Oneworld booking and pricing experiences
#1126



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
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I believe airlines are allowed to file fares in a different currency if they want to. I did a random search on CZ fares from CAI to CAN, and the cheapest fare is filed in AED.
#1127




Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 294
Validating carrier QR yields the lowest amount, as only QR, BA, and MH YQ/YR are collected. Please note though I have heard from another FTer that at least one of the QR offices calculates segment by segment manually, resulting in a much higher amount. YMMV, perhaps with a different QR office.
Many thanks for this - much appreciated. I have only ever booked a RTW with BA (directly). Would I just call QR or is it best via a TA ? I've seen lots of comments about poor QR call centre customer service.
#1128




Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 278
I suspect in your case I'd try QR locally, and if that doesn't work then QR in Qatar (assuming the outstation has a different call centre, for some airlines this is the case and for some it just routes to the nightshift in the centre).
If your journey uses AA on one of the over-ocean legs you can also get great service from AA's specialist RTW desk.
Last edited by LeSouris; Feb 13, 2023 at 3:19 am
#1129



Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: TPE / HSZ
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You are welcome. In my experience, a TA can only issue an RTW using QR plate if QR has the first inter-TC segment (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME-Asia/Aus), so the autoprice default to QR as the validating carrier. You can try asking a different TA, or reverse the routing if possible.
#1130

Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 15
Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely, so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only)
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only)
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
#1131




Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
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Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely, so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only)
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only)
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
#1132




Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 278
You may also be hitting some availability constraints on those sectors. HKG and SYD have some bottlenecks at the moment as we found on our booking. I usually take a subscription to Expertflyer for a month or two while I'm setting up an RTW, and use it to check for D class (or whatever you are flying in) on specific flights before asking the tool to price the route and again before calling to book.
#1133




Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
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You are welcome. In my experience, a TA can only issue an RTW using QR plate if QR has the first inter-TC segment (TPAC, TATL, or Europe/ME-Asia/Aus), so the autoprice default to QR as the validating carrier. You can try asking a different TA, or reverse the routing if possible.
#1134




Join Date: Aug 2004
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I agree with @SPO, except that I have an annual subscription to Expert Flyer, as I use it all the time. I would not rely on the online tool to verify if a routing is correct, as it is often wrong. I verify the routing against the rules myself, manually, then use Expert Flyer to identify the flights I want and verify availability in the appropriate booking inventory.
#1135



Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: used to be PER, now it's nowhere/eveywhere
Programs: QFF NB, AA GLD
Posts: 3,687
Hi - I'm trying to use the tool to check if my itinerary is valid or not, but it's insisting that there isn't a single OW flight between Sydney and Thailand/Malaysia or Singapore which seems *quite* unlikely,
The tool is very buggy, and this is one of the known bugs - there is a thread discussing the bugs xONEx online tool bugs thread - FlyerTalk Forums
so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:
Your itinerary looks fine
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only) - doesn't need to be, can be a stopover if you want it
Your second visit to Asia is allowed (the rule is two visits are allowed "when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East", which your LHR-SIN-MEL routing satisfies
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
In South-West Pacific - you are using three (MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD) of the allowed four flight segments
In Asia - you are again using three (SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX) of the allowed four flight segments, but I don't think there is a direct Oneworld flight between SIN and HKT, so you will need to use an extra segment (e.g. SIN-KUL-HKT) - still not exceeding the four allowed flight segments
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
The tool is very buggy, and this is one of the known bugs - there is a thread discussing the bugs xONEx online tool bugs thread - FlyerTalk Forums
so I thought I'd check here if this looks like a valid itinerary or if there are issues with it that I might not have spotted:
Your itinerary looks fine
OSL-LHR-SIN-MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD-SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX-LAX-BOS-LHR-OSL
(first SIN stop transit only) - doesn't need to be, can be a stopover if you want it
Your second visit to Asia is allowed (the rule is two visits are allowed "when one is for travel between the Southwest Pacific and Europe/Middle East", which your LHR-SIN-MEL routing satisfies
I'm within the 16 legs, but not sure if I have too many flights in Asia and Australia
In South-West Pacific - you are using three (MEL-SYD-NOU-SYD) of the allowed four flight segments
In Asia - you are again using three (SIN-HKT-HKG-KIX) of the allowed four flight segments, but I don't think there is a direct Oneworld flight between SIN and HKT, so you will need to use an extra segment (e.g. SIN-KUL-HKT) - still not exceeding the four allowed flight segments
Hoping I can use my BA vouchers to bring the pricing down even further!
If you are wanting to see more of Australia, you can change one of your SYD visits to BNE. If you have an unused segment, then you can add PER between SIN and MEL
The wiki to the The Oneworld Explorer User Guide - FlyerTalk Forums might give you more ideas
#1137
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#1139




Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: London; Bangkok; Las Vegas
Programs: AA Exec Plat; UA MM Gold; Marriott Lifetime Titanium; Hilton Diamond
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My primary question is where do I actually book a DONE3 starting in Cairo? The on-line itinerary builder on oneworld is useless.
First two segments would be on QR.
General planned itinerary is:
CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI
Any hiccups on that itinerary?
Thx.
First two segments would be on QR.
General planned itinerary is:
CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI
Any hiccups on that itinerary?
Thx.
#1140
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
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My primary question is where do I actually book a DONE3 starting in Cairo? The on-line itinerary builder on oneworld is useless.
First two segments would be on QR.
General planned itinerary is:
CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI
Any hiccups on that itinerary?
Thx.
First two segments would be on QR.
General planned itinerary is:
CAI-xDOH-xLAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL-oTYO-oBKK-xHKG-oLHR-oCAI
Any hiccups on that itinerary?
Thx.
LAX-oLAS-xLAX-oJFK-xDFW-oLAS-xDFW-oHNL



