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Feb 26, 2023 | 5:54 am
#1172
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: DCA, EGE, IAD
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Feb 26, 2023 | 9:38 am
#1173
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 632
Does anyone have any recent experience how AA flights are credited. By milage or cost of segment ? The last one I did in 2017/18 the AA segments I flew were by milage and the ticketing was done by QR. But even back then some folks reported it was by cost of the segment. Kind of luck of the draw.
Feb 26, 2023 | 11:55 am
#1174
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
Programs: AS 75K;BA Silver;AA G;HH Dia;HY Glob
Posts: 16,677
Does anyone have any recent experience how AA flights are credited. By milage or cost of segment ? The last one I did in 2017/18 the AA segments I flew were by milage and the ticketing was done by QR. But even back then some folks reported it was by cost of the segment. Kind of luck of the draw.
Now to reply to your question there has been some recent discussion regarding AA crediting in this thread:
[NEWBIE LOUNGE] Ask Your Questions Here (flame free)
Start at the last page.
Last edited by jerry a. laska; Feb 26, 2023 at 12:05 pm
Feb 26, 2023 | 7:13 pm
#1175
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: MEX
Posts: 1,030
Scratched my original reservation and tried to call in again to make a new one (I'm currently in Europe)
The agent that picked up refused to help me because the first flight is not operated by AA...tried HUCA'ing 3 times and kept getting her
The agent that picked up refused to help me because the first flight is not operated by AA...tried HUCA'ing 3 times and kept getting her
I called in and Janet helped me set it up.
Looks like a stopover is allowed on the way out and in. DONE4. Itinerary was placed on hold successfully like this:
CAI-DOH-MAD-EZE-JFK-MEX-LAX-ANC-DFW-ICN-HKG-SIN-HND-BKK-HEL-CDG-DOH
MAD and CDG are both stopovers of +24hr.
Now to figure out what the hit will be in taxes and surcharges.
Looks like a stopover is allowed on the way out and in. DONE4. Itinerary was placed on hold successfully like this:
CAI-DOH-MAD-EZE-JFK-MEX-LAX-ANC-DFW-ICN-HKG-SIN-HND-BKK-HEL-CDG-DOH
MAD and CDG are both stopovers of +24hr.
Now to figure out what the hit will be in taxes and surcharges.
Feb 27, 2023 | 4:30 pm
#1176
Join Date: May 2006
Location: SAN
Programs: Lots of faux metal
Posts: 7,017
Does anyone have any recent experience how AA flights are credited. By milage or cost of segment ? The last one I did in 2017/18 the AA segments I flew were by milage and the ticketing was done by QR. But even back then some folks reported it was by cost of the segment. Kind of luck of the draw.
Feb 27, 2023 | 8:28 pm
#1177
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: land of aahhhhs (ICT)
Programs: EXP LTPlat 2MM
Posts: 530
Does anyone have any recent experience how AA flights are credited. By milage or cost of segment ? The last one I did in 2017/18 the AA segments I flew were by milage and the ticketing was done by QR. But even back then some folks reported it was by cost of the segment. Kind of luck of the draw.
Feb 28, 2023 | 5:11 am
#1178
Join Date: Nov 2022
Posts: 46
RTW planning - who will ticket it?
Not sure whether to put this in the newbie forum or in here, but hopefully people with experience here can steer me right. Sorry if it's a bit long-winded and sorry if my lingo isn't spot on. This is based on my wife and I taking a year off work and travelling for leisure.
I have a proposed RTW route that I've been working on for the last while, as follows: CAI-xLHR-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN-xSYD-AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM.
This is based on ex Cairo tickets still being good value when I want to book in a couple of months, as DONE5 is very little more expensive than DONE4. If something changes there, I'll probably leave SCL off the ticket and just go to CUN (and then do all of South America on my own), so as to only need a DONE4 ticket.
I have come to the conclusion that BA Exec Club is the best loyalty program for us (currently don't have any status or miles with any airlines), particularly since I'm based in Ireland and their relationship with Aer Lingus. I can get to bronze status very quickly (after a few flights) and silver not that long after if I make sure to hit the eligible flights. I understand generally that BA tend to be one of the worst for adding surcharges, but that they can also be applied on other flights too. So probably best to avoid having them ticket the RTW if possible. I also understand that AA have a dedicated RTW desk that would generally accepted to be the best for dealing with set up, questions, changes, issues, etc.
What are the chances that AA would ticket the above RTW for me? There wouldn't be any overwater flights on AA based on this - just South America to North America and a few internal North America flights. If they insist on having an overwater segment, I had looked at an alternative as follows (with the LHR-DFW flight being AA codeshare on BA metal, so as to satisfy both having an eligible flight for BA status purposes, and an AA overwater flight so they will ticket it): CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
I believe both options are valid itineraries. I can tweak this as we investigate other places to go and it's up for debate of course, but generally speaking this is the routing we largely want to follow to make the most of weather, etc. in the different areas (South America - North America - South Pacific - Asia - Middle East). The HNL-HND-SYD is purely in place because it looks like torture to try find D fare direct HNL-SYD flights. We have been to Tokyo before so wouldn't mind leaving it out. I also know that I could save a segment on the original itinerary by doing SYD-NAN and then surface to AKL, same as the alternative itinerary.
Would generally appreciate any feedback on the routing, but particularly in relation to who I should get to ticket the flight. Thanks.
I have a proposed RTW route that I've been working on for the last while, as follows: CAI-xLHR-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN-xSYD-AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM.
This is based on ex Cairo tickets still being good value when I want to book in a couple of months, as DONE5 is very little more expensive than DONE4. If something changes there, I'll probably leave SCL off the ticket and just go to CUN (and then do all of South America on my own), so as to only need a DONE4 ticket.
I have come to the conclusion that BA Exec Club is the best loyalty program for us (currently don't have any status or miles with any airlines), particularly since I'm based in Ireland and their relationship with Aer Lingus. I can get to bronze status very quickly (after a few flights) and silver not that long after if I make sure to hit the eligible flights. I understand generally that BA tend to be one of the worst for adding surcharges, but that they can also be applied on other flights too. So probably best to avoid having them ticket the RTW if possible. I also understand that AA have a dedicated RTW desk that would generally accepted to be the best for dealing with set up, questions, changes, issues, etc.
What are the chances that AA would ticket the above RTW for me? There wouldn't be any overwater flights on AA based on this - just South America to North America and a few internal North America flights. If they insist on having an overwater segment, I had looked at an alternative as follows (with the LHR-DFW flight being AA codeshare on BA metal, so as to satisfy both having an eligible flight for BA status purposes, and an AA overwater flight so they will ticket it): CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
I believe both options are valid itineraries. I can tweak this as we investigate other places to go and it's up for debate of course, but generally speaking this is the routing we largely want to follow to make the most of weather, etc. in the different areas (South America - North America - South Pacific - Asia - Middle East). The HNL-HND-SYD is purely in place because it looks like torture to try find D fare direct HNL-SYD flights. We have been to Tokyo before so wouldn't mind leaving it out. I also know that I could save a segment on the original itinerary by doing SYD-NAN and then surface to AKL, same as the alternative itinerary.
Would generally appreciate any feedback on the routing, but particularly in relation to who I should get to ticket the flight. Thanks.
Feb 28, 2023 | 7:44 pm
#1179
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
Not sure whether to put this in the newbie forum or in here, but hopefully people with experience here can steer me right. Sorry if it's a bit long-winded and sorry if my lingo isn't spot on. This is based on my wife and I taking a year off work and travelling for leisure.
I have a proposed RTW route that I've been working on for the last while, as follows: CAI-xLHR-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN-xSYD-AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM.
This is based on ex Cairo tickets still being good value when I want to book in a couple of months, as DONE5 is very little more expensive than DONE4. If something changes there, I'll probably leave SCL off the ticket and just go to CUN (and then do all of South America on my own), so as to only need a DONE4 ticket.
I have come to the conclusion that BA Exec Club is the best loyalty program for us (currently don't have any status or miles with any airlines), particularly since I'm based in Ireland and their relationship with Aer Lingus. I can get to bronze status very quickly (after a few flights) and silver not that long after if I make sure to hit the eligible flights. I understand generally that BA tend to be one of the worst for adding surcharges, but that they can also be applied on other flights too. So probably best to avoid having them ticket the RTW if possible. I also understand that AA have a dedicated RTW desk that would generally accepted to be the best for dealing with set up, questions, changes, issues, etc.
What are the chances that AA would ticket the above RTW for me? There wouldn't be any overwater flights on AA based on this - just South America to North America and a few internal North America flights. If they insist on having an overwater segment, I had looked at an alternative as follows (with the LHR-DFW flight being AA codeshare on BA metal, so as to satisfy both having an eligible flight for BA status purposes, and an AA overwater flight so they will ticket it): CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
I believe both options are valid itineraries. I can tweak this as we investigate other places to go and it's up for debate of course, but generally speaking this is the routing we largely want to follow to make the most of weather, etc. in the different areas (South America - North America - South Pacific - Asia - Middle East). The HNL-HND-SYD is purely in place because it looks like torture to try find D fare direct HNL-SYD flights. We have been to Tokyo before so wouldn't mind leaving it out. I also know that I could save a segment on the original itinerary by doing SYD-NAN and then surface to AKL, same as the alternative itinerary.
Would generally appreciate any feedback on the routing, but particularly in relation to who I should get to ticket the flight. Thanks.
I have a proposed RTW route that I've been working on for the last while, as follows: CAI-xLHR-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN-xSYD-AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM.
This is based on ex Cairo tickets still being good value when I want to book in a couple of months, as DONE5 is very little more expensive than DONE4. If something changes there, I'll probably leave SCL off the ticket and just go to CUN (and then do all of South America on my own), so as to only need a DONE4 ticket.
I have come to the conclusion that BA Exec Club is the best loyalty program for us (currently don't have any status or miles with any airlines), particularly since I'm based in Ireland and their relationship with Aer Lingus. I can get to bronze status very quickly (after a few flights) and silver not that long after if I make sure to hit the eligible flights. I understand generally that BA tend to be one of the worst for adding surcharges, but that they can also be applied on other flights too. So probably best to avoid having them ticket the RTW if possible. I also understand that AA have a dedicated RTW desk that would generally accepted to be the best for dealing with set up, questions, changes, issues, etc.
What are the chances that AA would ticket the above RTW for me? There wouldn't be any overwater flights on AA based on this - just South America to North America and a few internal North America flights. If they insist on having an overwater segment, I had looked at an alternative as follows (with the LHR-DFW flight being AA codeshare on BA metal, so as to satisfy both having an eligible flight for BA status purposes, and an AA overwater flight so they will ticket it): CAI-xLHR-xDFW-SCL-xDFW-CUN-ORD-ANC-HNL-HND-SYD-NAN, AKL-KUL-DEL-xDOH-AMM
I believe both options are valid itineraries. I can tweak this as we investigate other places to go and it's up for debate of course, but generally speaking this is the routing we largely want to follow to make the most of weather, etc. in the different areas (South America - North America - South Pacific - Asia - Middle East). The HNL-HND-SYD is purely in place because it looks like torture to try find D fare direct HNL-SYD flights. We have been to Tokyo before so wouldn't mind leaving it out. I also know that I could save a segment on the original itinerary by doing SYD-NAN and then surface to AKL, same as the alternative itinerary.
Would generally appreciate any feedback on the routing, but particularly in relation to who I should get to ticket the flight. Thanks.
Feb 28, 2023 | 10:56 pm
#1180
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: land of aahhhhs (ICT)
Programs: EXP LTPlat 2MM
Posts: 530
Booking and pricing DONE3 from CAI
Yes, it can happen! AA's RTW desk was a pleasure to work with. I wish I had asked for the agent's name. She thanked me for doing my homework and kiddingly asked if I'd like to work for the RTW dept. After verifying all flights, fixing a couple glitches, she told me to hold while she pulled up the base fare and expressed surprise at the ~$4200 cost. "No wonder you are starting in Cairo." Brace yourself though, taxes and fees, mostly taxes, were a surprise. I was expecting 10-15%. I've attached the details here
Includes all taxes and carrier-imposed fees
$5,437.27View DetailsPassenger
Base Fare
$4,251.00
Taxes $1,133.27
Carrier-imposed fees $53.00
Total (all passengers) $5,437.27************************************************
Still, quite a bargain, and I think I've found a good positioning award (by today's standard) as far as Doha, then will purchase a flight to CAI. Haven't decided on that part yet.
Your trip total
Price for all passengersIncludes all taxes and carrier-imposed fees
$5,437.27View DetailsPassenger
Base Fare
$4,251.00
Taxes $1,133.27
Carrier-imposed fees $53.00
Total (all passengers) $5,437.27************************************************
Still, quite a bargain, and I think I've found a good positioning award (by today's standard) as far as Doha, then will purchase a flight to CAI. Haven't decided on that part yet.
Feb 28, 2023 | 11:25 pm
#1181
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 9,124
Yes, it can happen! AA's RTW desk was a pleasure to work with. I wish I had asked for the agent's name. She thanked me for doing my homework and kiddingly asked if I'd like to work for the RTW dept. After verifying all flights, fixing a couple glitches, she told me to hold while she pulled up the base fare and expressed surprise at the ~$4200 cost. "No wonder you are starting in Cairo." Brace yourself though, taxes and fees, mostly taxes, were a surprise. I was expecting 10-15%. I've attached the details here
Includes all taxes and carrier-imposed fees
$5,437.27View DetailsPassenger
Base Fare
$4,251.00
Taxes $1,133.27
Carrier-imposed fees $53.00
Total (all passengers) $5,437.27************************************************
Still, quite a bargain, and I think I've found a good positioning award (by today's standard) as far as Doha, then will purchase a flight to CAI. Haven't decided on that part yet.
Your trip total
Price for all passengersIncludes all taxes and carrier-imposed fees
$5,437.27View DetailsPassenger
Base Fare
$4,251.00
Taxes $1,133.27
Carrier-imposed fees $53.00
Total (all passengers) $5,437.27************************************************
Still, quite a bargain, and I think I've found a good positioning award (by today's standard) as far as Doha, then will purchase a flight to CAI. Haven't decided on that part yet.
Mar 4, 2023 | 3:35 pm
#1182
Join Date: Nov 2017
Programs: BAEC
Posts: 42
Routing check - pls can someone help?
Hi,
Planning a DONE5 (or is this DONE6?) ex CAI. Ideally I want to go to LHR to start then on to SIN, back to LHR and then RTW eastbound. I suspect this isn't permitted in the rules but wanted to check. Here's what I'd like to do;
CAI-LHR-DOH-SIN-DOH-LHR-PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK-MIA-GIG-LHR-DOH
Planning a DONE5 (or is this DONE6?) ex CAI. Ideally I want to go to LHR to start then on to SIN, back to LHR and then RTW eastbound. I suspect this isn't permitted in the rules but wanted to check. Here's what I'd like to do;
CAI-LHR-DOH-SIN-DOH-LHR-PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK-MIA-GIG-LHR-DOH
Mar 4, 2023 | 4:09 pm
#1183
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: London
Posts: 17,013
Hi,
Planning a DONE5 (or is this DONE6?) ex CAI. Ideally I want to go to LHR to start then on to SIN, back to LHR and then RTW eastbound. I suspect this isn't permitted in the rules but wanted to check. Here's what I'd like to do;
CAI-LHR-DOH-SIN-DOH-LHR-PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK-MIA-GIG-LHR-DOH
Planning a DONE5 (or is this DONE6?) ex CAI. Ideally I want to go to LHR to start then on to SIN, back to LHR and then RTW eastbound. I suspect this isn't permitted in the rules but wanted to check. Here's what I'd like to do;
CAI-LHR-DOH-SIN-DOH-LHR-PER-SYD-SIN-TYO-HNL-LAX-JFK-MIA-GIG-LHR-DOH
Code:
E. ONLY ONE INTERCONTINENTAL DEPARTURE AND ONE INTERCONTINENTAL ARRIVAL PERMITTED IN EACH CONTINENT EXCEPT AS FOLLOWS - 1. TWO PERMITTED IN NORTH AMERICA. 2. TWO PERMITTED IN ASIA. 3. TWO PERMITTED IN EUROPE/MIDDLE EAST FOR TRAVEL TO/FROM/VIA AFRICA. IF TRAVEL IS TO/FROM EUROPE IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ITINERARY MAY NOT INCLUDE MAURITIUS/SOUTH AFRICA.
LHR-DOH is only permitted once.
Code:
I.THE SAME CITY PAIRS/SECTORS CANNOT BE FLOWN MORE THAN ONCE IN THE SAME DIRECTION
Mar 6, 2023 | 4:38 am
#1184
Join Date: Nov 2022
Location: Finland
Programs: AY+ Platinum (OWE)
Posts: 103
Hi! I'm looking for alternatives to cross the Atlantic from Europe to some destination on the US east coast or midwest on a Sunday evening with a oneworld airline.
One such flight that I have found is BA181 from LHR to EWR departing at 19:10. Are there any others?
One such flight that I have found is BA181 from LHR to EWR departing at 19:10. Are there any others?
Mar 6, 2023 | 4:45 am
#1185
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 278
The EWR one is good because it avoids the JFK hellhole. I don't know what else runs on Sunday - you can do your own searches - but try looking at BOS PHL IAD BWI or even Charlotte and Miami. Or get FlightRadar24 and look at what took off last Sunday :-)