THB:0.02933919USD
-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
.
May 2, 2023 | 8:33 pm
#1288
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Newcastle, Australia
Programs: qantas platinum
Posts: 65
[QUOTE=ernestnywang;35215055]Not sure which airline's plate you want to put the ticket on. If AA, the total taxes look like 1072.21USD to me, based on today's exchange rate. See my post https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34947744-post1102.html for explanation.
Thanks so much for that! I did read your post for explanation but am none the wiser (the fault lies with me not your explanation) - I will take encouragement from your calculation and live in hope that the taxes will work out lower than I expect!
I had intended to book through JAL as they are our first flight - would you have any idea (without going to the bother of working it out) if they would have similarly low taxes? They are one of the lowest for taxes I think.
Also, if I book through JAL can I credit the points earned to Qantas? I'm hoping to gain status with Qantas on that run in the hope that in 2025 we can book a 35K mile Qantas Oneworld Classic itinerary. ATM Qantas is appallingly bad to try to book anything through their call centres if you have no status.
Thanks so much for that! I did read your post for explanation but am none the wiser (the fault lies with me not your explanation) - I will take encouragement from your calculation and live in hope that the taxes will work out lower than I expect!
I had intended to book through JAL as they are our first flight - would you have any idea (without going to the bother of working it out) if they would have similarly low taxes? They are one of the lowest for taxes I think.
Also, if I book through JAL can I credit the points earned to Qantas? I'm hoping to gain status with Qantas on that run in the hope that in 2025 we can book a 35K mile Qantas Oneworld Classic itinerary. ATM Qantas is appallingly bad to try to book anything through their call centres if you have no status.
May 2, 2023 | 8:55 pm
#1289
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: MEL CHC
Posts: 22,913
Do not confuse real taxes and carrier surcharges. Real taxes are the same for all airlines flying the same route/class of travel.
You can earn Qantas ff points and status credits (SC) on all Oneworld airline, subject to rules.
The QF partner earning is *very* poorly presented and hard to establish what you will get. No doubt that is deliberate.
QF has a poor FFP.
You can earn Qantas ff points and status credits (SC) on all Oneworld airline, subject to rules.
- Some partner flights can earn nil or far less than you expect
- For example D business class on many MH flights will earn as flexible economy, and not business--> " Flights booked in C, D, I , J and Z class will earn at Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines Business Class service, and flights booked in A and F class will earn at Flexible Economy Frequent Flyer Earn Category, however will receive Malaysia Airlines First Class service"
- A code share can earn more or less than the native flight.
The QF partner earning is *very* poorly presented and hard to establish what you will get. No doubt that is deliberate.
QF has a poor FFP.
Last edited by Mwenenzi; May 3, 2023 at 12:14 am
May 3, 2023 | 12:03 am
#1290
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
Programs: CX GO (=SPH), IHG Diamond Amb, Hertz 5*, Accor, Hilton, National
Posts: 7,220
Thanks so much for that! I did read your post for explanation but am none the wiser (the fault lies with me not your explanation) - I will take encouragement from your calculation and live in hope that the taxes will work out lower than I expect!
I had intended to book through JAL as they are our first flight - would you have any idea (without going to the bother of working it out) if they would have similarly low taxes? They are one of the lowest for taxes I think.
I had intended to book through JAL as they are our first flight - would you have any idea (without going to the bother of working it out) if they would have similarly low taxes? They are one of the lowest for taxes I think.
Code:
WQNRT/AJL05MAY/CDHNL/AAS/CDSEA/AAS/CDLAS/AAA/CDJFK/AAA/CDGRU/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQR/CDCDG/AAY/CDHEL/AAY/CDATH/AQR/CD/XDOH/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CDNOU/AQF/CDSYD/AQF/CDBKK/-SGN/AJL/CDNRT-RW/MUSD/VJL
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE BASIS BOOK CODE FARE TAX/FEES/CHGS TOTAL
01 DONE5 D/D/D/D/* USD 6533.00 904.85 7437.85 ADT
02 DONE6 D/D/D/D/* USD 7138.00 904.85 8042.85 ADT
*01,02*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
*01,02*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED
*01,02*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED
*01,02*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY
*01,02*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY
ATTN*SEE OTHER FARES - USE XM QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-XM
ATTN*SEE ALL FARES - USE AL QUALIFIER, E.G. WQCTY/ACRCTY-AL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
.
WQ1
1 JLOPEND 05MAY 5 NRTHNL DS1
2 ASOPEND HNLSEA DS1
3 ASOPEND SEALAS DS1
4 AAOPEND LASJFK DS1
5 AAOPEND JFKGRU DS1
6 QROPEND GRUDOH DS1
7 QROPEND DOHCDG DS1
8 AYOPEND CDGHEL DS1
9 AYOPEND HELATH DS1
10 QROPEND ATHDOH DS1
11 QFOPEND DOHSYD DS1
12 QFOPEND SYDNOU DS1
13 QFOPEND NOUSYD DS1
14 QFOPEND SYDBKK DS1
15 ARNK
16 JLOPEND SGNNRT DS1
PSGR TYPE ADT - 01
CXR RES DATE FARE BASIS NVB NVA BG
TYO
HNL JL D 05MAY DONE5 05MAY 05MAY 02P
SEA AS D OPEN DONE5 06MAY 06MAY 02P
LAS AS D OPEN DONE5 07MAY 07MAY 02P
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NYC AA D OPEN DONE5 08MAY 08MAY 02P
SAO AA D OPEN DONE5 09MAY 09MAY 02P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE5 10MAY 10MAY 02P
PAR QR D OPEN DONE5 11MAY 11MAY 02P
HEL AY D OPEN DONE5 12MAY 12MAY 03P
ATH AY D OPEN DONE5 13MAY 13MAY 03P
XDOH QR D OPEN DONE5 14MAY 14MAY 02P
SYD QF D OPEN DONE5 15MAY 15MAY 02P
NOU QF D OPEN DONE5 16MAY 16MAY 02P
SYD QF D OPEN DONE5 17MAY 17MAY 02P
BKK QF D OPEN DONE5 18MAY 18MAY 02P
SGN S U R F A C E
TYO JL D OPEN DONE5 20MAY 20MAY 02P
FARE JPY 895200 EQUIV USD 6533.00
TAX USD 15.50SW USD 3.90OI USD 885.45XT
TOTAL USD 7437.85
ADT-01 DONE5
TYO JL HNL AS SEA AS LAS AA NYC AA SAO QR X/DOH QR PAR AY HEL
AY ATH QR X/DOH QF SYD QF NOU QF SYD QF BKK//SGN JL TYO6778.66
NUC6778.66END ROE132.061315
XT USD52.80US USD6.52YC USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY
XT USD10.40BR USD33.00QA USD1.00PZ USD33.00G4 USD38.00FR
XT USD13.60QX USD12.40IZ USD11.50FI USD5.90DQ USD1.00XU
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XT USD13.20GR USD5.50WQ USD17.60WP USD79.60AU USD83.20WY
XT USD30.20NC USD0.40G8 USD1.00E7 USD20.00JC USD2.00C4
XT USD80.00YR USD284.50YQ USD7.30TK USD9.90O4 USD5.40R9
XT USD4.50XFJFK4.5
ENDOS*SEG0/1/2/3/4/5/6/7/8/9/10/11/12/13/14/16*VALID ON
ENDOS*ONEWORLD ONLY/NONREF
TKT/TL04MAY23/1359
RATE USED 1JPY-0.0072973USD
ATTN*FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*ADV RES/TICKETING REQUIRED SEG 1-16
ATTN*CONFIRMED RES REQUIRED SEG 1
ATTN*MIN/MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*PAYMENT/TKT RESTRICTIONS APPLY SEG 1-16
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER SPECIFIED - JL
** TOTALS INCLUDE KNOWN TAXES AND FEES **
** TOTAL FARE, TAXES AND FEES MAY CHANGE ONCE FLIGHTS ARE
CONFIRMED **
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WQDF1
WQDF1
PSGR TYPE ADT
FARE JPY 895200 EQUIV USD 6533.00
TAX USD 15.50SW USD 3.90OI USD 885.45XT
TOTAL USD 7437.85
TYO JL HNL AS SEA AS LAS AA NYC AA SAO QR X/DOH QR PAR AY HEL AY
ATH QR X/DOH QF SYD QF NOU QF SYD QF BKK//SGN JL TYO6778.66NUC6
778.66END ROE132.061315
XT USD52.80US USD6.52YC USD7.00XY USD3.83XA USD11.20AY
XT USD10.40BR USD33.00QA USD1.00PZ USD33.00G4 USD38.00FR
XT USD13.60QX USD12.40IZ USD11.50FI USD5.90DQ USD1.00XU
XT USD13.20GR USD5.50WQ USD17.60WP USD79.60AU USD83.20WY
XT USD30.20NC USD0.40G8 USD1.00E7 USD20.00JC USD2.00C4
XT USD80.00YR USD284.50YQ USD7.30TK USD9.90O4 USD5.40R9
XT USD4.50XFJFK4.5
RATE USED 1JPY-0.0072973USD
/////////////// TRAFFIC DOCUMENT ISSUED IN RMQ ///////////////
PU -FARE BASIS-CUR NUC AMT ELEMENT DESCRIPTION ----------- GI
01 DONE5 JPY 6778.66 TYO-TYO JL /RT RTG RW
6778.66 - TOTAL NUC
-TAX AMT/USD/-- CUR CODES DESCRIPTION-----TAX TYPE/SEQUENCE--
264.90 /YQF SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED FUEL
172.20:JPY 23600 *NRT* *JL* 163760
92.70:JPY 12700 *SGN* *JL* 161750
19.60 /YQI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
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3.60:USD 3.60 *NRT* *JL* 9040090
3.60:USD 3.60 *SGN* *JL* 9040090
12.40:JPY 1700 *CDG* *AY* 2184625
80.00 /YRI SERVICE FEE - CARRIER-IMPOSED MISC
40.00:USD 40.00 *CDG* *AY* 7004500
40.00:USD 40.00 *HEL* *AY* 7004500
79.60 AU/AU PASSENGER MOVEMENT CHARGE PMC
39.80:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
39.80:AUD 60.00 *SYD* *QF* 001 21250
41.60 AU/WY PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE DEPARTURE
20.80:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *QF* 001 287500
20.80:AUD 31.28 *SYD* *QF* 001 287500
41.60 AU/WY2 PASSENGER SERVICES CHARGE ARRIVAL IN
20.80:AUD 31.28 *NOU* *QF* 002 289375
20.80:AUD 31.28 *DOH* *QF* 002 289375
10.40 BR/BR4 EMBARKATION FEE INTERNATIONAL
10.40:BRL 52.44 *GRU* *QR* 004 584980
5.90 FI/DQ SECURITY CHARGE
5.90:EUR 5.41 *HEL* *AY* 001 37187
11.50 FI/FI PASSENGER FEE
11.50:EUR 10.46 *HEL* *AY* 001 34343
1.00 FI/XU AIR TRANSPORT SUPERVISION CHARGE
1.00:EUR 0.90 *HEL* *AY* 001 120000
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24.00 FR/FR CIVIL AVIATION TAX DOMESTIC AND INTE
5.40:EUR 4.93 *CDG* *AY* 001 36716
18.60:EUR 16.90 *NOU* *QF* 001 19960
14.00 FR/FR7 SAFETY AND SECURITY TAX
14.00:EUR 12.70 *CDG* *AY* 007 195781
12.40 FR/IZ AIR PASSENGER SOLIDARITY TAX
12.40:EUR 11.27 *CDG* *AY* 001 37500
9.90 FR/O4 AIR PASSENGER SOLIDARITY TAX SURPLUS
9.90:EUR 9.00 *CDG* *AY* 001 130000
13.60 FR/QX PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATION
13.60:EUR 12.33 *CDG* *AY* 001 233281
13.20 GR/GR3 AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT CHARGE
13.20:EUR 12.00 *ATH* *QR* 003 815000
17.60 GR/WP PASSENGER TERMINAL FACILITIES CHARGE
17.60:EUR 15.99 *ATH* *QR* 001 800000
5.50 GR/WQ PASSENGER SECURITY CHARGE
5.50:EUR 5.00 *ATH* *QR* 001 20000
3.90 JP/OI PASSENGER SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE
3.90:JPY 530 *NRT* *JL* 001 143750
15.50 JP/SW PASSENGER SERVICE FACILITIES CHARGE
15.50:JPY 2130 *NRT* *JL* 001 440000
7.30 JP/TK INTERNATIONAL TOURIST TAX
7.30:JPY 1000 *NRT* *JL* 001 100000
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30.20 NC/NC PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE
30.20:XPF 3278 *NOU* *QF* 001 32451
33.00 QA/G4 PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE PFC
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 105000
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 105000
1.00 QA/PZ2 PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE ARRIVALS
0.50:USD 0.50 *ATH* *QR* 002 110000
0.50:USD 0.50 *GRU* *QR* 002 110000
33.00 QA/QA AIRPORT FEE INTERNATIONAL
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 25000
16.50:QAR 60.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 25000
5.40 QA/R9 PASSENGER SAFETY AND SECURITY FEE PS
2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QR* 001 110000
2.70:QAR 10.00 *DOH* *QF* 001 110000
1.00 TH/E72 ADVANCE PASSENGER PROCESSING USER CH
1.00:THB 35 *SYD* *QF* 002 75025
0.40 TH/G82 INTERNATIONAL ARRIVAL FEE
0.40:THB 15 *SYD* *QF* 002 100000
11.20 US/AY PASSENGER CIVIL AVIATION SECURITY SE
5.60:USD 5.60 *HNL* 001 828212
5.60:USD 5.60 *SEA* 001 828212
52.80 US/US2 TRANSPORTATION TAX INTERNATIONAL DEP
10.60:USD 10.60 *HNL* *AS* 014 160546
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21.10:USD 21.10 *JFK* *AA* 014 198906
21.10:USD 21.10 *NRT* *JL* 015 149453
3.83 US/XA APHIS PASSENGER FEE PASSENGERS
3.83:USD 3.83 *NRT* *JL* 001 112500
7.00 US/XY2 IMMIGRATION USER FEE
7.00:USD 7.00 *NRT* *JL* 002 130000
6.52 US/YC CUSTOMS USER FEE
6.52:USD 6.52 *NRT* *JL* 001 125000
2.00 VN/C4 PASSENGER AND BAGGAGE SECURITY SCREE
2.00:USD 2.00 *SGN* *JL* 001 125000
20.00 VN/JC PASSENGER SERVICE CHARGE INTERNATION
20.00:USD 20.00 *SGN* *JL* 001 130000
4.50 US/XF PASSENGER FACILITY CHARGE
4.50:USD 4.50 *JFK*
-IATA RATES OF EXCHANGE USED IN FARE CALCULATION --------------
132.061315 JPY-ROE EFF 01MAY23*INDEF
-BSR USED IN FARE CALCULATION ---------------------------------
1JPY:0.0072973USD
-BSR USED IN TAX CALCULATION ----------------------------------
1JPY:0.0072973USD 1AUD:0.66351169USD
1BRL:0.19867287USD 1EUR:1.09938718USD
1XPF:0.00921287USD 1QAR:0.27461211USD
1THB:0.02926821USD
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-PRICING UNIT TRIP TYPE ---------------------------------------
PU 01 - SPECIAL RW SINGLE FARE COMPONENT
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Yes, just give JL your QF FF number and ask JL to enter it to all airlines (not just JL itself).