Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#2776
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Join Date: Apr 2001
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In oneworld flights earn to a ffp based on the marketing flight (flight number) with an eligible operating carrier.
#2777



Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: NYC/SIN
Programs: CX DM, SQ KF
Posts: 2,344
CX gave me no pushback when I changed the ticketed points to DFW-DOH (AA code) + DOH-AGP (IB code). AA/IB had D inventory, while QR did not. It had initially been DFW-DOH-MAD on prime QR codes on a placeholder date.
#2778




Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London, UK
Programs: AY Platinum (BA refugee), AA liftime gold
Posts: 692
Individual flights of a RTW can credit to different FFP's. But getting different ffn's for each segment in the reservation and having them stick is another question. Some times changing ffn's stick and other times not. A boarding pass can have a ffn printed on it, but at times will still credit to another airline ffp/ffn. All very problematic - random. A good travel agent can help.
Asking for all FFNs to be removed then the one you want to be added seems (in my limited experience) to help. Certainly you can have 2+ FFNs on a ticket which obviously increases risks it won't credit where you wanted. As noted, what's on the boarding pass isn't always where it will credit, though having the boarding pass show the FFN you want the flight to credit to seems smart if the effort to fix issues later seems worthwhile. Eg aadvantage customer care were willing to decredit an aa flight for me which should have gone to ay.
#2779




Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bath, UK
Programs: Free as a bird
Posts: 1,049
Good day all. It's been a while since I last did a OW RTW and wonder if those is the know can just advise if this DONE4 would be valid.
OSL-LHRx-PDL-LHR-JNB-DOHx-YYZ-HKG-HAN-NRT-TPE-NRT-DOHx-OSL - I'm aware I'm losing out on 3 segments but sadly there is nothing else in North America that I can do, other than maybe an open-jaw in Canada, without entering the USA.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
OSL-LHRx-PDL-LHR-JNB-DOHx-YYZ-HKG-HAN-NRT-TPE-NRT-DOHx-OSL - I'm aware I'm losing out on 3 segments but sadly there is nothing else in North America that I can do, other than maybe an open-jaw in Canada, without entering the USA.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
#2781



Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,700
Its not the perfect thread for it but my sabre quotes are auto-pricing as GLOBs not ONEs. If it doesnt meet global rules it fails with now fare quote found.
anyone able to help out with a command to force XONEX pricing in sabre? Thank you!
anyone able to help out with a command to force XONEX pricing in sabre? Thank you!
#2782
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What is the ONE route?
#2783



Join Date: Sep 2009
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It's happening on any route i try, i've never managed to price a ONE fare, it will only price GLOBs.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.
If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.
If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.
#2784




Join Date: May 2009
Location: Bath, UK
Programs: Free as a bird
Posts: 1,049
It's happening on any route i try, i've never managed to price a ONE fare, it will only price GLOBs.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.
If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.
Even a simple NRT-SIN-SYD-LAX-JFK-NRT all on OW carriers will price as a glob. I'm very new to sabre, and am just using WPRW(YEN)AJL or whichever carrier.
I suspect there is a better command to use to try to force ONE pricing but am not certain.
If I create a route that satisfies ONE but not GLOB rules (i.e. too long) pricing just fails again.
#2785



Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,700
Ok, if I may ask the experienced minds here to check the itinerary for me, this is my target. It won't autoprice but I think it meets all the rules except it's 5 segments in asia (2 get two of three A/F flights that are offered)
HND-SIN-KUL-PKX(PEK)-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK(LGA)-DFW-LHR-DOH-NRT
I've put in brackets where we depart from a different airport but in the same city. Specific flights below
HND - TOKYO HANEDA
JAPAN AIRLINES, JL 37
SIN - SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 616
KUL - KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 318
PKX - BEIJING DAXING, CHINA
PEK - BEIJING, CHINA
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 391
HKG - HONG KONG, HONG KONG S A R
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 171
PER - PERTH, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 770
MEL - MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 622
BNE - BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 551
SYD - SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 11
LAX - LOS ANGELES, CA
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 4
JFK - NEW YORK JFK, NY
LGA - NEW YORK LGA, NY
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 1626
DFW - DALLAS FT WORTH, TX
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 80
LHR - LONDON HEATHROW, UNITED KINGDOM
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 4
DOH - DOHA HAMAD INTL, QATAR
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 806
NRT - TOKYO NARITA, JAPAN
Any thoughts welcome!
HND-SIN-KUL-PKX(PEK)-HKG-PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK(LGA)-DFW-LHR-DOH-NRT
I've put in brackets where we depart from a different airport but in the same city. Specific flights below
HND - TOKYO HANEDA
JAPAN AIRLINES, JL 37
SIN - SINGAPORE, SINGAPORE
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 616
KUL - KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
MALAYSIA AIRLINES, MH 318
PKX - BEIJING DAXING, CHINA
PEK - BEIJING, CHINA
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 391
HKG - HONG KONG, HONG KONG S A R
CATHAY PACIFIC AIRWAYS, CX 171
PER - PERTH, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 770
MEL - MELBOURNE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 622
BNE - BRISBANE, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 551
SYD - SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA
QANTAS AIRWAYS, QF 11
LAX - LOS ANGELES, CA
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 4
JFK - NEW YORK JFK, NY
LGA - NEW YORK LGA, NY
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 1626
DFW - DALLAS FT WORTH, TX
AMERICAN AIRLINES, AA 80
LHR - LONDON HEATHROW, UNITED KINGDOM
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 4
DOH - DOHA HAMAD INTL, QATAR
QATAR AIRWAYS, QR 806
NRT - TOKYO NARITA, JAPAN
Any thoughts welcome!
Last edited by Cynicor; Apr 4, 2025 at 6:38 am
#2787



Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,700
My understanding of the rules is that you can have more segments for additional cost as long as the total is fewer than 16. Also that different airports in the same city didnt count as a surface sector.
are either of those incorrect?
Oh yeah, just a typo missing dfw.
are either of those incorrect?
Oh yeah, just a typo missing dfw.
#2788
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Okay I think I see what you mean.
The per continent maximum is flight segments but land segments do count towards the 16.
Different airports in the same city count as land segments.
Are these all stopovers? If not, which are the connecting flights?
The per continent maximum is flight segments but land segments do count towards the 16.
Different airports in the same city count as land segments.
Are these all stopovers? If not, which are the connecting flights?
Last edited by izzik; Apr 4, 2025 at 6:48 am
#2790



Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,700
HND-SIN-HKG
HKG-PER
PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK
JFK-DFW-LHR
LHR-DOH-NRT
Hope that is clearer. Cities are grouped with transits <24 hours, each line has any stop of 24 hours or more.
Removed the extra flights so now it should meet all the rules without needing to worry about exceptions.
Thank you!
HKG-PER
PER-MEL-BNE-SYD-LAX-JFK
JFK-DFW-LHR
LHR-DOH-NRT
Hope that is clearer. Cities are grouped with transits <24 hours, each line has any stop of 24 hours or more.
Removed the extra flights so now it should meet all the rules without needing to worry about exceptions.
Thank you!



